Posts posted by atomheartbevo
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1 hour ago, Tuco said:
In this particular case, it's because no one has any fucking idea what the plan is. When no one knows what is going on, it's really easy to make mistakes, and difficult for anyone to quality check it before it gets sent out. Somebody sent it, and that somebody thought it was the plan. Because it's anyone's guess what the plan is.
1 hour ago, bolverk said:All they're saying is that it was the DoD and was an unsigned draft.
Any relation to Esper's chief of staff bailing this month?
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/477002-espers-chief-of-staff-to-depart-at-end-of-january
This whole thing sounds like Trump said "fuck it, pull them out", and so shit rolled downhill to that Marine General, and then somebody at the DOD had a panic attack and wanted to back the truck up.
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9 minutes ago, ruitxn said:
I am with you, Atom, but that was a 2008 electorate. When I see all of the idiocy around this country today, I don’t have a lot of confidence with 2020 voters.
Oh, they’ll bite the pillow, errr pay much higher gas and shipping prices, sure.
But we don’t have to sway many.
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2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:
Stop saying Biden is the 'most electable'. Trump will run rings round him
Did we learn nothing from 2016? Trump is savagely effective at destroying establishment politicians – and Biden would lose
Hillary Clinton had decades of baggage, Benghazi, etc. and she had decades of Rush and Fox News going after her in a way that is not even close to Biden.
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7 hours ago, BradInATX said:
The perfect way to combat the last four years of the government bleeding the middle class to enrich the already-rich is to let a billionaire buy himself into contention.
Go Bloomberg go! USA USAIt would cause a meltdown with Trump, especially if Bloomberg released his financials and implied Trump was scared to match tax returns. Iran would end up getting nuked.
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3 hours ago, Goredho said:
The GOP has a contingency for catastrophic unpopularity.
Does it include subsidizing Cletus when gas prices shoot up? Once again, another area where Trump has no experience, both because he doesn’t understand the O&G industry and how important the Strait of Hormuz is, and because High gas prices have never affected his bank account.
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16 minutes ago, Goredho said:
Because the party controlling the levers of power right now:
1. Has a constituency that is largely made up of the marginally intelligent, willfully ignorant and uninformed2. Has a goal other than peace and prosperity for all
And they think that if we hit Iran any more, that Iran should bow and submit, rather than fight back.
Turtle should remember - in 2008, Obama got 365 EVs and McCain 178, in large part because of Iraq. Have an unpopular President who didn’t even win the popular vote, get us in an even more disastrous more without even an excuse of WMDs and see how that goes.
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3 minutes ago, Nivek said:
You don’t understand the right lives in an information bubble. We can’t seem to give a shit about shootings in this country, and you think a bunch of dead Persians or Persian antiquities will matter?
You assume the Senate Republicans actually care what Trump's base thinks - they don't, as long as they turn out to vote.
What they care about are the folks towards the middle, in states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Arizona, Florida, Georgia, NC, etc. that could swing the White House back to the Dems, and that could put Senate seats into play.
And getting lost in the shuffle - putting local/state races into play, in a census year. when, not far down the road, more Democrats will have more power in redistricting.
There's a reason why so many Republicans are bailing on the House.
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Edited by atomheartbevo
14 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:Senate Republicans are currently parroting Russian talking points. They won't give a fuck about Iranian optics. They'll do mental gymnastics around it.
Lindsey Graham and Kennedy from LA likely have kompromat against them. They'll do whatever they're told.
Trump lost the popular vote by millions. States that went for him flipped in 2018.
It doesn't matter what Senate Republicans themselves think, it matters to them whether Trump will be an anchor around their necks, whether he will put their states into play.
Trump keeps on going out there and saying that this was 100% his doing, and that he will keep on doing what he wants.
Hell, he's out there saying Obama should have been the one to do this.
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9 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:
So for any of you who have been more recently curious about one thing. When we were there in 2014 one of the rangers was telling me that they were going to be embarking on a project to remove a number of trees from the battlefield. Normally that sounds counterintuitive for the park service to want to do, but in this case what they were endeavoring to do was to take the field back to 1863 status and try to maintain it that way. Obviously in some places, particularly the Round Tops the Confederate side of the field etc there has been a lot of growth in 150+ years. So any of you more recent visitors heard/seen if that actually went down. Seems like a pretty big research and execution project.
We visited Pea Ridge - relatives from Arkansas, Missouri, and Texas fought there, so it was weird/cool going around and seeing where their units were.
Anyways, this was around 2010, and they mentioned that they were taking the battlefield back to the way it was, or were going to, based on maps and eyewitness accounts - they pointed out several areas where trees had grown up in what had been farmland prior to the battle, and that the NPS wanted to take a bunch of the battlefields back to how they were in the 1860s.
On a side note, Pea Ridge is worth visiting if your a history buff - very well taken care, and if you're in North Texas, not that much of a drive - Vicksburg is probably closer, but there's plenty of historically-significant areas either way.
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