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  1. 1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

    The majority of folks here would agree with that?  Probably.

    Would a sizable chunk of folks here rationalize their way around each and every one of those principles?   Also yes (it's treason to protest for foreigners!  January 6th was fine!  The Feds have a DUTY to remove traitor leaders from power!, shit like that).

    You have to understand that a sizable plurality of Americans absolutely want an authoritarian government, and they will justify and rationalize anything and everything to support it.  Including posters here who will 1) claim that they don't, yet 2) without fail excuse/support every authoritarian act committed.

    Yeah, we’ve seen how vocal many posters have been in support of brutality perpetrated by cops and civilians against protesters, with comments in favor of cracking skulls, shootings, and running over protesters in the past. It’s by no means a stretch to imagine they’re perfectly content with bringing in the military.

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  2. What they are saying in Clown World and the Daily Texan in defense of the government agent declaring a war of occupation on California:

    "We need to protect our pure-as-the-driven-snow lady from disruptive testosterone dudes.”

     

  3. Some "red" states are on this list.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/us/la-protests-trump-marines-ice/at-least-22-states-join-california-in-its-effort-to-block-trumps-troop-deployment?smid=url-share

    At least 22 states have joined a legal brief in support of California’s request for a court order blocking President Trump’s deployment of the state’s National Guard.

    Mr. Trump has deployed nearly 5,000 National Guard troops and Marines to the Los Angeles area with members of the Guard accompanying federal immigration officers on raids across the city, an action that California officials have sought to stop with an emergency court order that would limit military troops to protecting a complex of federal buildings downtown where protesters have been gathering.

    “The president is escalating events in Los Angeles not to prevent violence, but to stoke fear and division,” said Nick Brown, the attorney general of Washington State, whose office led the filing in federal court in California of what is known as an amicus brief. “It’s a deliberate enticement to chaos.”

    “Washington State would act swiftly to protect our residents if the president did the same here,” he added.

    Gov. Gavin Newsom of California has condemned the president’s deployment of the military in Los Angeles as a “brazen abuse of power.”

    The amicus brief calls Mr. Trump’s move “unlawful, unconstitutional, and undemocratic.”

    “Since 1792, when Congress first gave the president the authority to call forth the militia in limited circumstances, the president has only ever used it as ‘a last resort,’ when a state requests help to quell an insurrection, when necessary to enforce a federal court order, or when state and local law enforcement are unable to enforce the law,” the brief said.

    Attorneys general for the following states also joined the brief: Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Wisconsin. The office of Gov. Laura Kelly of Kansas also joined.

    “We should all be shocked by President Trump’s decision to federalize and deploy California’s National Guard without the consent of California’s governor,” Charity R. Clark, the Vermont attorney general, said in a news release. “The president’s actions are illegal and un-American. Vermont proudly stands with California in fighting for the rule of law and defending states’ sovereign rights.”

    Ms. Clark called the president’s move “an unlimited claim of presidential authority” and said it could put states at risk by taking Guard members away from being on call for other emergencies, such as responding to natural disasters.

    On Thursday, Los Angeles City Attorney Hydee Feldstein Soto and her co-counsel, Democracy Defenders Fund, also filed a brief in support of California’s request to block the troop deployment.

    The filing points out a disproportionate response by the Trump Administration, noting that the number of troops sent to Los Angeles to manage protests involving about 1,000 people was nearly equivalent to the number of police for the entire city of Houston, with its population of 2 million.

    “The military’s unsought and dangerous deployment in downtown Los Angeles should not be allowed to stand,” the brief says.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/us/la-protests-trump-marines-ice/at-least-22-states-join-california-in-its-effort-to-block-trumps-troop-deployment?smid=url-share

    At least 22 states have joined a legal brief in support of California’s request for a court order blocking President Trump’s deployment of the state’s National Guard.

    Mr. Trump has deployed nearly 5,000 National Guard troops and Marines to the Los Angeles area with members of the Guard accompanying federal immigration officers on raids across the city, an action that California officials have sought to stop with an emergency court order that would limit military troops to protecting a complex of federal buildings downtown where protesters have been gathering.

    “The president is escalating events in Los Angeles not to prevent violence, but to stoke fear and division,” said Nick Brown, the attorney general of Washington State, whose office led the filing in federal court in California of what is known as an amicus brief. “It’s a deliberate enticement to chaos.”

    “Washington State would act swiftly to protect our residents if the president did the same here,” he added.

    Gov. Gavin Newsom of California has condemned the president’s deployment of the military in Los Angeles as a “brazen abuse of power.”

    The amicus brief calls Mr. Trump’s move “unlawful, unconstitutional, and undemocratic.”

    “Since 1792, when Congress first gave the president the authority to call forth the militia in limited circumstances, the president has only ever used it as ‘a last resort,’ when a state requests help to quell an insurrection, when necessary to enforce a federal court order, or when state and local law enforcement are unable to enforce the law,” the brief said.

    Attorneys general for the following states also joined the brief: Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Wisconsin. The office of Gov. Laura Kelly of Kansas also joined.

    “We should all be shocked by President Trump’s decision to federalize and deploy California’s National Guard without the consent of California’s governor,” Charity R. Clark, the Vermont attorney general, said in a news release. “The president’s actions are illegal and un-American. Vermont proudly stands with California in fighting for the rule of law and defending states’ sovereign rights.”

    Ms. Clark called the president’s move “an unlimited claim of presidential authority” and said it could put states at risk by taking Guard members away from being on call for other emergencies, such as responding to natural disasters.

    On Thursday, Los Angeles City Attorney Hydee Feldstein Soto and her co-counsel, Democracy Defenders Fund, also filed a brief in support of California’s request to block the troop deployment.

    The filing points out a disproportionate response by the Trump Administration, noting that the number of troops sent to Los Angeles to manage protests involving about 1,000 people was nearly equivalent to the number of police for the entire city of Houston, with its population of 2 million.

    “The military’s unsought and dangerous deployment in downtown Los Angeles should not be allowed to stand,” the brief says.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, immamac said:

    I'm down for whatever. Just lmk 

    I just thought it'd be helpful for folks browsing the news content of the site not to miss news/discussion about this attack, thinking this thread was about Israel & Hamas. Your site; you can make the call.

  6. 6 minutes ago, immamac said:

    There the bomb bomb bomb... bomb Iran thread. 

    That one is in the Cloak Room and was about the US possibly bombing Iran. Just change the title then to the "Israel's Catch-All Wars Thread" or something. 

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