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Skipper

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  1. 1 hour ago, 'stache said:

    Even if CR was an echo chamber to the left, who fucking cares? It's there for a reason. The OSU board I frequent also has a politics board and is an echo chamber almost exclusively to the right. I just avoid it and it doesn't come up in sports discussions. I also avoid the news board there too because it's the same. I still pay them for access to the members only boards because the sports conversations are worthwhile.

    This is 100% the reality although I've been shouted down when I made this point once before. The people that like sports and also like to post about politics find the site that largely suits their political flavor and then they all collectively shout down alternative viewpoints leading to the echo chamber pretty much every sports political board is.   I've never paid a dime to Fat Ketch but have had access to my buddy's account for well over a decade and sometimes for the sheer humor I'll read a thread in the cloak room and then the OB politics board on the same topic and it's pretty funny.  I don't have any problem with that in theory, but similarly, on all sports boards, because you have so many like minded individuals, the politics leak out onto other threads.   Imma is probably correct that this doesn't have anything to do with the site dying but for me personally I spend a lot less time on non sports, entertainment or food than I used to.    Probably just the reality of current culture where you essentially can't escape it and social media algorithms are also simultaneously echo chambers. 

  2. 2 minutes ago, Covri said:


    Serious question, in that thread you said 50% of the posts were CR.
     

    A. What are all these CR posts you see? Because last night and up until your post I’d only seen a couple people bitching about the CR but no real CR posts, had me confused last night and here you are repeating it this morning. Can you cite some examples?

     

    B. What does saying everything is CR actually do other than make it CR? People make jokes in the face of tragedy, that’s not CR. People point out current affairs that may contribute but that’s only CR if you make it political vs. just pointing out current environment.
     

    I’d like to hear your thought?

    Looks like they got moved to a different thread.  But if someone is talking about Trump, or any R or D public official, the post, even if just a quote, will inevitably have a partisan tone in this politically charged environment.  It's just the stupid fucking world we live in.   I don't give a shit what he or any other R or D have to say on a fast paced news thread unless it's a flat out statement of facts.  A lot of us don't care and actively try to avoid what any of those idiots say as it's fucking irrelevant to the goal of actually becoming educated on any given topic.  When I click on a thread like that in DT, I want fact aggregation and expertise aggregation (what has historically made DT great is we have experts on damn near any topic in the community) and then community discussion on same.   If I want to bitch about Trump or Kamala or similar I can go to the Cloak Room for that.  But inevitably in damn near any thread someone has to chime in on what Trump said, and someone reacts, and off we go.  Then yeah, those of us that are actively trying to avoid partisan bullshit end up bitching about the Cloak Roomers which, to your point, further dilutes the discussion.

     

  3. 18 minutes ago, immamac said:

    have opinions that are really actually just wrong, they aren't well formed, they are drive by and they are completely based on incorrect data and a very myopic point of view.

    I mean you were the one telling us Malik Murphy would be just as good as Quinn Ewers last year :)

  4. 1 hour ago, Captainant said:

     

     

    You should be complaining that the general level of discourse is in the gutter, not a bunch of Internet message board goobers 

    This is the entire fucking point dude.  There is an entire forum for this shit.  Literally a thread exactly for it.  Go circle jerk there and not on every fuckin thread on this board.

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  5. 2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

    Personally, I think the Cloak Room and, to a lesser extent, the Daily Texan, and the posters  they attract, are the cancers that are killing the site. This place used to be fun. It seldom is these days. In an attempt to recreate the past, I have excluded  both forums from my timeline. So far, so good. 

    This.  I don't like Trump either, and when I want to think about politics or get pissed off at that asshole, it's certainly not hard to seek that out.  Hell, maybe once a week I'll head over to the Cloak Room because I know whatever terrible shit that asshole and those around him are doing will be discussed at length.  But he's literally broken the fucking brain of a lot of the most frequent posters on this board.  And then those that disagree with them can't help themselves to retort back.  And yeah, I've seen it go the other way where the Trumpers get political then the libs can't help themselves.  The DCA crash thread is a perfect example.  I go to try to get actual info and news.  See the reddit post from a pilot immamac imbedded which was good info, see some info on the victims which is good info, scan for other content by pilots or others that post on this board.  There is usually great stuff on threads like that that is much better than turning on the news.  But now you have to wade through a shit ton of broken brained Cloak Roomers that can't help themselves.  Is there a way to ignore posters on every forum BUT cloak room?  I don't mind getting their take on there if that is what I'm in the mood to consume.  But, shocking I know, a lot us don't let politics consume our lives.  It's getting pretty close to the point I log on to check out the 9.95, food/travel and entertainment threads and that's it.

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  6. 1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

    Ketchum is allegedly telling people that his NIL deal is $750k-$1M. Yet another example of Ketchum not only just spewing nonsense from his fat fucking mouth, but hurting Texas in doing so. Other boards have run with it. I’m sure it will come up in the locker room asap as well. 

    People involved with Texas One clearly talk to him as he sends out periodic messages that they need more donors etc.   So if those guys talk to him, why don't they tell his fat ass to STFU speculating about NIL numbers if he ever wants any inside info.

  7. Agreed.  I didn't think it would last 18 months.  People that invest in places like that continue to just completely misunderstand the Dallas market.  They somehow assume the "trendy" Dallas stereotype is sufficient to compete and grab market share from the numerous established high end steakhouses.  I don't know a single person that ever ate there.   My steak rotation is pretty much Al B's and Del Frisco's with the occasional Nick and Sam's or Bob's (although has been 2+ years since I've been to either of those).  I'm not surprised about Morton's either.  I always assumed they somewhat relied on business lunches or weekday business happy hours/dinners from Crescent and surrounding offices our visitors staying nearby rather than 'big night out' Friday/Saturday nights (which I assume is significantly more lucrative).

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  8. 1 minute ago, futureman said:

    their defense was pretty damn good.

    Of course it was.  But there is no way Corby is leading off with that and specifically crediting Knowles (rather than, you know, the 5 star talent/new portal additions across the board giving OSU the best defensive roster in football) if it wasn't for the Knowles/OU rumors.  It was the first fucking thing he asked Klatt and specifically tied it to how great of a coach Knowles is.  It was typical OU superfan Corby doing Corby things hoping to set himself up for a big OU/Knowles segment this week.  

  9. Anyone else notice on the Joel Klatt segment this week how Corby drove discussion about how great Jim Knowles is and how he is the real reason for OSU's success, etc.?  I'm sure that had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the OU message boards are convinced they are hiring Knowles as their DC (something about fiance living in Oklahoma).  It was beyond obvious he's setting it up so he can talk about what an elite hire it is if it happens.  Corby is such a transparent douchebag.

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  10. 34 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

    Exact opposite.  I barely can watch non UT college football.  NFL is way better, imo.   That being said the horns take precedent overall, I don't lose any sleep if I miss any NFL games, but it's a better product overall.

    After quitting fantasy football (so no gambling aspect) I've barely watched any regular season NFL over past 3 years.  But I'll watch college football all day Saturday when free (and not attending a Texas game).  As one way or another a lot of the games indirectly impact Texas so you can find a rooting interest, and even those that don't, because of the fact that it's not a 'better product,' we are much more likely to get crazy endings, comebacks, etc.  Now I'll watch the NFL playoffs because I do still enjoy really good football with something on the line.  But I don't have any rooting interest and NFL fans are largely complete fucking losers (so in that sense I enjoy watching just about every team lose), so absent a good 4th quarter game when I happen to be flipping channels on a regular season Sunday, or absent flipping on a game and seeing a former Texas player playing and watching for that sole aspect, I just have better things to do (particularly after usually watching a ton of football on Saturday). 

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  11. 2 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

    None of the dynamics have changed other than college football players now get paid.  The 3 year rule is collectively bargained and not subject to antitrust laws.  Neither the NFL or the NFLPA wants teenagers in the league.  It's the same basis for the 1 year rule for the NBA.  If anything, it's a less egregious rule now than it was in Clarett's days given the current freedom and money a college star has.

    Well I hadn't read any of this before posting but apparently there was a symposium held discussing this and a recent article (even if written by idiot Dan Wolken).  Probably only a matter of time before it is challenged again by someone.

    Ohio State's Jeremiah Smith ready for NFL now, should challenge rule

     

     

  12. Smith would be a good test case for challenging the Clarett lawsuit from years back (would have to go back and re-educate myself as to how that all played out but clearly a different dynamic these days which might lead to a new avenue for a legal challenge).  He's physically gifted enough to play and make more in the NFL next year (not to mention start the clock for his 2nd contract) than anyone will realistically be able to pay in college unless someone wants to create an insane pay disparity dynamic as CTJ noted.

  13. 35 minutes ago, royiv said:

    Allegiant is one of the smallest stadiums in the NFL. That’s going to be a pricey ticket!

    We talked about this in the ticket thread, but yes, the new model of playing championship games in smallish NFL stadiums (albeit with elite amenities which I'm sure is what the big wigs in the CFP committee and administrators like) is killing the 'get in' price for fans.  Prices for ND/Ohio State were pretty crazy (believe about a $5K for shitty uppers day of game) and Atlanta seats about $6K more than Vegas I believe.

  14. 1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

    Smith put a gun to OSU’s head on signing day last year as well. He’s a more flamboyant Xavier Worthy when it comes to the NIL side of being a young star at WR. Anyone doubting his audacity isn’t paying attention. 

    I can state with certainty that a national star asking for $5M in NIL is very believable.  That doesn’t mean they’re going to get that, to be clear. As a for instance, Texas wouldn’t come anywhere close to that number for someone, but good luck at Oregon or Michigan if OSU can’t make it work, I guess. 

    In truth, even for a star like Smith, paying out to that level will create unmanageable problems inside the lockerroom. Try telling Caleb Downs that he’s not worth something similar. 

    Can't really put myself in the shoes of an individual writing 6 or 7 figure NIL checks, but I would like to think that if I just contributed that kind of $$ and was actually rewarded with a championship, I would be more likely to be content and pull back rather than double or triple down in an attempt to run it back appreciating how hard they are to win.  Of course, I guess they still have the whole MIchigan problem which might drive them just as much if not more than winning titles.

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