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  1. 2 hours ago, yaqdum said:

    lordy, that's good news.  have to hope this is just the break-of-the-wave moment and we'll see the young take charge.  this is the sort of broad-scale change that i've been talking about.  any ideas we've had about hope may prove to be woefully short-sighted.  as i said the other day, the wicked are beyond saving, but the youth is getting an education we didn't get.  they may redefine who we are.

    also, any who don't believe the politics in this nation is undergoing a major shift need to pay attention to what's happening with the baptists.  i don't think we are headed left except that way leads to center.

    I for one welcome our new Baptist comrades.  The best thing about Christianity is its message of love, compassion, and decency.  Hopefully more and more Christians will see the light and realize that the leaders they have supported do not stand for those same values.  It’s time to make up for those mistakes.  God will forgive, but it’s time to set things right.

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  2. 28 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Would it?

    Trump embraced Kim Jong Un, Putin, and Xi just this month.

    His supporters don’t care. In fact, they’d love to see Trump crush the “RINOs”

    His followers are a cult.  Brainless zealot imbeciles, all.  They’ll like whatever Trump tells them to like.

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  3. 11 minutes ago, F250 said:

    If he is Axiom of Choice then I would give him the benefit of the doubt. The dude engaged in conversations like a Vulcan on shaggy, which I respect.

     

     

    Same guy.  He’s Ted Cruz smart.  That is, he has a talent for constructing clever, but ultimately flawed, arguments in support of obvious bullshit.  Waste of brainpower, imo.

  4. 9 minutes ago, tchookem said:

    Agreed. I've never voted Dem in a national election, but I will be now.

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    Y’all need to start a movement.  Make it a badge of honor.  Make it something to be proud of.

    I’m not kidding.

  5. The United States in 2018 is basically a nationwide Stanford Prison Experiment, with Trump supporters playing the role of the guards.  

    We’re seeing first-hand an ugly side of human nature that’s been observed before in the lab and in real-life places like Nazi Germany.  Hardline Trump supporters may not be intrinsically evil, but it doesn’t take much to talk them into it.

  6. The more I think about it, the more I think this is akin to enlisting for a war.  My grandfather didn’t want to risk his life flying a bomber around Europe.  He didn’t want to kill anybody.  But he signed up and went to war, not knowing if he’d win or even if he’d come back alive, because it was what he needed to do to help defeat evil.  

    Well, you don’t have to risk your life to defeat evil in 2018.  You just have to vote for candidates who will stand up to Trump. You have to band together with Americans who, in more tranquil times, you might disagree with.  It’s temporary and it’s not what you’d usually do if the free world were secure, but it’s what you have to do now.

     

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  7. 3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

    Republican evangelicals need to shut the fuck up about this being a Christian nation. 

    Many religious conservatives are pretty aghast right now.  I’m as big a critic of religion as there is, but not all Christians are hypocrites.  Most truly believe in the morality they preach.  It’s one thing to look past personal indiscretions as a trade for another Gorsuch. It’s another thing to ignore child prisons and forced separation. 

    Trump is a moron and he’s pushing shit too far too fast.  He should have boiled the frog more slowly, but got impatient.  Those who saw this coming need to capitalize on his mistake.  Talk to reasonable, compassionate conservatives you know.  Tell them it’s okay to think this is wrong.  Tell them it’s okay to vote for the “other team” because we’re all on the same team now and we all share the same goal of stopping Trump before he destroys the greatest nation on Earth.

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  8. 11 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    Won't work.  The abortion debate is a manufactured political issue that is designed to be immune to moderation.  In fact, the D position is already one of moderation; the other side will say it's murder unless all abortion is banned, and any movement towards them in compromise only strengthens that premise.  

    The solution is to focus on the reality: abortion is not on the ballot; the policy is personal choice and not arresting women or doctors for making a choice. If you don't like abortions, don't have them, and use your voice to persuade women to make what you view as the right choice, but let's not arrest them. 

    That is simply not true, in my opinion.  There are hardliners.  I have no illusions about ever getting their votes.  But there are plenty of reasonable people who believe (rightly or wrongly) that Dems uniformly support an absolute right to abortion.  

    Those people will not be swayed by lectures about how their understanding of civics is mistaken and they need to get over it and vote for me despite my abortion views.  They CAN be swayed by a Democrat candidate looking them in the eye and saying “I’m with you.  Late term abortion should be illegal.  And oh, by the way, I’m also going to work to shut down those child internment camps the GOP built in Texas.  Let’s work to both protect unborn lives and the lives of children.”  

  9. 5 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

    Bans on third trimester abortions won't work. The pro-life side are True Believers. Conception, the formation of a human being, happens at fertilization according to them. They'll never get behind abortion "moderation" because it's a modern Holocaust  to them (see posters on this site and formerly on Shaggy).

    You are focusing on the extremists.  I know plenty of single-issue abortion voters who aren’t full-ban pro-lifers.

    The point is: we don’t have to win over ALL of the Trump voters.  Just some.  Find ways to do that without losing dem voters to the GOP.  That’ the key.

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  10. 4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    What is "moderation on abortion"?

    Come out openly in favor of limitations, such as band on third trimester abortions.  Advertise that.  I every speech, announce that the Democrats are extending an olive branch and offering to compromise.  Then say “we support children, which is why we stand against the detention camps Trump has built.”

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  11. Now that’s all what CANDIDATES should do. But what should we, the intelligent and internet-savvy regular joes do?  

    Start dialogues with reasonable conservatives who feel they have no choice but the GOP?

    Persuade moderates that Trump is cancer and voting straight blue is the short-term chemo we need to save the US?

    Start a meme campaign comparing Trump to the Antichrist?  (I’m shocked this doesn’t exist yet - he checks those boxes).

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  12. Dems need to drop the hardline anti-abortion thing.  The single-issue abortion block is the same group of people most likely to find Trump’s child concentration camp disgusting.  Promise moderation on abortion and gun control, and start hammering Trump on his narcissism and cruelty.

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  13. 6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    I seem to remember a million women marching the day after the inauguration in one of the best peaceful protests I’ve seen.

    We’re not as docile as we might think.

    This policy change to separate children from their parents is intended to outrage people and lead to violence.  It’s a Stephen Miller active measures special.  We’ve seen it before but not this overtly.  

    There needs to be a reckoning in the midterms.  There really is no other way.

    This is right.  So how do we do it?  How do we convince people - especially moderate conservatives and religious right types - to vote a straight blue ticket in November?  We need a thread to brainstorm on how to beat Trump and the GOP in 2020.

  14. 59 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

    Wait a sec.  if he thinks Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the world, why in the fuck would he hire to lead his campaign a guy who was neck deep in the corruption?  He's a god damned moron.

    None of his supporters pick up on this stuff.  They process each Trump statement one at a time, in each case coming to the conclusion that he’s right.  They lack either memory of his past contradictory statements or the logical circuitry necessary to compare his latest claim against his past claims.  To them, logic is unimportant.  Truth is determined by one criterion: did Trump say it?  As a result, they willingly believe all manner of mutually exclusive proposition pairs, and vacillate between defending a statement and opposing it depending on what Trump’s latest position is.

    It would be quite amusing to watch such basic neural malfunction in real time, if it weren’t for the terrifying fact that these people vote.  

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