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Posts posted by Skipper
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10 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
first game of the series where the Deserve to Win O'meter points to the avs. so i guess the stars stole that one
https://moneypuck.com/g.htm?id=2024030163I looked at that this morning as well. I figured it swung that way slightly so wasn't surprised. Avs played a really solid 2nd and most of the 3rd. Otter made some huge saves. Not to mention the Lindell save that really stole the game. I saw the still shot of that wide open net with Otter on the ground earlier today and can't believe Avs didn't score.
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2 hours ago, Vertuzzi said:
Wouldn’t surprise me one fucking bit to watch either Dallas or Colorado choke next round.
Colorado or Dallas might "choke" to the President's trophy winner is the Vertuzziest of takes. Never change.
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The fan reaction to the goal in that slo-mo is worth a couple of extra watches!
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10 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
Do you post such things just to rile people up to get a response or do you really believe this? In what way are the stars hobbled? They're a balanced team and while missing miro and robo sucks, it doesn't mean they're hobbled. I've watched two really good teams battle hard and luckily for my fandom, the stars have prevailed. But I also realize it could be way different. This is easily the best series of the first round so far. It should be a division or even conference final, but that's a topic for a different thread
Are you not familiar with Vertuzzi? He's the quintessential Boston sports douche. He can't help it. It's in his blood. Yeah, sure, neither Colorado or the Stars "look good" and that has nothing to do with the quality of opponent. To your point, I've seen multiple analysts say this looks and feels/being played like a final with 2 elite teams (compared to the cakewalks the top of the east start out with).
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I don't disagree the Stars would prefer to keep the momentum, but extra day will also help Harley/Esa that have played a ton of minutes get some rest. I'm pretty sure Harley has had more TOI than any player on either team each of the 3 games. Granted, those 2 took 2 of the last 3 off specifically for this reason, but still, I'm guessing they welcome an extra recovery day after 3 tough games. Reminder Colorado had a ton more rest than we did to start the series (not only finishing Sunday while we had 2 more regular season games to play but also having cap/roster ability to rest more guys in any event down the stretch) so going up 2-1 in first 3 games even more impressive considering.
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Esa is playing lights out. The entire penalty kill was phenomenal tonight. Fantastic game by Jake. Rantanen did a lot of nice things throughout and started that play with the elite Marchment/Seguin finish. What a game. What a series. 2 really good hockey teams. You really can't beat this shit.
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Full Fucking Marchment experience in a few minutes of hockey LOL. I've never hated or loved a player minute to minute like this guy in any sport LOL. 2-1. LET'S FUCKING GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fucking Marchment. I'm fucking done with him
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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:
Through 8+ periods, my feeling is we are not meant to win this series.
LOL. We are down 1 goal heading to the 3rd period in a tied series in game 3. This is playoff hockey with 2 of the best teams in the league. Get a grip.
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We're fine. Outplayed them outside of the fucking ref show. Get it back in the 2nd
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Absolute fucking horseshit officiating. Unfucking real. Never should have been 4-4, phantom fucking call, and then that? Fuckin cocksuckers.
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Didn't catch any of that game. As awful as NHL scheduling is for all central time zone playoff teams, last night for Minn was worst I've ever seen. What time did the puck actually drop?
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4 minutes ago, C-Man said:
Otter got outplayed by Blackwood in Game 1.
Yep. And Otter outplayed Blackwood in game 2. Blackwood didn't really play "poorly" either in game 2. We really could have scored 6+ if he was having an off night. I think Otter would have probably liked to save 1 of those first 2 Avs goals yesterday but he also came up really clutch with some first period saves when they were rolling to keep it within reach (and then was locked in after the 3rd goal). I definitely think Otter will probably need to steal a road game with an A performance for us to win this series.
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22 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:
Show me video and I'll let you know what I think. I don't remember the play you're referring to (was switching back and forth between Avs and Nuggets last night). I don't care for flopping at all.
watch the video above at 2:09 and let me know if that's a legit penalty or if Marchment dove (again). Avs killed it off so it wasn't a huge deal, but refs need to be better about that shit.
He got pushed. Looks like he went down easy. I was at game but there was some point (3rd period I think) where there should have been a legit penalty that didn't get called. Possibly due to his rep. I'm the first to bitch about the Marchment experience with my Stars buddies. He takes way too many stupid penalties (first period resulting in MacKinnon power play goal Exhibit A), embellishes more often than most which hurts him with legit calls, and just about the time I'm ready to be completely done with him, he'll score a huge goal.
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2 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:
I'm not complaining about the refs.
You whine incessantly about called penalties you don't think should have been called but aren't complaining about the refs. Got it.
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31 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:
Yes. Didn’t see the third period and they obviously did something very different. I can’t reconcile the third period with the other periods of this game and the previous one. The other thing I can’t reconcile is that I saw on Reddit the Stars led both games handily in advanced stats. So now I’m completely confused.
If you didn't think the Stars play a solid game 1 you are letting the final result cloud your judgment. Colorado's first goal was a total fluke. Then Blackwell made a ton of great saves and we also just missed some good chances in the first and the 2nd. Then we were in the exact situation as we were in the 3rd period last night. We were down a goal and pressuring, very easily could have scored and tied it up, instead rebounds goes out for an odd man breakaway and that's the game. The 5-1 final was not indicative of how close the overall play was. It was a pretty evenly "played" game. They just had some luck and made the plays and saves that mattered. That's the thing about hockey more than any other sport. So much of the game is dictated by bounces. I mean look at the game winner last night. The rebound just sat there on the ice for Blackwell spinning which probably helped him elevate it. We were due for a bounce like that.
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I'm still pretty optimistic about Rantanen long term. The skill for a guy his size really pops even when it doesn't produce a result. I think once he gets more chemistry with his teammates the points will follow. I'm sure he would love nothing more than to have a big game in Denver. Hoping he and Duchene both can shut that crowd down this week.
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Just now, C-Man said:
Agree with most of this. But I think the Stars' struggles go back further than the most-recent 8-game losing streak. Post-Miro injury, we were snagging points and wins despite getting outplayed for long stretches of games. I think you can probably go back to when fuckhead Mark Stone hurt Miro's knee. That was probably inflection point #1. We were humming along at that point. Then, we make the questionable mega-deal to get Rantanen. The jury is still out on that one in my mind but we'd better get used to him in a Stars sweater as we're married to that guy now. I wonder how things would look if we still had Stankoven instead of Rantanen, who I think can be very effective in the right situation. If you can pair him with the right talent, he can give you a ton of production. (I say that with full realization that not everybody has Nathan MacKinnon just sitting there.)
It would be amazing if we can get Miro back at some point in this series. Of course the Avs are likely to get Landeskog back but he hasn't played in a game since the Avs hoisted the Cup back in 2022. It will probably take him far longer to shake the rust and get back into the swing of playing high-intensity playoff hockey.
Oh for sure. We played like shit most of that 7 game win streak leading up to the losing streak and a few games before that. I think it was a combination of a condensed schedule + pretty much being locked into playoff seeding. I mean after that loss @ Winnipeg early part of March it was going to be damn near impossible to catch them and only got close because of a bunch of lucky wins. But whatever it was, I do think the team flipped the switch and I wasn't sure they could. That doesn't necessarily mean I think we are winning this series. I still favor the Avs unless Miro can somehow get back soon and fall right back into form. But I legitimately thought we might have to flat out steal games maximizing on scoring chances + elite goaltending while being completely outplayed (much like several games during that win streak). We have absolutely held our own so far.
As for Rantanen - I don't think we can really evaluate until next year. He's clearly still trying to find his role. Hopefully he can come up with some big moments for us. I felt like the top line with Rantonen/Robertson/Hintz were starting to figure it out a bit and then of course we lose Robertson. Speaking of, definitely missing Robo this series. From ice level, it seems like numerous times there is space and we just need an accurate shot. I could be off but feel like this is the kind of goalie Robo would get to. Oh well, nothing we can do about that now. Need to keep elevating the puck.
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23 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
so you admit to missing the Stars best play of the series and in weeks and you're still concluding they suck?
This. Maybe hold off on your hot sports opinions if you only watched half of a playoff game. I don't know if the losing streak (or play before the streak) just broke a lot of our fanbase or what but that isn't the same team we've seen the last 2 nights. Let's put things in perspective. The Avs are a Stanley Cup Favorite, favorite to win this series and we were home dogs both Saturday and Monday. Without Heiskanen, not only our best player but most important player, we are at a talent and schematic disadvantage against this Avs team. Yet we played a solid game 1 despite outcome (analytics say we outplayed them in game 1 but just didn't get the bounces and didn't finish) and after the first 10 minutes last night we thoroughly outplayed them. Again, the Avs are a really damn good team. I think they are definitely better than last year and it was hard to put them away then when we had both Tanev and Heiskanen. I was concerned our play from the last month would carry over into the playoffs but that obviously hasn't been the case (despite the final score in game 1). So personally, I'm far more optimistic now than I was before the series started despite losing home ice. Avs still rightful favorites but they have to be a little concerned they haven't dominated play so far with the Heiskanen wild card in play for the 2nd half of the series.
I'll say this, Harley is turning into a flat out top tier defender before our eyes. He played 28 minutes Saturday and 36 last night. We need Miro back because I don't think he can carry that load all series but his future is really bright. Really liked what I saw out of old guys Benn/Seguin/Dadonov and 4th line. We really need more out of Duchene, Johnston and Rantanen. Miko played a ton last night but still just doesn't seem comfortable on O. It's like he's always looking to make the perfect pass. I'm sure he's going to connect on one at some point, but we need him to just say fuck it and try to get pucks on the net. I feel like the team overall took that approach as the game played on and that is the way we're going to beat these guys. There just isn't enough space in playoff hockey against this team to wait for the perfect play.
I'm exhausted today but great night at the barn.
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Hmm. Maybe I should have debated the rules. I assumed it was allowed and just never actually happens unless MacKinnon asks for it.
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1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:
The rules allow them do to exactly what they did. Maybe tell your players to keep their sticks down?
I'm not debating the rules. I'm saying it's rich complaining about refs when you have 2 guys that get superstar treatment consistently by the refs and citing this as evidence. To be clear, 29 wasn't writhing in pain on the ice injured. He was standing and bitching to an official while his team had possession on the complete opposite end of the ice until the ref finally blew the play dead. The point is if that is literally anyone else for either team, the ref almost certainly just shrugs and tells them they didn't see it and skates back down to the action. I mean it's a side benefit of employing arguably the best player in the league. I'm jealous.
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Just now, Chewbacca said:
I'd guess that would happen with just about anyone on the ice. Or it should, anyway.
That's laughable. I don't think I've ever seen live play stopped like that well after the fact. I've seen plenty of missed high sticks where the offended player complains to the ref and they basically shrug and say they didn't see it. I don't know the broadcast view but this was all happening right in front of me. Colorado had possession and was attacking and 29 just stayed on the other end and bitched at the ref until he finally blew the whistle. I mean yes, the right call was made in the end, but I don't recall ever seeing a player call his own penalty like that.
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2 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:
On TV it was clear as day and I was very surprised it didn't get called right away. But it was a clear penalty. I guess you're mad that it wasn't called initially? They discussed the rule that allows officials to make that call after the fact on the broadcast.
I'm not debating it is technically allowed. I'm saying nobody other than MacKinnon or McDavid would actually get the superstar treatment to stop live play a good 8-10 seconds after the fact when a ref obviously didn't see it live. Because from the arena it was very clear they didn't see it and stopped play after MacKinnon lobbied for it at length while play was continuing on opposite side of the ice.
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Just now, Chewbacca said:
Lol. Are you claiming MacKinnon didn't take a high stick to the fact that bloodied his nose? Rules allow officials to review if it's for a double minor, just not for a 2 minute minor. That one was by the book.
Absolutely ZERO chance play is stopped to review if that were the Stars or really anyone but 29. No official saw it at all. I'm not sure what it looked like on TV but it was bizarre from the arena. If that happens to anyone else the ref shrugs, says he didn't see it, and it's just another missed call (that happens all the time).
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