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Royalfan5

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  1. 2 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

    The problem with leaving Twitter is the election just showed that twitter, if you can sift through the shit, is always hours and hours ahead of the news. Especially when it is local. The problem with the current view of modern media is that their own information silos hurt them in providing real timely news..

    In many ways TMZ in the 2000s was the harbinger of what Twitter is now.. There is a ton of weird shit, but they are all over breaking news that others are afraid/unwilling to report.

    At least for me the collapse of the local news aspect is what finally got me go shove off. Used to be I could find updates of random Nebraska/Kansas 6 and 8 man updates easily, but that went away this year. Otherwise most of the folks I found interesting/useful I replaced in aggregate with other sources, and after that I decided it was bad for me to spend my time gawking at assholes saying stupid shit in bad faith. 

  2. 1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

    As a Gen X'er, my entire life in my teens and 20's was getting girls.  It's what motivated me to do everything from get a car, have money, go to college, get a better job, etc.  I wanted girls or better girls.

    Now, for whatever reason, these young boys aren't motivated to get a girl.  My theory is that it's porn.  While they still may have the urges, they don't know how to talk to an actual girl.  They have a sexual and economic entitlement and when they can't get laid and see women doing better, they get angry.

    I'll be a conservative here for a second.  After porn, another factor is the lack of real father figures and as a result, you learn about "masculinity" from some dickhead on a podcast. 

    On the last note, I'll say that I was really luck that when my dad died when I was 6 months old, I had two grandfathers and a whole slew of Uncles that took it upon themselves to set mostly good examples. 

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  3. 1 minute ago, Steamboat1874 said:

    When news breaks I am Surly all of the way for my information.

    Seriously.

    I finally abandoned Twitter for the most part 3 weeks ago. (Still post some work stuff as I actually significant following for my livestock info) Being here more and a couple other places has proven far superior that it wasn’t even that hard to quit.

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  4. 13 minutes ago, Tuco said:


    My two cents:

    I think Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin are similar in Midwestern Popularism, but most notable in Minnesota. Not only do you get Walz as governor, but Jesse Ventura 20 years ago. The Dems in Minnesota are officially called DFL : “Democratic - farm - labor”. But, a lot of the same feel in parts of Iowa and Wisconsin, then lesser so as you get into Nebraska, Kansas…

    But over the last 30 years, national politics has preempted state politics. There used to be prolife Dems in Nebraska who could win elections. Now, there aren’t any left and they wouldn’t win elections if they did exist. The Obamacare vote doomed the last Nebraskan Senator. The “all politics is local” isn’t really true anymore in the age of syndicated talk radio and cable news.

    I think over the last 10 years you are seeing a resurgence of more progressive, common sense movements as a reaction to complete Republican dominance and overreach in places like Kansas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska. Hopefully that grows.

    George Norris was really the only guy that pulled off peoples populism in Nebraska in a big way. Of course it’s a hell of resume 

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  5. Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

    How does one go about sussing out the differences between Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, and Indiana?

    Well they call them Runza's in Nebraska, and Bierocks in Kansas. Iowa has bullshit speed limits, while Nebraska and Kansas are much more reasonable. Nebraska has better gravel roads, but shitty black tops, while Kansas is the opposite. Nebraska and Iowa are much harder drinkers in aggregate. 

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  6. 6 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    It definitely was.  Obama won the Driftless Area (and our neighboring WI and MN counties too) both times.

    The farm crisis in the 80's made a lot of farmers hate Reagan and Republicans.  These were the guys my grandpa's age (my grandpa is a 90 year old Trump loathing yellow dog Democrat).  Their sons all did really well farming and became Republicans as a result (my old man being a rare exception).  Most of the old Carter Democrat farmers have died out, and I think that was a part of Trump's rise as Boomer and old Gen X rural guys became hardcore Trumpers.

    I also think that low income/low education white people (IE white trash - I can say it because I live amongst them) didn't care about politics before Trump, and they turned out in a big way.  They're losing interest again as he's losing steam, and his win never really changed their lives.  Combine that with women overwhelmingly flipping to Harris and I can see how Iowa is making this political shift with different demographics than we saw in the past.

    One side of my family was big Farmers Union/Co-op people so they have always been pretty blue. The slide to mega co-ops hurt a lot of engagement at the local level because those local board members would work their way up to other offices. 

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  7. 1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    This is historically true, and a factor in why I chose to never leave.  I was/am extremely proud of that.

    The last decade has seen us join the rest of the states between the Rockies and Mississippi politically and it was hard not to see that as a permanent shift.  I really hope there's some of that old Iowan political weirdness kicking around.

    I'd assume the NE corner of Iowa is probably a big factor in that with the combination of what was big Union presence historically with packing and farm equipment makers plus it seemed like a lot of Irish Catholics too. 

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  8. 2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

    seems to be low yute participation compared to 2020 so far.  expected, imo.  but do we want the kids to vote, given that the olds seem to be sliding left and the trump campaign strategy is basically to get rogan bros?

    I would guess that in the absence of Covid stuff, the youth vote will go back to more day off due to lack of thinking ahead.  

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