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  1. That kind of expenditure would be pretty hard to hide from the wife.......
  2. You got to pay if you want to own the night.
  3. As with most things, it depends how much you want to spend. PVS14 if you’re budget is unlimited. If limited, check out the ATN Binox and Binox 4k. These are digital night vision with an IR light. Probably $400 to $800. A friend of mine lent me his PVS14 which I have been using for a couple of months. The advantage of these over thermal is that they work looking through glass such as a windshield. Thermal will not work trying to look through glass. They are also dependent on how much ambient light you have around you. On a moonless night, they won’t look as good as they do when there is some moonlight. They are really badass, but I’ve had deer standing out at 100 yards that I could easily see with my thermal but they were much harder to see through the PVS14. Cool thing about thermal is the way shit just jumps out. With the PVS14, you still have to see stuff in the traditional sense Got my Flir PTS233 in today. It is built like a tank, and I think it’ll make a good monocular when I’m not using it as a scope First impression is that the Thor 4 has better picture quality, but I could never use it to double duty as a monocular because it’s much longer like a traditional scope. I’ll probably go on a hunt tomorrow and will do some side by side video which I’ll upload to YouTube for comparison purposes
  4. I'm more of an operator than a fanatic, but too late to change the thread title. One more thing on rifle mounted thermal or digital night vision. You are going to need a night vision device to scan with also. Scanning with the optic on your rifle gets real old real quick. My brothers and I bought a Flir TK Scout for around $500 (link below). If works ok out to about 100 yards for detection purposes, but the target has to be closer for identification purposes. The picture quality is pretty bad, but it works and beats the hell out of holding up a rifle to scan. I'll use this handheld to scan and then turn on my rifle optic when I see a target to look at further and eliminate if necessary. https://www.amazon.com/FLIR-Scout-Handheld-Thermal-Imager/dp/B01APT3LF6/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=flir+tk&qid=1574271971&sr=8-4
  5. Here is a good comparison of the ATN Thor 4 and the Pulsar Thermion. I think the picture quality is better on the ATN. This is assuming the settings are not off on the Pulsar....this guy seems to be slanted in favor of ATN on his other videos. The Thor 4 I got is the 384 2x8 which has an MSRP of $2499. That's the price you'll pay if you buy direct from ATN. But, you can find their scopes discounted via other authorized dealers. I got mine at sportsmansoutfitters.com for $2,049.00. And, ATN is running a $200 rebate on the Thor 4 line of thermals through 12/31/19, so the price is actually $1,849. Pretty much everywhere I look, the comparable Pulsar Thermion XM38 sells for the MSRP of $3299, and I don't see those being discounted. That's $1450 more than I paid for my Thor 4. Also, my Thor has a base magnification of 2 while the XM38 has a base magnification of 4. I would not want a base magnification of 4 because it limits your field of view and makes follow up shots a lot harder. To get a lower base magnification in a Thermion, you have to jump up to their XP38 and those are $4500. ATN has a shoddy reputation among NV geeks. I think a lot of it is based on bad customer service the past and they probably do have more issues with their scopes. The first Thor 4 I got had a faulty shutter, so I had to send it back to the seller. The replacement is operating fine so far. In buying an ATN, I'd make sure the seller has a liberal return policy and make sure you buying from an authorized seller for warranty purposes and to get the rebate. There are some good facebook pages for ATN scopes, and you can find more info there than forums. One of the ATN Thor Owners group. You can post questions there and get answers almost immediately.
  6. cabowabo

    Luke Combs

    You must be a Dan and Shay.... I mean Dan+Shay superfan.
  7. The cost of thermal, while coming down, is still pretty high as it conventional night vision (PVS14, etc). But, you can get in the game and be effective at engaging swine for $500 to $700 via digital night vision. This will involve the use of a IR light. The ATN X-Sight 4k is great, and Sightmark just came out with the Wraith a few months ago that is supposed to be good at $499. Downside to the Wraith is that it records video and no audio, whereas the X-Sight records both. My Flir PTS233 should be delivered tomorrow, and I may have to go on a nighttime mission tomorrow night. I’ll use it as a scanning/spotting scope and take any shots with my Thor 4. The MSRP of the PTS233 is $2200, but I got it for $1800 via Big Daddy Unlimited during a trial membership. We’ll see how it compares to the Thor 4, and I’ll post my thoughts upon the completion of the mission.
  8. I thought it was time that we had a dedicated night vision thread. Sure, we could discuss this in the hunting or gun owner's thread but it would just get buried in pictures of junior's first buck or Armybrat's cowboy gun pics. Those subjects really don't move the needle for serious operators such as myself. I bought my first night vision optic in June of 2018. It was an ATN X-SIght 4k 3x14. This was a great optic and I put down many a hog with it. A couple of weeks ago, I decided it was time to go thermal. I bought an ATN Thor 4 384x288 2x8 scope. ATN has a pretty shoddy reputation in the NV world, and I thought about Pulsar, but those scopes are a bit more than the ATN. While I consider myself a Surly 1%er, I just wasn't willing to spend that much. So far I have not had any issues with the scope and the picture quality is outstanding. Below is the first kill with the Thor 4. The amount of wildlife visible in the pasture is unbelievable. Upon seeing all these critters, my immediate thought was to get a 22 with a threaded barrel, a 22 can, and have my own real animal shooting gallery. That was until I saw the cute bunnies frolicking in the second video below taken in black hot. I don't think I can shoot a rabbit now, so I'll stick to pigs. So far, I prefer white hot for scanning, and will be shooting in black hot. Since picking up the Thor, I've decided that I need a handheld thermal for scanning purposes. Scanning with a rifle in just not feasible. So, I have a Flir PTS233 on order. This is actually a rifle scope, but it should work well as a handheld scanner. And I can always slap it on a rifle if my son wants to go on a mission with me. The ATN X-Sight in on Ebay. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll make you a sweet deal. So, here we go. Let's talk night vision my friends.
  9. The NFL and the owners don't owe this guy shit. He made his own bed, and he has to sleep in it now. Shut the fuck up and go flip burgers at McDonalds fuck stick.
  10. Can't wait for the OU Baylor rematch for all the marbles. The Big 12 is awesome.
  11. Showcase of Big 12 defenses here guys.
  12. Didn’t they do a farewell show for Corso like 10,years ago? It’s time Lee. Actually, it’s way past time.
  13. He ought to be done for the season for that shit.
  14. That's a hell of a collection there bro.
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