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Brian Fantana

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  1. What? No, not entirely, my point was you offered the "they hate us cuz they ain't us" take without bothering to offer any historical context at all.
  2. Yeah, what did I say about things getting worse again? I really hope this is fake. I don't want us to go to war or for any Americans do die at the behest of Israel.
  3. Point out, specifically, what I said that was wrong. I'll wait. I'm not ignoring what happened since, I'm pro regime change. What you said was still an extremely dumb rationalization that you usually only hear from people that want to manufacture consent for really awful shit.
  4. Not particularly, it's just a crazy amount of money and feels like it might be a drop in the bucket compared to what could be coming.
  5. What you said was a bullshit, whitewashed, rationalization of why Iran hates us. History matters, but not the part where we deposed their democratically elected leadership, installed an oppressive monarchy that squeezed Iranians for 26 years resulting in the Iranian Revolution that installed the extremists that now control the country, right? We should just ignore everything that happened before 1979 because it's inconvenient for your narrative.
  6. "God Bless Israel" in a POTUS address to the nation
  7. Bro, come on. You've had plenty of good takes but this is the most incredibly baby brained take on US/Iranian/Israeli relations I may have ever seen in my life.
  8. Just operating a single B2 spirit on a mission of this length without any ordinance at all would be a significant number of millions. I don't even want to think about how much this operation had to cost and how much it may cost in the long run.
  9. Lol yeah I wonder why
  10. He means people in civilized countries that don't sacrifice their citizens' health care to do shit like this at the behest of a scared little Nazi that doesn't want to go to jail.
  11. Lol wdym dude, 90% or more of the Democrats are going to do the exact same thing.
  12. Relevant article from yesterday outlining where our troops stationed in the Middle East are the most vulnerable: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5361526-us-troops-iran-middle-east/
  13. You're not thinking far enough ahead. Americans are going to die because of this. It's going to get worse. It's gotten worse every single day since Israel launched their pre-emptive strike.
  14. Agreed, I hope they take the exit but I'm beyond skeptical.
  15. Boy, you can say that again.
  16. And this is how we get another extended, expensive conflict that we definitely cannot currently afford.
  17. Thank you for your attention to this matter
  18. Yes but right now (not 30 days ago), they are protesting against Israel and the US. We're seemingly providing the regime a nice distraction in a way.
  19. Of course they could do this, they've had it before. The problem is that this happening organically would have almost no chance of resulting in a pro-Western government, which we would find completely unacceptable. Natural resources entirely aside, the idea is to have a government in place that can be controlled, which is why I suspect we want to give the country back to the Pahlavis. The people of Iran are protesting in the streets, but they are not protesting the Ayatollah, they're protesting against Israel and the US. They're not going to embrace US munitions falling from the sky as liberators. That's the pipe dream of all pipe dreams. They think we want to kill them all.
  20. You said there was no reason for the west to functionally capture Iran's natural resources, that's all I was pushing back on. Of course there are reasons.
  21. I'd bet my house that he's quoting me.
  22. Our non con so far
  23. There's always a reason. Capturing control of their natural resources is a strategically +EV play for the US and it would make a bunch of shitty rich assholes even richer. That's the point, that's always been the point of our Middle East policy and Israel serves its purpose as our attack dog to that point. I don't disagree with the points about Iran and I'd love to see the mullahs fuck off and die, like I've said many times, but we all know how it will end up in the end if the West facilitates regime change. Maybe it'll buy us another decade or two of relative stability before history inevitably repeats itself.
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