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Brian Fantana

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  1. Yes, he has just done a great job of demonstrating the former. Need more of that everywhere.
  2. I hate to reuse material but:
  3. It is not "my opinion", though it's very cute that you're attempting to frame it that way to discredit the point. Also, no one is "affronted" that you call Hamas a terrorist organization, the point was that while you [correctly] call Hamas a terrorist organization, you handwave away terrorism committed by nation-state actors simply by the virtue of them being nation-states. Not to mention the fact that these same nation-states are the ones that get to define what is and what isn't terrorism. Convenient, isn't it? Also, you both demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of what Hezbollah is and why it exists, and completely ignored the point about the goings on in Lebanon entirely. Very nice. All that coupled with your speculation about what Mossad knew about the attack when anyone with even basic knowledge of how Israel operates would know that intelligence gathering with regard to Gaza & the West Bank and any counter-terrorism operations fall under the purview of Shin Bet. In other words, you're talking out of your ass and seemingly operating on nothing but vibes, stereotypes, and whatever you hear from Western media talking heads. It's annoying.
  4. There was no way for anyone to be confident in what would happen. These weapons had never been used in a real world operation before. Whatever they thought or didn't think about the structural stability of their facility is entirely irrelevant, moving the material was the only move to make in the face of such uncertainty.
  5. You have no idea what you are talking about. Firstly, this would not have been under Mossad's purview. Second, there are heaps of evidence that Netanyahu's government was aware of Hamas' plans and did nothing, you can probably guess why. There have been dozens of articles written about this subject just by Israeli journalists alone. How can you possibly have your head stuck this far in the sand?
  6. More than likely because they don't have the time to pay much attention to politics and just cast their vote for the guy whose name they recognize, doubly so because he doesn't have a scary brown mooslem name.
  7. You talking about Iran or Netanyahu's government? I can't tell, please be more specific.
  8. I'm still chuckling about these posts, as if Zohran didn't present a coherent message that resonates with voters. I love it when liberals try to silence progressives by falsely claiming they only care about "magic words" or pandering to "The Groups" and don't understand their insane bigotry. Hold this L.
  9. I too enjoy orientalism I quoted the wrong person, whatever it's fine
  10. Agreed, checking back is fine in that spot.
  11. Yeah I think it's fair to hate him. And he shouldn't do shit like that. I think the table talk is entertaining, though.
  12. Yeah ok buddy keep coping.
  13. I'm pretty much over the word terrorism, especially when insufferable liberals use it to describe every Islamic and/or Arab person, country, or group (or those who are sympathetic) that does something they don't like. The word basically means nothing anymore and arguably never did. Most people and/or groups that are designated terrorists are only designated such because we (the US) have insisted on it. I have been called a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer literally dozens of times on this fucking board, by insane reactionary conservatives to annoying shitlibs that seemingly get all their notes from Jake Tapper, simply because I am pro-Palestinian. A DT poster said I should be on the terror watch list yesterday. Hell, by definition, a ton of different actions taken by the United States and Israel could and should be considered terrorism. For example, orchestrating and initiating coups in sovereign countries (including, but not limited to, Iran) and our many acts of deliberate destabilization (including, but not limited to, Iran) but only aren't because they are nation states. Israel has, just since October 7th mind you, mercilessly bombed Lebanon, killing thousands of and displacing over a million civilians, and deliberately destroyed critical non-military infrastructure. I don't know what to call that besides just straight up terrorism. And since it's being perpetrated with US weapons and money, state-sponsored terrorism. Hezbollah is an active Lebanese political party with a paramilitary wing that was formed in direct response to Israeli aggression and violence. Does Lebanon have a right to defend itself? I guess not, since it is an Arab country that the US/Israel doesn't like. Pretty much everything Israel has done in Gaza in the last several decades could and should be considered terrorism. Their enforcement of apartheid measures in Israel proper and the West Bank, and the active and open sponsorship of settler violence in the West Bank are quite literally terrorism and state-sponsored terrorism. Saying they are not our proxy when they could not sustain even a single one of their aggressive campaigns without our military and financial support is laughable. You are using semantic differences in order to twist yourself into knots to not have to face the facts that there are far more similarities than you'd like to admit. Your contention is, effectively, that as long as a nation state does it, it's not terrorism. Whether or not you recognize that's what you're doing is irrelevant, it's simply reality.
  14. Weird that you're not doing a victory lap anymore like you were in the DT thread.
  15. https://news.bgov.com/bloomberg-government-news/torres-wont-run-for-ny-governor-if-socialist-elected-nyc-mayor Hey good idea, Ritchie, why don't you throw yourself off the Empire State Building while you're at it you fucking racist pussy.
  16. Yeah I mean obviously he's never going to do it but he could, easily.
  17. Easily. Threaten to stop the money and weapons spigot, and fucking mean it. Israel is incapable of sustaining a campaign against anyone without our money and weapons, period. Why do you think they threw such a shit fit and Bibi got on the first plane to America to come scold Congress when Biden threatened to reduce military aid by an effectively marginal amount last year if Israel invaded Rafah?
  18. Actually, my position on Iran has been all along that they likely wouldn't be led a regime this shitty in the first place had we not deposed their democratically elected leadership at the behest of British oil interests. I don't think I've ever once blamed Israel for the way Iran is today. Sure, they have their own agency, they could have just sat around, allowed the Pahlavi dynasty continue to brutally oppress them in perpetuity, and not done the Iranian Revolution, but is that a fair criticism? I make the same argument about Mexican drug cartels. Yes, they are horrifying monsters with plenty of agency to not be the way they are, but it's unlikely they would have had the opportunity to become as powerful and ubiquitous as they are if it weren't for the insanely idiotic American War on Drugs. Similar to how it's very unlikely that the Ayatollah could have become as powerful as he did without the pressure cooker created by the monarchy that we [re]installed in their country. Hamas is a different animal, because at its inception it appeared to be a grassroots movement in response to the perceived corruption and growing unpopularity of the PLO, heavily (and discreetly) supported by Israel, I might add. It's patently ridiculous to blame its existence or its continued existence on Iran, as well, considering we know how it was continually propped up by Israel, and even received lots of outside support from other countries at the behest of Israel. The things you continually call a "but-for" are just necessary historical context.
  19. Yeah I think I agree with all of this. Another point is that I suspect we will start hearing more rumblings about discontent within the IRGC, which would indicate a coup could be coming. There's just about no chance that regime change in that form would be favorable to us, though.
  20. I know man but that is just a really bad take that isn't in alignment with what I actually believe and you should know better. Like I have fucking family in Israel, I don't hate it, I want it to be better than it is.
  21. Yeah I'm done responding, good luck with all that buddy.
  22. Strike Set Back Iran’s Nuclear Program by Only a Few Months, U.S. Report Says - The New York Times
  23. Except that isn't what I'm doing, and now you are being disingenuous. I'm not saying "everything bad is a result of Israel and the US", we are talking about those specific groups he mentioned in his post. It is not my fault that literally all of them spun up in direct response to Israeli/US/Saudi Arabian actions. That is inarguable fact, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise to make people feel better about their support for those actions. I have never once denied that Iran provides significant material support to those groups, I am arguing that placing the blame entirely on Iran for their existence is ridiculous. Doing that is nothing more than a bullshit rationalization and is often used as a way to manufacture consent by Western media. Everyone involved holds a portion of the blame.
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