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  1. 3 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

    I'm not sure "we should deport people who don't vote the way I want" is a good way to separate ourselves from the GQP.

    And ensuring that Donald Trump was elected to visit untold harm upon the poor, immigrants, people of color, LGBTQ, unions, and the disabled is?

    Because that's what I hear when I hear people say they can't vote for the Dems. Fuck all of those people.

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  2. Just now, Js1 said:

    Steve Bannon Bingo GIF

    No, no, no. You need to think of the national debt like a household with outstanding credit card balances. A SWF is the same as a household, uh, taking out a loan. Wait, that can't be right. Its actually kinda like a household finding a way to put more money aside so that in the future . . . actually this doesn't sound right at all.

    Maybe thinking of the national debt as similar to an outstanding balance on a CC was a stupid fucking analogy after all. 

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  3. On 2/3/2025 at 5:28 AM, Herbie Hancock said:

    I declare fatwa on the next fucking stooge that quotes that idiot. I’ve had him on ignore for years for a fucking reason.

    nah, he's the best source of unintentional humor we have. 

  4. 43 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    1234.   Normally this stuff is confined to the places that these types congregate and not out into the wide, wide world of the internet, because they know they’ll get mocked for being incels posting batshit stuff.

    Pimphand? Confined?

    He's been spreading his mental illness on this board for years. 

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  5. 10 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

    He never came remotely close to doing anything.  

    lol

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    In the months after the election, President Trump and Dr. Eastman helped foster those  public beliefs and encouraged state legislators to question the election results. Dr. Eastman testified before and met with “state legislators[] to advise them of their constitutional authority . . . to direct the ‘manner’ of choosing presidential electors.” President Trump also made personal appeals to state officials. On January 2, he called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to discuss allegations of election fraud. During the call, President Trump repeatedly claimed it was impossible for him to have lost the popular vote in Georgia, and repeatedly mentioned his “current margin [of] only 11,779” votes. He explained to Secretary Raffensperger that he did not care about specific fraud numbers as long as he won, “because what’s the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes[?]” When Secretary Raffensperger pushed back against these requests, the President warned of public anger and threatened criminal consequences. The President interspersed the conversation with specific fraud claims—dead people voting, absentee ballot forgeries, trucks ferrying illegal ballots, and machines stuffed with “unvoted” ballots.

    Mr. Raffensperger debunked the allegations “point by point” and explained that “the data you have is wrong;” however, President Trump still told him, “I just want to find 11,780 votes.” The next day, President Trump attempted to elevate Jeffrey Clark to Acting Attorney General, based on Mr. Clark’s statements that he would write a letter to contested states saying that the election may have been stolen and urging them to decertify electors.14 The White House Counsel described Mr. Clark’s proposed letter as a “murder-suicide pact” that would “damage everyone who touches it” and commented “we should have nothing to do with that letter.” President Trump eventually did not promote Mr. Clark after multiple high-ranking members of the Department of Justice threatened mass resignations that would leave the Department a “graveyard.”

    In the months following the election, numerous credible sources–from the President’s inner circle to agency leadership to statisticians–informed President Trump and Dr. Eastman that there was no evidence of election fraud. One week after the election, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency declared “[t]he November 3rd election [] the most secure in American history” and found “no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.” An internal Trump Campaign memo concluded in November that fraud claims related to Dominion voting machines were baseless. In early December, Attorney General Barr publicly stated there was no evidence of fraud, and on December 27, Deputy Attorney General Donoghue privately told President Trump that after “dozens of investigations, hundreds of interviews,” the Department of Justice had concluded that “the major allegations [of election fraud] are not supported by the evidence developed.”  Still, President Trump repeatedly urged that “the Department [of Justice] should publicly say that the election is corrupt or suspect or not reliable.”

    By early January, more than sixty court cases alleging fraud had been dismissed for lack of evidence or lack of standing.21 2. Plan to disrupt electoral count In response to alleged fraud, Dr. Eastman researched and planned a strategy for President Trump to win the election. Just after Christmas, Dr. Eastman wrote a now-public twopage memo proposing that Vice President Pence refuse to count certified electoral votes from states contested by the Trump campaign: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. The memo outlines the two ways in which Dr. Eastman’s plan ensures “President Trump is re-elected.” If Vice President Pence refused to count electoral votes from all seven contested states, President Trump would win 232 votes to 222. Alternatively, if Congress claimed that a candidate could not win without reaching 270 votes, Vice President Pence could send the election to the Republican-majority House of Representatives, which would then elect President Trump. The memo emphasizes that “[t]he main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court.”

    On January 3, 2021, Dr. Eastman drafted a six-page memo expanding on his plan and analysis, which he later disclosed to the media. This memo “war gam[ed]” four potential scenarios for January 6, only some of which would lead to President Trump winning reelection. Claiming that “[t]he stakes could not be higher,” Dr. Eastman concludes his memo stating that his plan is “BOLD, Certainly. But this Election was Stolen by a strategic Democrat plan to systematically flout existing election laws for partisan advantage; we’re no longer playing by Queensbury Rules.”

    On January 4, President Trump and Dr. Eastman invited Vice President Pence, the Vice President’s counsel Greg Jacob, and the Vice President’s Chief of Staff Marc Short to the Oval Office to discuss Dr. Eastman’s memo. Dr. Eastman presented only two courses of action for the Vice President on January 6: to reject electors or delay the count. During that meeting, Vice President Pence consistently held that he did not possess the authority to carry out Dr. Eastman’s proposal. The Vice President’s counsel and chief of staff were then directed to meet separately with Dr. Eastman the next day to review materials in support of his plan. Dr. Eastman opened the meeting on January 5 bluntly: “I’m here asking you to reject the electors.” Vice President’s counsel Greg Jacob and Dr. Eastman spent the majority of the meeting in a Socratic debate on the merits of the memo’s legal arguments. Over the course of their discussion, Dr. Eastman’s focus pivoted from requesting Vice President Pence reject the electors to asking him to delay the count, which he presented as more “palatable.” Ultimately, Dr. Eastman conceded that his argument was contrary to consistent historical practice, would likely be unanimously rejected by the Supreme Court, and violated the Electoral Count Act on four separate grounds. Despite receiving pushback, President Trump and Dr. Eastman continued to urge Vice President Pence to carry out the plan. At 1:00 am on January 6, President Trump tweeted, “If Vice President @Mike_Pence comes through for us, we will win the Presidency . . . Mike can send it back!”

    At 8:17 a.m., the President tweeted again, “States want to correct their votes . . . All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!”41 Following his tweets, President Trump placed two calls to Vice President Pence directly. After not being able to connect with the Vice President around 9:00 am, they spoke at approximately 11:20 am.42 Vice President Pence’s National Security Advisor, General Keith Kellogg, Jr., was present and described President Trump as berating the Vice President for “not [being] tough enough to make the call” to delay or reject electoral votes.43

    Imagine believing that the guy who did all of the above presents "no danger" and will not attempt to hold onto power. Just mind boggling stuff.

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  6. 3 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

    That's just gaslighting both from Trump and the media trying to stir up fear & engagement amongst their audience.   The only one of any remote concern is Trump going the VP route but even that is a ridiculous stretch.

    Maybe you were sleeping in 2020, but he spent 3 months trying to steal the election. Does that ring a bell? Does that one not count because he failed?

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  7. 5 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

    I wonder if they'll end up doing stuff like they've done in Colorado during high wind events. They just cut power in high fire danger areas until the conditions clear.

    They were doing that in Altadena and Pasadena before the Eaton fire. My buddy brought a bunch of steaks over to put in my fridge as they cut power to his neighborhood hours before the wind really started to pick up. It's actually looking like the power was inadvertently left on in some regions. I read a story about a couple in North Altadena who were told to expect that their power would be cut. They were surprised to see it still on when the winds hit. Like an hour later there was some sort of explosion of sparks right at the base of a tower in the mountains near their home.

    Edit: pretty sure @Sbbruin had his cut prior to the fires 

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  8. 1 hour ago, troph said:

    CA peeps - tell me about Monterey and Pacific Grove?

    Carmel-by-the-Sea, Carmel Highlands, and Carmel Valley Village are my top 3 destinations but Carmel Valley Village is two steps up from where we currently live in Texas for fire risk. Carmel-by-the-Sea is possibly $1M-2M above our budget for what we would want. Carmel Highlands I would think is mudslide prone dunno, also the lower end is accessible but turn key is a bit too much.

    So assuming in the next 3-4 years we can't stretch to Carmel-by-the-Sea, what's Monterey and Pacific Grove like for day to day living?  anyone know?

    I can't imagine it much different weather wise and the pacific ocean right there, sunsets, succulents, mild weather, outdoor living, just not as spectacular as a few miles south... am I missing anything?

    CO is falling down the list for permanent relo, wifey is reminded she doesn't like the cold.
     

    Pacific Grove is on my short list when my kid's out of the house. Prices are surprisingly reasonable, given the location. 

    I've also got Berkeley on the list for that same reason.

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  9. 5 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

    I was not one of them. I was born in 1978.  But I get your point. MLK is viewed favorably now, but I doubt the professional protestor/crazies representing a suite of causes from the Tea Party to Hamas to Just Stop Oil to January 6th will be viewed favorably with even the most generous range of hindsight. 

    I think 2020 BLM marches and protests will be viewed mostly favorably, although I guess that depends on who ends up writing the history books.

    A sitting governor pardoning a convicted murderer because he had the "right" position, should go down as one of the darkest days in this already awful timeline.

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  10. 44 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

    No, we’re about as fucked up and divided as we were in the 60s. You think the modern-day protestor helps or exacerbates that divisiveness? Protesting Iraq and Afghanistan wars were worthy causes. I stand corrected. 

    It’s doubtful this board would deem women’s suffrage and Dr. King’s civil rights marches neither as unnecessary nor grandstanding. 

    About 2/3 of Americans had an unfavorable view of MLK in 1966, according to the Pew Research center. 

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  11. 2 hours ago, raw dog said:

    It sucks that the health of our country has become so shitty that a guy like this is seen as a viable alternative to try anything to change course.

    He's not. At least by any serious person. He's been picked because he kissed the ring and is anti-Vax, which became a pillar of the GOP platform in 2020. Nothing more, nothing less.

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  12. 4 minutes ago, SameSame said:

    They are going to scrutinize the fuck out of her career.  Every training mission, any deployments/combat missions, anyone who ever graded her for promotions better get their shit organized.   

    They might even bring up her high school PE class where she used to cut in front of the boys during dodge ball.

    also, and I'm sure they've got top men on it, was it maybe her time of the month?

    edit: oops, wrong thread

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