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  1. 1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

    Like others, I feel good about Wisconsin becuase of the people in control of the state government and the new maps should galvanize voters, mostly D. But maybe I'm overly optimistic.Β Β 

    Yeah, I understand feeling that way because it lessens the chance of any hijinx. For whatever reason, though, my gut just tells me to not trust Wisconsin.

  2. 1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

    I hope I'm wrong. But we'll see.Β 

    Few people feel good about what's on the line this fall, and at the end of the day, if Trump were to win he's going to have to win states he lost in 2020. What states are the most likely?

    Wisconsin and Georgia make me the most nervous.

  3. 7 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

    My

    GA -> D to R

    NC -> R to D

    WI -> D to R

    Β 

    Final: Biden 289-249

    I haven't checked historical voting patterns yet, but I can't see GA and NC going opposite directions. I'd bet they have similar tendencies, except NC moved farther left than GA in 2008, while GA moved farther left in 2020.

  4. 1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    It’s all good, my brother. I thought my smiley emoji would convey that I was just having lighthearted fun. Swing-and-a-miss, I guess.Β 

    I've got a case of the Mondays.

  5. 1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    It’s even worse for us normal people when we’re forced into dark mode pastes. :)

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    IMG_2462.thumb.jpeg.3411cec6469c50487a5d30043ad7a8e3.jpeg

    Dark mode hurts my eyes. I don’t get the attraction. I’m not sure it’s all that its users think it is. But whatever. Do what you wanna. But we should all be vigilant about posting in plain text, imo. (If we want to include the links, we can edit our plain text posts to include them if we’re not too lazy to take the time.)

    https://www.wired.com/story/dark-mode-chrome-android-ios-science/

    For fuck's sake, I already fixed it. Refresh your fucking screen.

    And I usually am very god damned vigilant about pasting articles using plain text. As I ALREADY explained, I had repasted the text from a post I'd made in DT, not realizing that the plain text I had used in that forum would not carry over into this one.

  6. 27 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

    β€œPaste as plain text instead”

    Click that at the bottom of the text editor.Β 

    I was repasting from the DT thread (where I did do plain text from the original article). I didn't realize that it'd mess up within the Surly ecosystem. It's funny though that now those who absolutely never paste in plain text can see how ridiculous it looks to those of us who read Surly in dark mode.

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  7. Israeli Officials Believe I.C.C. Is Preparing Arrest Warrants Over War
    The officials said they believed that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israelis could be charged, and that the court was also considering warrants for Hamas leaders.

    Israeli officials increasingly believe that the International Criminal Court is preparing to issue arrest warrants for senior government officials on charges related to the conflict with Hamas, according to five Israeli and foreign officials.

    The Israeli and foreign officials also believe the court is weighing arrest warrants for leaders from Hamas.

    If the court proceeds, the Israeli officials could potentially be accused of preventing the delivery of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip and pursuing an excessively harsh response to the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, according to two of the five officials, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.

    The Israeli officials, who are worried about the potential fallout from such a case, said they believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is among those who might be named in a warrant. It is not clear who might be charged from Hamas or what crimes would be cited.

    The Israeli officials did not disclose the nature of the information that led them to be concerned about potential I.C.C. action, and the court did not comment on the matter.

    Arrest warrants from the court would probably be seen in much of the world as a humbling moral rebuke, particularly to Israel, which for months has faced international backlash over its conduct in Gaza, including from President Biden, who called it β€œover the top.”

    It could also affect Israel’s policies as the country presses its military campaign against Hamas. One of the Israeli officials said that the possibility of the court issuing arrest warrants had informed Israeli decision-making in recent weeks.

    The Israeli and foreign officials said they didn’t know what stage the process was in. Β Any warrants would require approval from a panel of judges and would not necessarily result in a trial or even the targets’ immediate arrest.

    Karim Khan, the court’s chief prosecutor, has previously confirmed that his team is investigating incidents during the war, but his office declined to comment for this article, saying that it does not β€œrespond to speculation in media reports.”

    Mr. Netanyahu’s office also would not comment, but on Friday the prime minister said on social media that any intervention by the I.C.C. β€œwould set a dangerous precedent that threatens the soldiers and officials of all democracies fighting savage terrorism and wanton aggression.”

    Mr. Netanyahu did not explain what prompted his statement, though he may have been responding to speculation about the arrest warrants in the Israeli press.

    He also said: β€œUnder my leadership, Israel will never accept any attempt by the ICC to undermine its inherent right of self-defense. The threat to seize the soldiers and officials of the Middle East’s only democracy and the world’s only Jewish state is outrageous. We will not bow to it.”

    Based in The Hague, the I.C.C. is the world’s only permanent international court with the power to prosecute individuals accused of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. The court has no police force of its own. Instead, it relies on its 124 members, which include most European countries but not Israel or the United States, to arrest those named in warrants. It cannot try defendants in absentia.

    But warrants from the court can pose obstacles to travel for officials named in them.

    The Hamas-led raid last October led to the killing of roughly 1,200 people in Israel and the abductions of some 250 others, according to Israeli officials. The subsequent war in Gaza, including heavy Israeli bombardment, has killed more than 34,000 people, according to Gazan officials, caused widespread damage to housing and infrastructure, and brought the territory to the brink of famine.

    The Israeli assault in Gaza has led the International Court of Justice, a separate court in The Hague, to hear accusations of genocide against the Israeli state and has spurred a wave of protests on college campuses in the United States.

    If the I.C.C. does issue arrest warrants, they would come with deep stigmatization, placing those named in them in the same category as foreign leaders like Omar al-Bashir, the deposed president of Sudan, and Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian president, who was the subject of a warrant last year tied to his war against Ukraine.

    The I.C.C.’s focus on individuals rather than states differentiates it from the International Court of Justice, which settles disputes between states.

    The I.C.C. judges have ruled that the court has jurisdiction over Gaza and the West Bank because the Palestinians have joined the court as the State of Palestine.

    Mr. Khan has said that his team will be investigating incidents that have occurred since Oct. 7 and that he will be β€œimpartially looking at the evidence and vindicating the rights of victims whether they are in Israel or Palestine.”

    Mr. Khan’s office has also been investigating allegations of war crimes committed during the 2014 war between Israel and Hamas; one of the officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity believes the new arrest warrants would be an extension of that investigation.

    Hamas and the Israeli military did not respond to requests for comment. The office of Yoav Gallant, the Israeli defense minister, declined to comment.

    In general, Israeli officials say that they fight according to the laws of war and that they take significant steps to protect civilians, accusing Hamas of hiding inside civilian areas and forcing Israel to pursue them there. Hamas has denied committing atrocities on Oct. 7, saying β€” despite video evidence to the contrary β€” that its fighters tried to avoid harming civilians.

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  8. Israeli Officials Believe I.C.C. Is Preparing Arrest Warrants Over War
    The officials said they believed that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israelis could be charged, and that the court was also considering warrants for Hamas leaders.

    Israeli officials increasingly believe that the International Criminal Court is preparing to issue arrest warrants for senior government officials on charges related to the conflict with Hamas, according to five Israeli and foreign officials.

    The Israeli and foreign officials also believe the court is weighing arrest warrants for leaders from Hamas.

    If the court proceeds, the Israeli officials could potentially be accused of preventing the delivery of humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip and pursuing an excessively harsh response to the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, according to two of the five officials, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter.

    The Israeli officials, who are worried about the potential fallout from such a case, said they believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is among those who might be named in a warrant. It is not clear who might be charged from Hamas or what crimes would be cited.

    The Israeli officials did not disclose the nature of the information that led them to be concerned about potential I.C.C. action, and the court did not comment on the matter.

    Arrest warrants from the court would probably be seen in much of the world as a humbling moral rebuke, particularly to Israel, which for months has faced international backlash over its conduct in Gaza, including from President Biden, who called it β€œover the top.”

    It could also affect Israel’s policies as the country presses its military campaign against Hamas. One of the Israeli officials said that the possibility of the court issuing arrest warrants had informed Israeli decision-making in recent weeks.

    The Israeli and foreign officials said they didn’t know what stage the process was in. Β Any warrants would require approval from a panel of judges and would not necessarily result in a trial or even the targets’ immediate arrest.

    Karim Khan, the court’s chief prosecutor, has previously confirmed that his team is investigating incidents during the war, but his office declined to comment for this article, saying that it does not β€œrespond to speculation in media reports.”

    Mr. Netanyahu’s office also would not comment, but on Friday the prime minister said on social media that any intervention by the I.C.C. β€œwould set a dangerous precedent that threatens the soldiers and officials of all democracies fighting savage terrorism and wanton aggression.”

    Mr. Netanyahu did not explain what prompted his statement, though he may have been responding to speculation about the arrest warrants in the Israeli press.

    He also said: β€œUnder my leadership, Israel will never accept any attempt by the ICC to undermine its inherent right of self-defense. The threat to seize the soldiers and officials of the Middle East’s only democracy and the world’s only Jewish state is outrageous. We will not bow to it.”

    Based in The Hague, the I.C.C. is the world’s only permanent international court with the power to prosecute individuals accused of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. The court has no police force of its own. Instead, it relies on its 124 members, which include most European countries but not Israel or the United States, to arrest those named in warrants. It cannot try defendants in absentia.

    But warrants from the court can pose obstacles to travel for officials named in them.

    The Hamas-led raid last October led to the killing of roughly 1,200 people in Israel and the abductions of some 250 others, according to Israeli officials. The subsequent war in Gaza, including heavy Israeli bombardment, has killed more than 34,000 people, according to Gazan officials, caused widespread damage to housing and infrastructure, and brought the territory to the brink of famine.

    The Israeli assault in Gaza has led the International Court of Justice, a separate court in The Hague, to hear accusations of genocide against the Israeli state and has spurred a wave of protests on college campuses in the United States.

    If the I.C.C. does issue arrest warrants, they would come with deep stigmatization, placing those named in them in the same category as foreign leaders like Omar al-Bashir, the deposed president of Sudan, and Vladimir V. Putin, the Russian president, who was the subject of a warrant last year tied to his war against Ukraine.

    The I.C.C.’s focus on individuals rather than states differentiates it from the International Court of Justice, which settles disputes between states.

    The I.C.C. judges have ruled that the court has jurisdiction over Gaza and the West Bank because the Palestinians have joined the court as the State of Palestine.

    Mr. Khan has said that his team will be investigating incidents that have occurred since Oct. 7 and that he will be β€œimpartially looking at the evidence and vindicating the rights of victims whether they are in Israel or Palestine.”

    Mr. Khan’s office has also been investigating allegations of war crimes committed during the 2014 war between Israel and Hamas; one of the officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity believes the new arrest warrants would be an extension of that investigation.

    Hamas and the Israeli military did not respond to requests for comment. The office of Yoav Gallant, the Israeli defense minister, declined to comment.

    In general, Israeli officials say that they fight according to the laws of war and that they take significant steps to protect civilians, accusing Hamas of hiding inside civilian areas and forcing Israel to pursue them there. Hamas has denied committing atrocities on Oct. 7, saying β€” despite video evidence to the contrary β€” that its fighters tried to avoid harming civilians.

  9. 17 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

    I think it’s funny how Trump uses β€œJunior” as an insult, and he named his kid Junior. Β 

    That's a good point, but I'm more focused on figuring out why he places an apostrophe behind the word each time he types it.

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  10. 4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    Maybe the thinking is that it’ll only get worse?

    That's the only thing I can think of.

    Also, pardon my phrasing on that question where I got the word order messed up. It should've read, "Haven't the Tories been pretty far down in the polls lately?" It seems you correctly interpreted my intent.

  11. 28 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

    Lot of rumbling on the soc that the PM is going to call a General Election on Monday. Β If that happens, the election would be June 6.

    That's surprising. I haven't looked at any polls lately, but the Tories haven't been pretty far down in them lately. If they are, why not wait for improvement and the scheduled elections?

  12. According to Doctors without Borders: "The pattern of attacks is either intentional or indicative of reckless incompetence."

    Using visual evidence and internal communications, The Times looked at six aid groups whose operations or shelters came under Israeli fire despite using the Israel Defense Forces’ deconfliction system to notify the military of their locations.

    These humanitarian organizations have a direct line to the I.D.F. and come from Western countries, including Israel’s strongest allies. Some of the locations struck had been clearly marked or located in a special humanitarian zone that Israel said was safe for civilians.

    The pattern indicates that in Israel’s battle against Hamas, not even the places with every available avenue of protection are safe from I.D.F. strikes.

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  13. 5 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

    There are also plenty interviews online with Jewish students who say they are living in fear.

    Look at what's happening in NYC.Β  Jews students have basically gone into hiding.

    You do realize the only violence related to the war that has occurred in the vicinity of UT was a Palestinian student being stabbed a couple of months ago, right?

  14. 6 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

    Nope.Β  Again.Β  I started by saying it was an overreaction by the cops, but I also think this is an overreaction by the posters on this board.

    Comparing it to fascism isn't helpful.

    In general, I think we've become a nation of pussies on both the right and left and it's infuriating to me.Β  Everything is either black or white....and I still live in a gray world.

    Several posts with timestamps on this page.

    https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/883-israel/page/138/

    Β 

  15. 20 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

    Ok, I can work with that.Β  Explain 1A in your opinion.Β  Because my understanding is that it's not absolute, and that creating a threatening environment is one of the areas not covered.Β Β 

    Explain how advocating the destruction of Israel isn't creating a threatening environment?Β  Especially Jewish students?

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    There were plenty of Jewish students watching the protest. Go to this post and see for yourself. They were not being threatened.

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  16. 3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

    Here's the video I watched...seems like a non-event.

    Make of it what you will.

    That's AFTER the cops literally shoved the students off the grass.

    I've seen zero footage showing students attempting to erect tents. They planned to hang out on the lawn and march later in the day over to the capitol building.

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