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oSuJeff97

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  1. We did win the Big 12 that year. That's what was so goddamn infuriating about putting Bama in the title game. They didn't even win their goddamn *division* and we won the Big 12 with our last game being a 44-10 beatdown of #10 Oklahoma. The argument that was used against us was "you had a worse loss" than Bama (double OT loss at Iowa State vs. loss to #1 LSU) even though we had like 5 better *wins* than they had. Of course that argument went away like the next year for Ohio State or Bama or some other blue blood that I can't remember. All of a sudden it was about "more/better wins" instead of a "worse loss." That was likely OSU's best chance to actually win a college football title in my lifetime and so of course we get fucked over.
  2. I think calling Aggy the "Auburn of the Big 12" is a pretty generous reading of where they were when the left. Aggy hadn't sniffed the Big 12 title game in more than a decade by the time they left the conference. They made the Big 12 title game in 1997 and 1998 before Stoops took over at OU and before Leach got TTU going and Miles/Gundy got OSU going. Once those three things happened, they never sniffed it again. Their last 5 years in the Big 12 their records were: 7-6, 9-4, 6-7, 4-8, 7-6 They had once decent year along with two seasons with losing records and two 7-6s. They were clearly behind OU, Texas and OSU/Tech in the Big 12 South pecking order. If we play out what happened over the next decade, it's pretty clear they would have remained the 3rd or 4th best program in the Big 12 South with OU/OSU clearly ahead of them and while Tech and Texas faded somewhat from where they were, we had Baylor ascending under Briles so there were still going to be a ton of road blocks from A&M ever sniffing a Big 12 title game in those years as well.
  3. Yeah like we all remember how the two schools that are leaving the conference have co-dominated this "conference of losers" over the past two decades... Oh wait... I just checked my notes and that doesn't seem correct at all.
  4. Yeah that's pretty big wild card. They are going to be a huge draw this year out the curiosity factor, but if he fires out a 2-10 type season that curiosity will fade.
  5. Yes the sidelines are so dangerous that zeros of players have actually been injured because of the sidelines in the past 80 years.
  6. 100% this. I remember thinking it felt like when people leave a funeral. Nobody said a word and just somberly walked out of the theater.
  7. It definitely doesn't make sense if your perspective on those programs is stuck in 1996. Thankfully the people who make the decisions about where to invest their media money don't have a perspective stuck in 1996 and it makes sense to them so that's all that really matters.
  8. Yeah with everything that has been discussed and all of the data thrown into this thread over the past years I can't believe comments like this are still being made. The data has conclusively shown that OSU has been consistently the #3 TV draw in the Big 12 after OU/Texas. It's not fucking complicated. The idea that we wouldn't be included in any kind of PAC/legacy Big 12 merger is absurd.
  9. Yep. But one area the did skew really young were the 8th Air Force pilots. I remember they covered it in that "Cold Blue" documentary that came out a while ago. The average age of the B-17 pilot and co-pilot in the 8th Air Force was something like 23-24 and the average age of the crew was like 20-21. That's wild when I think about my top priority at that age was securing booze and banging chicks while running around Stillwater.
  10. I won't fight you but I've seen this sentiment a lot over the past two decades and I think it's born from watching the movie over and over again and analyzing it to death. That movie is about seeing it for the first time in the movie theater and getting the visceral gut punch that is the Omaha landing. We've become numb to it now because it's been done over and over and over again from Black Hawk Down to Band of Brothers/Pacific, etc. The Omaha Beach scene and then the ending battle are what makes it great because we'd never seen anything like it before. Point being, nobody who walked out of a movie theater in 1998 when the credits rolled were like, "yeah the middle of that movie was kind of meh" because you were still reeling because you had just experienced ~40 minutes of the most realistic depiction of war ever put on film.
  11. Oh sure you will... I'm sure there's some 3-star Texas kid at Arkansas or Mississippi State that is already planning his revenge.
  12. I see this line of thinking brought up all the time and I've yet to have someone explain to me how it would be any different than the current status quo. Who in the Big 12, outside of OU and Texas, have *ever* pulled anything approaching an elite recruiting class? Every once in a while OSU, Baylor or TCU might pop a top 20 class, but generally all three rely on classes that are far and away 3-star classes with maybe one or two 4-star guys sprinkled in here and there. All three rely on coaching/development and have all succeeded on specifically taking the players in Texas that OU/Texas/A&M *don't* want. How exactly does that change by OU and Texas moving to the SEC?
  13. Holy shit that episode was amazing. "I'M IN OUTER SPACE... FUCK YOU LASZLO!!!"
  14. "We want to focus on football..." Good thing the football media rights deal has nothing to do with....[checks notes]... oh wait...
  15. Seems like they did put a price tag on it. $67mm (and counting).
  16. Is that the thing where they tell everyone they do it one "pure" way but are actually not doing it that way?
  17. Honestly I don't see any way for the Pac to be the #3 conference, even if Oregon and Washington stay. (Obviously that's way out the window if/when both leave for the B1G.) There just aren't enough people at all of the other schools who care enough about football to put them ahead of either the Big 12 or ACC. Oregon/Washington (from a brand/viewership standpoint) are marginally better than anything in the Big 12, but they aren't OU/Texas, so them being marginally better than the top legacy Big 12 schools isn't enough to off-set the fact pretty much all of the Big 12 fan bases are highly engaged and drive consistent viewership numbers all the way down the line, unlike the bulk of the remaining Pac schools that mostly don't care about football.
  18. I don't think so. Whoever made that chart notes that they are non-canon. And yeah it's weird to include that as a recommendation and not the actual canon Thrawn books that Zahn wrote.
  19. We have at least one P5 school on our non-conference schedule every year in between now and 2030, including home-and-homes with Arkansas, Oregon and Alabama. I think we'll be fine in the SOS department.
  20. I assume that's the case as well; likely because non-conference schedules for pretty much every sport except football is done a year in advance, not like a decade in advance. And for the record, I'm for continuing Bedlam in all sports, including football. I'm just sick to fucking death of listening to assholes try and say it's somehow OSU's fault that Bedlam is being interrupted when OU is who left the goddamn conference. It's like one spouse leaving the other and then being like, "it's kind of shitty that you don't want to hang out with me as much any more" to the one who was left.
  21. Jesus. Fuck. We're re-litigating the stupid fucking Bedlam football thing again? Facts: OU ended the Bedlam series in all sports by leaving the Big 12. The rest is he-said/she-said bullshit. Has anyone here ever happened to notice that when new non-conference series between P5 schools are scheduled it is typically done a decade or more in advance, barring like a one-off game at Jerry World or something? I don't care what the fuck anyone says, Bedlam football will return, likely some time in the mid-2030s. I'm actually looking forward to it, mostly so whiney OU people will shut the fuck up about it. It's funny how much time/effort/energy they put into complaining about not getting play a "non-rival", lol.
  22. Yeah very strong start. This show is so great. I think my favorite bit was Colin Robinson being the annoying restaurant server, lol. "Can I get that without the cheese..." "Ooooh.... I'm gonna have to ask the chef..."
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