Posts posted by Thatguy
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2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said: There’s a poster who works in the athletic department and was on the field for the bowl game and 3 posters involved directly with NIL all saying the exact same thing and @Thatguy is still scrambling with the bullshit?
Scrambling? I've remained steadfast in my stance. Someone asked why would the coach lie. I pointed out the coach's policy on entering the portal. It's understood that you cannot receive official offers until you are in the portal, but there is our coach saying call us back if you don't get the offer you think you are worth.
The point is he is doing that to protect the program reputation. Now we all understand that is what you are supposed to do. We expect that. But make no mistake it is still a lie. Just like the coach doesn't come out and say he pushed out 12(random number) players because they weren't good enough. To protect the program.
Now I know a lot of people played sports here and a lot didn't, but coaches nowadays use playing time to force kids to drop out of their program. It's the PC era. They even do it at the high school level.
My daughter is a high school senior. She committed to play college vball the July before her junior year. That December her college coach got fired. The coaching search took a few months, but then the new coach called immediately after being hired and said she was reevaluating her needs. The previous coach had misevaluated and had a bunch of dead weight on the roster. We knew she was going to have to push someone out to make room for us because the previous coach was honest about her mistake and cryptically said the same. This season goes by and two of her scholarshipped outside hitters immediately go in the portal. She didn't tell them they no longer have a scholarship. She told them she didn't see much of a role going forward. Kids wanna play so of course they are gonna go elsewhere. I am sure no one that hopped in the portal for us was told their NIL was being taken away. I am sure every player still woulda got their money to stand on the sideline. However, if you tell a kid who had dreams of making it to the next level your role will be significantly reduced, they are going to leave 90% of the time. Money on the table or not.
That is all I am saying.
For me, this wasn't even about Parker as much as it was the amount of kids being pushed out or choosing to leave in general. We seem to be losing more than we are getting back and all it takes is an injury or two and you are ass out.
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19 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said: That's kind of my point. McDaniels needs to go tomorrow. His act is old there. What was once a young and upcoming coach, is now stale. They are behind Buffalo, NE currently. As long as Josh Allen is in Buffalo, the Dolphins in this form won't be as good. We will see how good Maye is going forward. no idea if he's a flash in the pan.
Miami will need to assess if their offensive talent you mentioned warrants going to find someone like a Darnold/Cousins who can tread water without having to tear it down. But nothing worse in the NFL than treading water with no real chance to win anything. Sort of what Dallas is doing this year. It's best to blow it up if that's the case. Not sure what the QB free agent market looks like or what the draft will hold for them.
also, there defense doesn't match their offense. If you are going to have a quick game offense that takes 12 play drives to score, you sure as shit can't pair it with a defense that can't stop the run. It takes you forever to drive the field and then you come off the field and let the opponent grind down the clock with their run game leaving you with very little drives over the course of the game. The Pats ran for 243 tonite.
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14 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said: That's kind of my point. McDaniels needs to go tomorrow. His act is old there. What was once a young and upcoming coach, is now stale. They are behind Buffalo, NE currently. As long as Josh Allen is in Buffalo, the Dolphins in this form won't be as good. We will see how good Maye is going forward. no idea if he's a flash in the pan.
Miami will need to assess if their offensive talent you mentioned warrants going to find someone like a Darnold/Cousins who can tread water without having to tear it down. But nothing worse in the NFL than treading water with no real chance to win anything. Sort of what Dallas is doing this year. It's best to blow it up if that's the case. Not sure what the QB free agent market looks like or what the draft will hold for them.
I mean, they can tread water with Ewers. They got him on the cheap. Today was tough going against The 11-5 Pats when you have a depleted roster and no line. Last week against a lesser team he was out there doing his thing. They are probably looking at it like use Ewers to rebuild and assess. Again, you got him for peanuts, and he will likely get a little better and is already serviceable. Might as well see what you got after a strong offseason.
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10 minutes ago, Darth Tron said: HAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks for the laugh. I was around for VY, and for Simms/Applewhite, and for Brown, and for Morentz, and for Peter the Great. I know just how good VY was. He's my favorite Longhorn ever. I've met him. All I am trying to say is that as of the 2004 season, Vince Young was not the player you are referencing or remembering. He was not the inevitable machine that he was in 2005. Lord knows if Arch will get there, but his trajectory is favorable and he has all the tools. Hopefully he'll keep growing.That's all I was trying to interject. Carry on.
You never know how old people are here. I mean it's a message board, so you would assume people are ancient but there are some who were too young to really be able to process what they were seeing.
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9 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said: So the Dolphins are going to bring back McDaniels and Quinn will be the starter and they hope to accomplish what exactly?
You get Waddle, Achane, and Hill back. Use your picks and free agency to shore up the line and get some help on D. You could get to 9 wins or so. But you ain't winning that division.
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8 minutes ago, Darth Tron said: In fairness, the Vince Young you remember is what Arch will be next year, timeline-wise. 2004 RS SO Vince (2025 Arch comp) got shutout by OU and barely snuck by Kansas. Next year is the season for Arch. We'll see if he turns into superman or not. I'm not saying he will be, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. Dude has every tool to go all the way.
Listen dude. I don't know if you are old enough or not so I am going to remind you. In 2005 Vince Young Led the team in rushing with over 1000 yards at 7 yards a carry as a QB and led the team in rushing TDs with 12. He also threw for over 3000 yards as well at 65% with 26 TDs. All while playing for Greg Davis. I said that to say there was nothing sophisticated about our offense. Sark's offense has layups built into it. VY's offense, everyone knew what was coming and still couldn't stop it. When we stopped fucking with him and just let him eat, he was absolutely unstoppable. Literally.
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7 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said: Dolphins aren't a serious franchise if they bring back McDaniels as coach. He makes Jason Garrett look like Vince Lombardi. Quinn's career will go nowhere if he sticks around.
But they are the Dolphins, so it makes sense for them to do that if that's true.
Yeah, watching their personnel, there isn't a name brand player out there. We are midway thru the 3rd and the Pats have 180 yards rushing. They are terrible.
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3 minutes ago, Genco said: That's it? That's your smoking gun?
Here's the question he was responding to:
"Since you lost four RBs do you expect to bring in one RB or more? And if you could talk about the risk of going after elite receivers with the three freshmen you just mentioned and Jermaine Willis coming in?"
He wasn't talking about negotiating with 2025 Texas players who had entered the portal. You've embarrassed yourself by planting your flag on retard hill with Livingstone.Instead of reconsidering your idiotic position you've decided to die on that hill with disingenuous bullshit.
Who are you? Lol
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Just now, GhostOfTomJoad said: 6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:
I thought it was known that if a player officially entered the portal (submitted paper work) Sark made it clear there was no returning to Texas. Which is how it has to be.
And you would be 100% correct. So if that is the case why is he saying this at the 18:30 mark instead of the truth, which is if you go in the portal it's over?
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5 minutes ago, TreatyOak said: College athletes were thrilled when the portal became a thing, and it has paid off for many.
However, what is interesting (and slightly funny) is that so many assumed it was all upside, except for two little icky things:1: Leaving for more playing time/money is great...if you can find a better situation. For every Joe Burrow story, there are two Tate Martells.
2: Players can come in and replace YOU
I will ask you since others haven't answered. What's Sark's policy on his players going into the portal?
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1 hour ago, Codaxx said: I know late in the season he was leading the WR corps in yards per target. You’ll argue he was the productive with his target share
Lol. Dude, Moore isn't WR1. We threw 54 balls to Wingo and schemed the passing game around him hoping he would tap into that "potential". Moore was fine in the role Sark put him in, which was basically a security blanket.
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1 hour ago, ATXhorn17 said: If Moore is starting at OSU next season, you can pencil that one in as a W. Yeesh.
Moore is a solid receiver. We just didn't utilize him. Our second most productive receiver. Last year Moore had 7 TDs to Golden's 9 with 20 less targets. We worked him in the short game and he was solid.
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2 hours ago, chainsaw said: Livingstone got more than his fair share of red zone targets (and corresponding TDs) early in the season, when the joke was that only white guys were allowed to score TDs. That is also the part of the season when we sucked the most. He made some good catches, to be sure, even after the Florida, Kentucky, and Mississippi State games. But if Bobby is right about a mid-six NIL being on the table, that's more or less the most I'd be willing to pay. I don't believe he will develop or produce more than what we'd already seen. It's really the Wisner thing all over again.
Is Livingstone's agent anyone with a respectable reputation? I don't believe you'd walk away from the spillover perks of being Arch Manning's roommate unless you're being told (wrongly) that you're leaving serious money on the table by taking a mid-six offer.
You are a receiver on the team. Early part of the season you are involved. Towards the end of the season your touches and time on the field drops. You are out of the starting rotation and are the 4th guy coming in. You can feel that. You can feel your role slipping away. You probably had a talk or two about what you can do to get on the field more. You aren't going to come in all cocky asking for 800k. It doesn't even make sense. Now it makes sense that Moore would do that, but a guy who has only played this year and a limited role at that? come on.
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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said: You can’t respond to any points I’ve made so you revert to bullshit victimization. Get fucked, P.
Dude, I've addressed everything you've said. Given you scenarios. The player himself comes out and tweets. You are just going to call anyone that has that opinion a liar. You see, when the program says its about money it turns into he said she said and the player is the one who looks like the asshole. There is no proving it one way or the other. Dude played in the bowl game. 24 hours later he is in the portal and pissed off. I was told he was informed he didn't have much a role here. You were told he wanted 800k. Bobby says he was offered mid 6 figures.
I guess RS Freshman Nate Kibble didn't like his money either huh? That's 17 kids that have now portaled out. From a blue blood that is winning with a top tier QB and one of the best DCs in the country. You check writers need to get to work.
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3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said: You think Livingstone was told he was 6th after Moore declared, and we haven’t signed anyone in the portal? You think we told him he was behind locket, French, and shitty AF mccutcheon? Our exiting depth insists he’s third. You’re making shit up out of whole cloth.
16 people didn’t enter the portal because they wanted more money. 12 dudes entered the portal because they knew they’d never have playing time worth a shit at Texas, like say Jerrick Gibson. 4 guys entered the portal because they wanted more money than we think they’re worth.
You’re on the football board, not the recruiting board. But claiming the football board as the smartest board in surly is surely a take .
Yessa massah. I is powerful glad you set me straight suh. You write the checks after all.
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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said: There are any number of explanations for how that played out. Parker could have changed his tune after the bowl game, Texas could have strung him along, etc. Ultimately it seems he thinks he's more valuable than Sark does, so it's certainly his prerogative to move on.
If a kid is told he 6 on the rotation of 4, regardless of the money you are pushing him out. You know he isn't just going to "not play". It's not even a conspiracy. It's what coaches do when they want to push people out. It's weird to me that you guys think 16 people went into the portal because they wanted more money. Lol. But I will leave y'all too it. This is why I stay off the recruiting board.
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23 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said: If you go to your boss and ask for a 50% raise (work with me here), and he laughs and says "no way in hell, you'll be lucky if you get a cost of living increase and oh by the way you're now going to be reporting to Stevens", that means you're being pushed out? I don't know the ins and outs here but if Livingstone thinks he's worth $X (maybe based on conversations with other schools) but Texas thinks he's only worth half that much, that sounds like nothing more than an employee/employer disagreement about value. Personally I think he should chase the money and figure out how to invest it, but the second part probably won't happen.
That's not how it goes. You are part of an organization that does end of year evals. Your boss calls you in for yours and explains what they think your role will be going forward. They do this shit even at the high school level fellas. It's not rocket surgery. Don't you think it's weird all the other "want more money" guys already had their talks and were in the portal? Parker plays in the bowl game and then all the sudden jumps in the portal and firs out a "it wasn't me" tweet? Connect the dots Jimmy.
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Brother, again it's not really about Parker, you get that right? It's about what we are doing to drive away players. As an employer I've had stretches where people were leaving our organization and I had to figure out why? To me Sark's short rotations and misses on talent eval are reasons why.
I get it, pre NIL and portal, when a player left he was never to be seen or heard from again and everyone was like "great call". But things are looking a little different. Our number 2 and 3 receivers jumped in the portal. That's never happened before. Our top 3 running backs. A lineman that we were grooming to replace a senior. Now we are in a position where the same dudes that fucked up the first evals, like the O-line, are in a position where they absolutely have to hit on their evals in the portal or we are in deep trouble. It just doesn't seem like we are making good moves.