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  1. Just now, Skipper said:

    He was speaking from a place of watching a bunch of losers take over campuses across the country.  USC just cancelled commencement because of these assholes.   Imagine just being a normal student or parent of said student and getting commencement cancelled because of this bullshit.  I don't give a damn about what side you are on.   Palestine, MAGA, BLM, whatever, protest all you want until you start interfering with everyone else just living their lives thinking your cause is more important.   I'm not opining on what actually happened.  I'm pushing back on the thought that it was a mistake to prepare for the possibility the same thing could happen at Texas that has happened elsewhere.

    Being prepared is very different than sending in an army of riot police in a highly aggressive stance before the protest even started. The response came nowhere near matching what was a peaceful assembly.
     

    I’m assuming you haven’t watched the videos, and that’s okay, but if you had you would have seen no aggression on the side of the protesters. The aggression came from one side and one side only. Video shows protest organizers wearing day glo vests issuing directions to the protesters to clear the way. The way that they were provoked by aggressive cops, I give them a ton of credit to the protesters for not escalating things. The cops arbitrarily left around 7p so there was clearly no actual threat. At that point, some protesters returned to the south lawn and assembled peacefully. Today, without the spectacle and publicity stunt, people once again peacefully assembled on the south lawn.

    I understand your viewpoint, but in my opinion, the response from UT was way out of whack and actually risked ramping up the crowd into violence which, if you’re cynical, you might think was the intended outcome to score political points in certain circles.

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  2. 33 minutes ago, Walser said:

    I've dated Jewish women for twenty years and have been to Jerusalem many times. I did not know this. Learn something new every day.

    So you have a type?

  3. 6 minutes ago, Bevo said:

     

    Curious on your thoughts outside this direct discussion - During the Civil Rights Movement there were Clansmen rallies trying to prevent colleges from integrating and trying to intimidate blacks and keep them out of universities. Later, there were racist screams on campus calling blacks names and making them feel unwanted. I assume all that hate speech was stopped. What was done to protect blacks and help the schools integrate and provide a safe and welcoming environment?

    I can tell you for fact that Jews feel uncomfortable at many colleges including UT. The fraternities and sororities at UT  have had to beef up security. Women are told to walk in groups. Most jewish organizations were grateful to Hartzel and Abbott for the protection. You stated:

    Jewish students shouldn’t be threatened or terrorized. Neither should Arab or Palestinian students. They each should be able to take public positions that make the other side uncomfortable or even angry, so long as they do so peacefully without violence, threats, or intimidation. And people who engage in violence, threats, and intimidation, should be held accountable.
    I don’t care what your cause is, I stand for that proposition. If we don’t, then we’re worthless as well.

    Where is the line drawn between uncomfortable and dangerous? From your words, I assume it is okay to make groups feel bad and unwanted and scared or angry but when is the line drawn? Is it when an individual gets hurt or injured? Is it when people bring guns and knives? Can words do it? When should we feel worthless?

    Reminder that the only student hurt or injured on campus in the current unrest is a Muslim student and his companion that were attacked leaving their Mosque. All students need to be protected. It seems like the University is doing a very good job protecting Jewish students.

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  4. Just now, Captainant said:

    Abbott and bootlickers today: putting down this protest was all about fighting antisemitism!!!

     

    When there were actual fucking neonazis marching in the streets y'all were more concerned about free speech then. 

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    They’re wearing masks!!!!!

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  5. 1 hour ago, Wiler77 said:

    I get the refund for bags arriving late, no wifi if you paid for it, etc.  That's a service the airline failed due to some incompetence on their part.

    But refunding  tickets if you're late or flight is cancelled?  Surely there is some fine print around if it's due to airline being at fault. Bad weather delays and cancels flights all the time.  I don't see how this does anything other than raise prices to cover the inevitable refunds.  Maybe I'm missing something.

    My understanding it’s only refunded if you decide to decline the alternative flights offered to you. So, for example, your flight is delayed 6 hours and you say f it, I’m not going, you would automatically get a refund to your original form of payment instead of having to go through the formal refund process and/or accept the refund as a travel credit. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, Jerry Callo said:

    Modern Buda was built on the back of the annual Wiener Dog Races.

    And we all know those backs are highly susceptible to injury.

  7. For the fiscal conservatives and tough on crime crowd, how do you feel about the waste of money and resources on a performative demonstration by law enforcement? Do you think the money and resources could have been to better use in policing the greater Austin community?

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  8. Just now, LTbear said:

    Worth noting: there is no sex in the world worth $130,000.

    It’s all relative. If you’ve got Saudi oil sheikh or Russian oligarch money, that kind of money can be found in the couch cushions of your private 747.

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  9. Calling Trump frugal is the most ridiculous thing ever. The man has the most garish taste where gold plated and things being yuge equate to classy. He’s not frugal, he’s a deadbeat welcher.

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  10. 15 minutes ago, 'stache said:

    That too, these are the same people who think the tiki torch losers chanting “The Jews Will Not Replace Us” are patriots, but “maybe don’t exterminate Palestine” is anti-Semitic and American Jews should be sooo scared of these young libruls on college campuses.

    The blatant hypocrisy is a calling card of the current brand of conservative politics.

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  11. I’m not buying that the President of the university was clueless about riot police from the state being sent in. Reading his statement reinforces to me that he knew ahead of time. This was clearly coordinated with UTPD and APD. I don’t believe for a second that DPS picked up the phone and called the chief of police at UT and said “off the record, on the QT and real hush hush we’re going to send in a bunch guys in riot gear tomorrow make sure you don’t tell anyone in administration.” The fact that the official statement is one of pure bootlicking is the icing on the cake. If he truly didn’t know, he could have said something to the effect that he’s sorry that things got escalated, yada, yada. He barely stopped short of calling DPS heroes and throwing up T&Ps for the guy that got bumped into by a journalist doing his job.

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  12. 5 minutes ago, Slacks said:

    Carlos hit an officer. 

    Accidentally bumping into someone in a crowded and chaotic situation, especially by a member of the press covering a major story, is not a crime. This photog will never be formally charged with a crime and in the meantime there are going to be a whole lot of journalists in this state pissed off at DPS. 

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  13. 2 minutes ago, blacklab said:

    It is newsworthy, it just doesn't belong in this thread

    I think the reaction you’re seeing here is in response to you nuking an entire discussion surrounding the biggest story of the day in Austin, perhaps Texas, instead of you moving the posts that you deemed off topic to a new thread. I disagree that it’s off topic, but I can see the argument and would be fine with it if you hadn’t just arbitrarily nuked a bunch of content.

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