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atomheartbevo

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  1. 6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

    You know, given the level of astonishing precision by the mussel hits on the Saudi refinery a few months ago, I wouldn’t be surprised if they shot over ‘dumb’ ballistic missiles over for a reason: show of force for domestic audience while minimizing the risk of casualties.

    Speaking of that refinery, interesting how the Saudi Patriot batteries couldn’t protect it from whatever the Iranians used.   

  2. 22 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

    Various reports on Twitter that Iran has said this it and there will me no more if US doesn't respond. Trump has an offramp. Hope he takes it.

    Judging by his tweet just now, he might.   In my mind, I was imagining that if he had an easy out, he would take it, since his staff knows this wouldn’t be good for elections in November, but I kept wondering if the reason he wasn’t responding was because he was raging over some options given to him in a PowerPoint presentation.  

  3. 38 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

    They can easily conceal it. I know for a fact they already do with friendly fire incidents. Anybody who was killed in the bombing they can just report their death as coming from an unrelated insurgent strike or attack in the coming days while maintaining no Americans died in this attack to save face. 

    When you're over there you have zero protection. Your commanding officer could put a bullet right through your fucking head and they would just tell your family you died a hero in an insurgent raid. None of your family or friends or anybody who gives a shit about you know where you're at or what you're doing so it's really easy to conceal. The only problem is other soldiers but unless they want the same thing they'll keep their fucking mouth shut

    SIR, THIS IS A HOT TOPIC.  WE DO NOT SELL YOUR “SALTY FROG GEAR” T-SHIRTS HERE, BUT I HAVE PLENTY OF PINK FLOYD, LED ZEPPELIN, AND BEATLES T-SHIRTS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SELL YOU.   

  4. 5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Trump administration couldn’t conceal dead Americans but he could conceal how they died at least for a little while.  

    There is no reason to trust anything coming out of this White House. 

    They couldn’t conceal that.  They are fucking idiots.   His administration leaks like a sieve.  

  5. Just now, lemonlime said:

    Trump administration wants dead Americans.  They are trying to drum up an excuse for war.

    That’s a great way for an epic GOP asskicking at the polls in November.   They have done a dumpster fire of a job of trying to sell Americans on a war with Iran, and all most Americans will understand is that we killed one of their top generals, so they struck back at us.    Trying to explain the dead general’s involvement in a proxy war in Iraq between the Saudis and Iranians to the average American is like trying to explain how an iPhone is designed and manufactured.   Their eyes will glaze over.   

    Americans understand that we killed an Iranian general.   Trying to explain that he was such a bad guy, that he should have been killed long before now, when Trump has had three years, and Obama and Bush had a dozen, is going to make their eyes glaze over, because they’d never heard of him before he was assassinated.   

  6. Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    It’s naive to believe there isn’t going to be dead Americans.  The Trump administration might try to conceal those loses to avoid a full confrontation but Iran isn’t going to be satisfied with just some dead Iraqis.

    Trump administration couldn’t conceal dead Americans.   

  7. 18 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

    Your kid and you should be scared shitless about the draft. We cannot sustain a war with Iran/Russia/China with the military we have now, and as this becomes more and more unpopular as the majority of Americans realize it's more politician made bullshit (and hopefully finally realize it's Republican made bullshit) the rate of voluntary enlistment will probably plummet. 

    This isn't WWII where the population is lacking information and got blind sided by a foreign nation attack. Everyone with a brain can see trump is instigating and starting this shit. 

    2 minutes ago, Junior Miller said:

    Not anytime in the immediate future but if we get locked in over there in a war and enlistment plummets then they may have no choice. Politically nobody wanted to institute it in Vietnam either but they still did because we got locked in to a position where we couldn't get out and didn't have the voluntary enlistment to cover it. 

    They will take prior service dudes like me (well, I’ve been out too long and am too old, but guys who are still in the IRR) long before a draft.  

    A draft requires Congress signing off on it.   There’s already Republicans wanting to back the truck up over this as it is.  There’s no way in hell they want to go on record as supporting a draft of their constituents’ kids.  

  8. Saw some Republican House member earlier being interview, he actually looked nervous when it came up that the American public didn’t want a war with Iran.     More early retirements from Republicans in Congress coming up?

  9. ·

    Edited by atomheartbevo

    Linda has this guys.  

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/graham-trump-on-iran-cultural-sites-not-lawful-targets

    Quote

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Iranian cultural heritage sites will not be targeted should the U.S. attack Iran amid threats by President Trump and escalating tensions between Washington and Tehran.

    "We’re not at war with the culture of the Iranian people. ... The cultural sites are not targets under law ... unless they have been weaponized," Graham told reporters Monday while discussing a possible Senate trial in ongoing impeachment efforts by congressional Democrats.

    Graham said he urged Trump to not target cultural or religious sites during a conversation, saying it would "undercut what we're trying to do," according to The Hill.

     

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    Edited by atomheartbevo

    10 minutes ago, Xian said:

    What the fuck is Iran thinking. They are painting a mad man with the power of the US military in the corner. No way we don’t launch strikes back now.   I was hoping they would have enough survival instinct to known better.  Guess I was wrong. 

    nothing but pointless deaths. 

    Would you prefer they take out one of our top generals?  Because that’s what we did to them.    Anybody who didn’t think they wouldn’t retaliate is a moron.   

  11. 58 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

    Relatively anemic and targeted Iranian response thus far - thankfully. I have no doubt we will respond with attacks aimed at the launch sites. And let's hope no American troops were hurt or killed.  

    I was expecting some missiles in the Gulf at first, but this makes more sense - gauge US reaction.

  12. 30 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

    Mine has self-cleansed.  The majority of the Trumpkins no longer post anything political.  We'll see if it ramps up during election season.  They're back to posting pics of their dogs and what their kids are up to.  

    I like keeping them around just to see what's going on in their heads.  The last week or so has included a lot of "Dems hate 'Murca cause they love Iranian generals!!" and other such genuine frontier gibberish.

    Mine that were reaching Linda Graham levels of fellating Trump are strangely silent these days.   Maybe they aren’t compromised.   

  13. 14 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    I'm not sure Tucker knows how to tie his own shoes. 

    He occasionally exhibits enough self-awareness to make me think he’s not really buying into the whole thing, but’s he gonna ride the gravy train until the wheels come off.  

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    Edited by atomheartbevo

    1 hour ago, Lobo said:

    It reminds me of Ivanka's ass from behind.  With my tongue being the shuttle.....

    I'm glad we're going to Make Space Great Again.  Space has had it too easy, just sitting there in an empty vacuum doing nothing.

    1 hour ago, Lobo said:

    That may not be the official Space Force isignia/emblem, maybe that's how they're getting around it.  Or considering who we're talking about, it's completely illegal, somebody warned him, and he just doesn't give a shit.  I'm sure his logic is, "I invented Space Force, so I can use something from my big brain on my big hats."  

    25 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    So it's now 2020.  Are we still on track to go to the moon by 2024?  LMAO.

    If the logo is anything to judge it by, we are back to space shuttles.   You know, the program that saw a significant chunk of them destroyed, killing 14 astronauts among the way.  

    Unless it’s supposed to be the Air Forces mini-space shuttle that orbits for 500 or so days at a time.  

  15. 34 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

    Yeah. Fox News seems to be in crisis.  Previously the true conservatives and the trumpkins seemed in lock step. Now they’re arguing.

    when soldiers start dying, it’s going to get worse.

    Few things:  Runs counter to the ending endless wars the Republicans pretend to care about.  Could seriously hurt plenty of Americans’ bank accounts, not to mention American companies.  Who knows what all international financial interest the Murdochs have.   Could easily lead to massive losses at the election booth in November.  

    The elephant in the room that ties all of that together, is that idiots on various Fox News shows are encouraging Trump to do this shit. If Trump keeps feeding off of those idiots and gets us in a war, and American troops start dying in large numbers, and Republicans get their asses kicked at the polls in November, there’s going to be a lot of anger at Fox News from the BMD-types, corporate advertisers, a shit-ton of people who push to boycott FNC advertisers, etc..  

    This isn’t 2003 where all of the media outlets were sucking off the White House over being embedded during the Iraq invasion.   Fox News is going this one alone, and the Murdochs know who will be blamed.   People like Tucker know what this will do at the polls in November.  

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