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  1. Good thoughts and question. That's part of why I was parsing it out. Transfers are skyrocketing and will impact future drafts, for sure. Regarding this group, here is what I know: -Daniels, Penix and Williams are QBs that had all kinds of options. Two followed a coach they'd played for beforehand. -Nix was viewed as a bust at Auburn. He played a lot and could never put it together. -Verse exploded in development at his first stop and could have gone anywhere once he entered the portal. FSU was on him before that after seeing him on film against a common opponent (I think Syracuse but not sure). -Latu was medically retired at UW. Do we consider Degabriel Floyd a bust for the same reason? I think opinion varies on that. -Pearsall upgraded. -Guyton and Chop Robinson - I am not sure about the backstories for either.
  2. If you read it backwards, you can clearly see that he's trying to deliver state secrets to the Soviets via this forum.
  3. I kind of fatigued towards the end of my write-up and spreadsheet work or I would have dug deeper into the WR element. It's something I've lamented on this board, particularly in terms of how WR rankings can drive up the entire rankings of a team's class. Ohio State does it every recruiting cycle under Day. WR is a flash position and I suspect recruiting rankers are drawn to them like moths to a flame, similar to QB. Who tests well at the camps and also looks amazing on tape will get ranked well, but the diva factor is a big issue there and it gets little review when the rankings are formed. Harrison Jr was ranked behind guys with more elite physical traits while being the best route runner in his class and also being a known workhorse when it comes to practice and work ethic. I find it almost comical to imagine the level of utter stupidity it would take a ranker to have conversations with both Hall and Harrison, and the people around them and their coaches, and then walk away and say "yeah, Hall has the most upside". It takes effort to pull off that blunder. Or, it takes a lack of effort and they never spoke to or considered any of the two players' backgrounds and mental makeup when putting the rankings together. If you look at other classes, 5 star WRs don't fare much better. For every JSN or Garrett Wilson, you get numerous Bru McCoy/Chris Marshall/Jadon Hazelwood/Theo Wease types.
  4. While not hashed out on this site very often, the notion that recruiting rankings don't matter is still a popular position permeating CFB discussions across the Internet and in sports bars all across the country. I am curious what the 2024 draft class might tell us regarding that and other takeaways when thinking about how the services handle their bullshit. We've only seen Round 1, but I figured some thoughts from that round alone could be interesting. I put together some simple numbers that are spoilered below as a resource. Here are a few takeaways: 1) If you want to be a high draft pick, it is an imperative to play for what will now be P4 programs or Notre Dame. Verse may or may not have been discovered when at Albany. Besides him, you have Mitchell. 30 picks started at P5 and 31 finished at P5. 2) ESPN and Rivals were consistently rating these players lower, sometimes much lower, than 247 and, when they were ranking guys, On3 (they started ranking in 2021). This isn't surprising to us, I think, but it's crazy how much credence both services are still given when they're as lazy it gets. 3) 15.6% of the 32 picks are former 5 stars. 5 stars represent less .5% of the recruiting classes each cycle. Yet again, the notion that a 5 star ranking should carry some credence is fully validated by this first round. 4) Half of the picks were 4 stars while 4 stars represent roughly 15-20% of each ranked recruiting group. Again, the "coach up them 3 stars that want to be a X University ballplayer!" is folly as a general rule. If you find yourself saying this as a fan, you'd better damned sure hope you have a coach like Jonathan Smith or Kalen Daboer developing your team, otherwise you're probably fucked. 5) One place in which the rankings are suspect is on the OL. We knew this, but it is still stark. 5 of the drafted OLs in the first round were 3 stars. 2 4 stars and 2 5 stars. The 2 4 stars were ranked in the 300s and barely reached the 4 star ranking. One of those 4 stars is Joe Alt, who ESPN and Rivals basically thought was worthless. Of the 5 stars, Latham is the highest consensus ranked player of the 32 draft picks. He was viewed as about as can't miss as there ever are. Strong recruiting work by Kyle Flood on that one. The other guy, Mims, was similar and consensus ranked #10 in the same class. In effect, even can't miss guys ... miss (Tommy Brockermeyer was consensus #6 in the same cycle as these two, also solid recruiting work by Flood in terms of signing him), but you'd like to land those and otherwise have an OL coach who knows what in the hell they are doing with raw materials when they sign them. 6) 9 transfers out of 32 picks (28%), 4 QBs, 3 DEs, 1 WR and 1 OT. Not sure if there's anything to make of that, I guess. It's a small sample size and all that, so make of it what you will. I'm curious if others have any thoughts when looking at this, however.
  5. The bad boss one with Pierce Brosnan and Will Farrell. The Sinatra Group The one where Farley is a tourist on the Japanese game show. Holy shit. If it can still be found, the one(s?) where Will Farrell plays Robert Goulet and starts crooning rap songs. Oh man. So many.
  6. You know what I meant. Unvacate their losses for that period or whatever. I was passing on what guys like Dan Patrick are saying on various shows. Most of us know what the NCAA does and doesn’t recognize. The last time I saw some idiot explain MNC on a board was like 20 years ago, good lord.
  7. Dumber take - that tweet or the Broncos taking Bo Nix? Right.
  8. I like country music. Mostly the stuff before Garth Brooks showed up and ruined it, but some later stuff too. Not liking Alan Jackson and his ilk does not equate to disliking a genre.
  9. I have no affinity for UConn. Any objective observer looks at CBB right now and thinks, "man, Hurley and UConn look like they're building a dynasty." HookEm on Surly looks at CBB right now and openly states, "Texas would have beaten UConn in the Final Four last year. Rodney Terry has Texas on the brink of greatness."
  10. Blah blah aggie this aggie that we would have won if this and that. There's no joy in flaming a sunshine-pumping dipshit. I didn't say it was wrong to have your fantasies. You just don't need to subject the rest of us to them. It's pathetic.
  11. Jerry Johnson has now entered the portal for ATM. Fisher brought him in last summer as a transfer from Rice to play back-up fullback. He never played. His dad was an assistant S&C coach at ATM until The Elk showed up and laid waste to that organization. Johnson's younger brother is Chantz Johnson, an LB they brought in for that amazing 2023 class. To my knowledge, he never sees the field either. They're now at 85 players for the fall if they do not lose any other guys (including Chantz) and do not add any additional portal players. The Elk is being praised on their board for cleaning out dead transfer portal weight from the Fisher regime. As this praise is heaped on, the entire poster base ignores or fails to grasp the similar mediocrity of The Elk's portal work as well.
  12. While will they drop you off that far away? If I hired black car service for the day, would that work any differently?
  13. I realize that LTtxfan may be too dense to follow what's going on with that unfunny attempt at creating a funny mock draft, but come on, man.
  14. Just keep that kind of stupid shit to yourself, please. That is embarrassing, idiotic, pollyanna sunshine-pumping that makes the whole board look like idiots in having it in our presence. UConn has won by double digits in every match-up they've played in the NCAA over the past two seasons. 12-0, all double digit wins, and they beat Miami by 13 fucking points in the game you're implying. It is aggie shit to claim to win games that Texas never played, especially against superior opponents. Christ.
  15. You give him too much credit. He really does believe all of his bullshit. He's dumber than a sack of bricks.
  16. Yeah, not to sniff our own farts here, but I feel like this forum has a consensus of posters who understand this premise regarding the trenches. It plays well across the board, but the rankings aren't nearly as bad as the positions expand away from the ball. You mention the aggie 2023 class and we all absolutely lampooned what they were doing with the OL during that cycle. I don't know how we could have been more accurate and how Fisher's crew could have been more wrong. The opposite of "trust the coaches", which Liucci and the aggie poster-base were absolutely parroting to each other. -Chase Bisontis: A top 100 recruit from NJ being ignored by regional powers like PSU, OSU, and Michigan. We felt he was slow-footed and bad bodied. ATM talking heads touted him as an OT. We laughed. Also, one of the aggiest looking aggies to have ever aggied. Results so far? Had one of the worst performances at OT in all of D1 last season. People posted clips of his ineptitude on Twitter to drive follower engagement because of the comedic value they created. Tried to transfer immediately, aggies just overpaid to keep him. Elko immediately moved him to guard, where he may or may not ever see the field again. -Colton Thomasson: A 6'8" 350 OG prospect that only ATM ever pushed for and the guy committed almost two years ahead of signing day. The classic aggie diehard bust. Shockingly, a 6'8" guard had some issues, the guy never cracked the depth chart and now he's in the portal, probably landing somewhere like Texas State or UTEP. -TJ Shanahan: This guy finished that class ranked as the #19 player in the nation on Rival's list. We laughed hard then and I laugh hard now. Every major program did what they could to avoid taking this guy without alienating the HS staff, UT more than anyone. Early in his recruitment, when all lists had him in the top 100 for some absurd reason, he was telling recruiting media that he was heading out of state to one of the major programs in the southeast, maybe Miami. Cristobal is a starfucker and an imbecile, but he knows OL and, despite Shanahan being really, really interested in committing, wouldn't take his commitment. Shanahan held his nose and committed to ATM. Someone good at it should find the Liucci takes on this recruitment from that cycle because when they took his commitment, the smugness in which that dipshit touted the take was both hilarious and nauseating. Results: per their gurus, the guy is "a few years away". I'm kind of surprised he isn't portaling this cycle. -Naquil Bertrand: An OT prospect that no program within his regional vicinity cared much for, and the aggies took because, hey, they needed some bodies on the OL. Never did anything and subsequently transferred with the coaching change, somehow winding up at Bama. I guess they needed a body too or something. 2 transfers, 1 completely lost former starter, and 1 guy buried on a weakly talented OL depth chart. That is the kind of shit that blows a hole through the middle of a roster. If anyone wants to be entertained, they should go back and look at that entire recruiting class. It's not been very long and you can still tell it is going to be an albatross on that program. That cycle's transfers in are also really piss poor. It's glorious.
  17. Michigan was on him hard when Harbaugh was running things. UW was on him hard when Daboer was there. Those programs had the best OLs in the last 3 years. Cal is down the street so that is ignorable. Rhule's evaluation skills are as good as anyone's. When his crew is on someone, you can rest assured that the player is fucking tough and loves football.
  18. What 11u team? We are usually at a ballpark almost every weekend. Others here have kids playing 9,10 and 11. The Bull Sharks, either Black or Blue unless they're playing on the same weekend and then he's with the Blue.
  19. The least correlated rankings to actual collegiate performance and NFL draft picks are on the OL, with IOL being worse than OTs. I look at the schools fighting over this guy versus his ranking and then compare it to someone like TJ Shanahan, the polar opposite situation, and kind of roll my eyes. Last I heard, Texas really wants this guy. I've never been a big "trust the coaches" guy when it comes to recruiting, but there's something similar that I've been following for years now when it comes specifically to the LOS. Who is Texas competing with for any of their DT, OT, C or OG targets? If the competition consists of programs and/or staffs putting guys in the NFL and regularly in the playoffs, okay, good, that's a strong sign that a low ranking can be ignored and a high ranking is confirmed. If that isn't the case, your program is heading towards late-stage Mack and could wind up careening towards Tom Herman/Derek Warehime/Herb Hand catastrophe.
  20. My son is usually picking up with the CBA Cubs 10U when we encounter their team. His normal select team is an 11U team for whom he plays up, so it's random when he's free and feels like playing "down" but he likes those kids. We also run into them in District play and I assume that will be the case this year on the 10U level.
  21. You would think. Are they too dumb to realize that? Or too full of their own feels to think that they’ll do it anyway and say “screw league rules, this is like a gentlemen’s agreement”.
  22. She’s hot in person. I see her at select ball tournaments regularly. Not like a 10 on the milf spectrum but one of several regulars who are in the 8 or higher range. We pitched Cal McNair on NIL help in the early days. He took it seriously enough to get an opinion around participating and his counsel came back that the conflict of interest was basically inherent and that it was a “no go”. That said, he’s also willing to play ball on some stuff that could be fun between the orgs and I wouldn’t be surprised to see something come to fruition on a schedule soon enough.
  23. You are an entertaining poster and the best of the pedants scampering around this site. This is a silly hill you’re trying to take with the schtick though. Their branding of that slot has been an absolute success and offends mostly no one.
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