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troph

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  1. How to help and news about dead kids and whose heads will need to roll are different topics.
  2. Multi county risk as many as a dozen, that’s 5% of the state, known risk, fatality risk, one of the highest in the country. This is a state problem to solve even before you put it in the climate change risk bucket. That’s just how low Travis and canyon were.
  3. You probably would have too even though I think your critical thinking skills are often lacking. Sorry I’m fucking pissed. It wasn’t negligence it was gross negligence. And once again we have dead fucking children and Christian leaders up and down the ranks failed us. And what do we get? Calls for days of prayer and assurance that it was our prayers that stopped the water, stopped the water? Nothing stopped the fucking water, it ravaged communities for several days. It’s not some fucking drag queen or “transgenders” it’s failed leadership up and down the ranks, AGAIN. It’s fucking infuriating. you know what else? If our leadership had a true culture of servant hood and taking responsibility and solving real problems instead of blaming people like ME then I wouldn’t go on repeat. Some body needs to say it though. They are a complete and utter failure to our kids. I’m going on a hike. PTL.
  4. Fuck it, let it be both.
  5. You’re entitled to your opinion and there can be multiple points of failure from a policy perspective but I know you well enough to know this wouldn’t have happened to you if you were the camp leader - now you mighta called local LE and their response may have been shit. But you would have been up analyzing the situation at 1230am-1am… I know I would have been. The lack of vigilance on the river bank is where this started. The local and state governments were not the fail safe they are supposed to be.
  6. My mom is house sitting for us and can’t take a pic for shit or I’d show venture point island disappearing still might later today. Terrible pics and such a great opportunity to time lapse.
  7. Again, you have 700 little girls (or boys) that close to a flood prone river and known remnants of a tropical storm parking over the hill country you are up at 1am. Weather radio, local tv, Facebook, shit man, you get that warning 3 times in 10 minutes. You wake everyone up, you call 911 and ask for help and you get shit moving. Last three feet is the camp’s fault here 100%. A cell phone wake up at 1am woulda been nice but that’s for families and RVers etc, you have 700 little girls entrusted to you, you are the warning system.
  8. I have no issue with Facebook rollouts it’s both and though. Reality is the state has billions in surpluses and fatality risk in the hill country from flash floods is arguably the worst in the country. Instead of solving problems and creating a robust warning system for the hill country, the state is busy trying to exile the bad evil trannies. We know it’s working we know they can do things they set their minds too but nah, welfare of the people isn’t important. instead these assholes cosplay with Boy Scout uniforms at press conferences, congratulate each other, cover up facts, and call for days of prayer. They mislead and mistreat the good people that they have under their spell. It’s fucking gross.
  9. Because we had a weather thread, the weather event is over and now we have morphed this into a girls are dead thread. They aren’t the same.
  10. I remain steadfast in my view that if I knew there were the remnants of a tropical system over the hill country and a possible flood event likely while casually observing from fucking Mexico, then the camp is 100% responsible. that said, our fucking state government is insulting good honest people who have been hoodwinked by them with their self fellating, sitting around in disaster uniforms and Boy Scout looking - be prepared shirts, and day of prayers nonsense. We are running billions in surpluses and we have a known fatality risk - one of the highest in the nation - in the flash flood prone hill country. This is exactly the kinds of problems state governments and legislatures are supposed to focus on and solve for. How we don’t have a robust and redundant warning system in place is beyond me. but hey at least the resident tranny is in Mexico scouting out exile communities she may be forced to flee too. at least that’s a win amirite?
  11. Travis up 18, not sure the inflows but I believe dams upstream still open. I bet most of Hamilton, cow and big sandy creeks have pushed their water in already.
  12. Can we split the tragedy from the ongoing weather thread now please?
  13. Cbs Austin forecast and if you rewatch he says tropical storm that’s going to move slowly over the hill country and could drop tremendous amounts of rain. The future radar even shows rotation. People just flat out ignored this. Across the board. Heads need to fucking roll.
  14. 2018, over 20 feet in 24 hours.
  15. So you rely on Texas and local government to tell you to be vigilant? the camp knew or should have known remnants of a tropical storm was causing the rain, NWS issued watches and warnings and their camp was dangerously close to the river. That alone is enough to be extra cautious. They didn’t need the state or locals for that part, they just didn’t. And Texas and Kerr county need to do better.
  16. Those are fair points but personal responsibility first. My ass would be up watching the weather. I mean I’m in San Miguel fucking Mexico and I’m watching the centex weather. Absolutely no excuse for the camp’s failure BEFORE any blame goes to the government. They were goners around sun down last night if not sooner.
  17. It’s about time to move the tragedy / news part off the weather geek out thread too. Edit - I think that’s what you’re saying. I agree.
  18. I said both are responsible but when you have custody of kids the buck stops with you - unless you need local resources once you alert local government of your need.
  19. Are you kidding ? A flood prone river with cabins literally feet from the banks. If I owned that camp I’d take EVERY rain event seriously and I’d be up making sure those campers were safe. Government is the fail safe and should come in to help but management and ownership did NOTHING until it was too late. They didn’t wake them up, they didn’t call first responders asking for help, NOTHING.
  20. I agree. I’d say though that redundancy is most important when planning for emergency preparedness. Here’s how I see the responsibility: - camp ownership and management - buck stops there - no way they should have had those campers in bed asleep at 1-2am. - city and county leadership should know the vulnerable parts of the city and county and the moment government outlets rang the alarm bell city and county resources - as limited as they may be - needed to be activated. Get the patrol cars, fire trucks, any other vehicles out and clearing the areas. - I have no real blame for the state unless or except to the extent state representatives were mobilizing and not interacting with local leaders over night. The part about the state that pisses me off is the god almighty crap, thoughts and prayers, and if they lied about what was known and covered up negligence which I think they did.
  21. Does anybody have that news person’s rant? I went back to watch and couldn’t find it.
  22. Jesus fucking Christ. The news is a flood, dead children, leadership that can’t fucking lead from the camp management to Kerr county to the state of Texas. It’s fucking news not my team your team. all separating this part out does is keep people from confronting facts. fucking snowflakes.
  23. Kids died, politicians shit the bed. You’re damn fucking wrong. it’s germane. Kerr county, Texas and Kerrville city leaders along with camp ownership and management. It’s at the core of what’s news. Flood, death, utter incompetence. Has nothing to do with teams.
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