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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:
I'm shocked that Brady and Patch aren't on that list.
Brady didn't vote at all. Here's the link (sorry, should've included it): https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/07/texans-congress-vote-electoral-college-certification/
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Here's is the definitive list of Texas representatives who voted to not certify the election:
R-1 Louie Gohmert
R-4 Pat Fallon*
R-5 Lance Gooden
R-6 Ron Wright
R-11 August Pfluger*
R-13 Ronny Jackson*
R-14 Randy Weber
R-17 Pete Sessions*
R-19 Jodey Arrington
R-22 Troy Nehls*
R-25 Roger Williams
R-26 Michael Burgess
R-27 Michael Cloud
R-31 John Carter
R-36 Brian Babin
R-24 Beth Van Duyne** Newly elected representative
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12 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:
Roger Fucking Stone, conductor of the 2001 Florida mess, at your service. He played a very very large hand in this behind the scenes. This is his metier and he loves it.
My husband says for people to keep saying 'worse than Nixon' every single time, every single time, every single time Trump's name is mentioned. Every single time. He says almost no one would admit to voting for Nixon afterwards and that even though Trump is a 'cult' leader (vs Nixon), that the negative, loser bad guy label will begin to stick. He believes it's important to get it to stick so Trump cannot be a victim nor an outlaw--two very very powerful myths of fairy tales that resonate with populist leaders and their followers.
I think my husband's thought has merit. Course, I'm biased.
Agreed with your husband. It was pointed out yesterday in this thread and later echoed by Brisket that the long-term threat here is that Trump will be viewed as a martyr to the old German stabbed-in-the-back myth that Hitler and the Nazis used to full effect in gaining popularity and coming to power. Personally, I believe that this is a legitimate danger given the potential (and likelihood) that diehard Trump supporters have been installed throughout the federal government. We may well have seen evidence of that in Wednesday's (intentionally?) incompetent response to the attack on the Capitol.
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Unsourced article from Business Insider has quotes from anonymous European security officials saying that circumstantial evidence points toward a coup. (Yes, I understand how flimsy that sentence reads, but I'm putting it here since we're already speculating.)
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1
Quote'Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup'
One NATO source set the stage, using terms more commonly used to describe unrest in developing countries.
"The defeated president gives a speech to a group of supporters where he tells them he was robbed of the election, denounces his own administration's members and party as traitors, and tells his supporters to storm the building where the voting is being held," the NATO intelligence official said.
"The supporters, many dressed in military attire and waving revolutionary-style flags, then storm the building where the federal law-enforcement agencies controlled by the current president do not establish a security cordon, and the protesters quickly overwhelm the last line of police.
"The president then makes a public statement to the supporters attacking the Capitol that he loves them but doesn't really tell them to stop," the official said. "Today I am briefing my government that we believe with a reasonable level of certainty that Donald Trump attempted a coup that failed when the system did not buckle.
"I can't believe this happened."
Quote'Thank God it didn't work, because I can't imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system'
The third official, who works in counterintelligence for a NATO member, agreed that the situation could only be seen as a coup attempt, no matter how poorly considered and likely to fail, and said its implications might be too huge to immediately fathom.
"Thank God it didn't work, because I can't imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system," the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships.
"The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that's why Putin doesn't mind at all that Trump lost. He's got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.
"Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air," the official said. "They won't miss Trump; they'll be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate."
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21 minutes ago, dingleberryswitzer said:
Hey, didn't stop Ted from tryna run for president.
His mom was American, which further demonstrates farcical claims by Trump and the rest of the Birthers that Obama wouldn't have been eligible to become president if he were born outside the States. A big chunk of Trump's political career was founded upon that conspiracy theory. I guess that makes sense in a sick way since the pillars holding up the GOP during the last decade were all conspiracies: birtherism, pizzagate, Benghazi, stolen elections, etc.
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That cop who died had been hit in the head with a fire extinguisher and was taken off life support. Hopefully, they'll have security footage that will identify the murderer. Does this open up the rest of the capitol attackers up to additional charges?
Moreover, the capitol cops who allowed them in and consorted with them had better face the most severe legal consequences possible for their complicity and/or dereliction of duty.
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1 minute ago, Buzzrock said:
FOP is the union. A lot of cops fucking hate them. Just to clarify who’s doing the talking here.I know what the Fraternal Order of Police is. The fact of the matter is this guy is their president and was presumably elected, so he has a lot of support from his fellow cops.
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Thread of a guy enlisting help to ID individuals and their gear. He claims to have ID'd one of the terrorists as recently retired military and has submitted info to FBI. Spoiler alert: that guy was a Longhorn. It's a scary AF thread because it appears to show that those who attacked the Capitol were basically two groups: 1) gawkers/selfie fools and 2) organized paramilitary intent on taking hostages.
(siap - I haven't been able to keep up this this whole thread)
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1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:
Today wasn't a reflection of BLM - it was a follow up to an even earlier act of "protest." I don't know who that twatter is, but he forgot (or is trying to deflect from) these same types of crazies stormed the Michigan capitol before the BLM protests following exhortations to OPEN MICHIGAN?
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It's utterly heartbreaking to hear of your loss. As I've scrolled through all the posts, I struggled to find words of comfort that I could share. But, you know, the precise words don't matter. What does is knowing you have a full roster of folks here grieving with you and for your family. We're here for you always, Immortal.
May your cherished child, Sarah, rest in peace.
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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:
In NM now. Went through rain, sometimes heavy, almost to Big Spring, where it turned to snow for maybe 25 miles. Got pretty heavy for a while. Big Spring was probably up to an inch or so by the time we left. Snow ended maybe 5-10 miles after town, and all was dry.
Here in BS, there's probably only about an inch right now, but the local weather guy is saying we should get anither 4"-7" inches tonight. Not sure how we'll be able to take that length.
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I don't know of any national count of state and local politicians who have contracted the virus, but one can be found for our representatives and senators if y'all are going to try to make the unbelievable case that the Ds are just as bad as the Rs when it comes to taking precautions.
Since this thing began in March, 26 GOP House Representatives have had it; 12 Democratic ones have. Since the fall wave began at the beginning of October, 17 GOP have had it and only 6 Dems.
In the Senate, 8 GOP Senators have had it (6 since the beginning of October); 0 Dems have ever had it.
Then, there's the King of the Dipshits himself: Donald Fucking Trump. Now, think of all the unnamed/unknown staffers who were exposed because of their recklessness. But, we can get an idea of some those in Trump's orbit from a couple of his super-spreader events.
October Outbreak
A coronavirus outbreak centered at the White House has exploded in the weeks since President Trump said he tested positive on October 2. At least three dozen people so far are known to have contracted the virus, but the true number is unknown absent a running update from the White House. Instead, reporters have tapped sources and otherwise relied on the infected to come forward in order to gain a fuller portrait of the disaster. The outbreak has grown so vast that it has apparently infected everyone from unnamed federal employees to senior Pentagon leaders. Here is a running tally of those known to be infected.
- First Lady Melania Trump
- Barron Trump
- Trish Scalia, the Labor secretary’s wife
- Four White House staff members
- Four White House reporters
- White House security official Crede Bailey
- USMC General Gary Thomas
- Senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller
- Two of the president’s military aides
- USCG Admiral Charles Ray
- Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany
- Pastor Greg Laurie
- At least two White House communication aides
- Senior presidential adviser Hope Hicks
- One member of military working in White House
- Two members of housekeeping staff
- White House aide Nick Luna
- Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien
- Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel
- Kellyanne Conway
- Trump adviser Chris Christie
- Senator Mike Lee
- Senator Thom Tillis
- Senator Ron Johnson
- Notre Dame president Father John Jenkins
Weeks after President Trump was hospitalized with COVID-19, another cluster of cases was tied to his administration. This outbreak may have been at least partly connected to the Trump campaign’s Election Night watch party, a gathering of more than 100 people where safety precautions like social distancing and mask wearing were few and far between. In mid-November several people connected to the White House tested positive — although, as during the previous outbreak, the Trump administration refused to provide updates on affected staff. Here is a running tally of people in Trump’s orbit who have contracted the virus in recent weeks.
- Rudy Giuliani
- White House reporter
- 130+ Secret Service Officers
- Jeff Miller
- Corey Lewandowski
- RNC Chief of Staff Richard Walters
- Former campaign aide Healy Baumgardner
- White House political director Brian Jack
- Mark Meadows
- Ben Carson
- David Bossie
I point out the fall wave in particular because, by then, they were back out campaigning but should've known what precautions to take.
Sometimes, it's inevitable that you might get exposed in public. But more often than not, you're not being precautious.
But, yeah, let's continue to make a stink about how a few high-profile Democrats were hypocrites to deflect from the MASSIVE amount of willful ignorance that's been on full display by GOP politicians since all this shit began.
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11 minutes ago, Goredho said:I’m very sorry, Bolverk. I came to post some good news regarding my own elderly parent, and now I just can’t.
Damn all the fucking idiots that have exacerbated this shit.
Please, don't hold back on my account. Spread the good news, because we need some wins to celebrate. I'll check back in later this evening in the hope of seeing some shared joy.
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4 hours ago, Ten Bears said:Tom Green County blowing up. That's just great as my 82 year old dad is going to a wedding there today. At least it is outside.
I'll be passing through San Angelo tomorrow to help my mom out in planning my dad's funeral. He died earlier today at the age of 83 from Covid following a miserable three-week struggle in the hospital. It was a really shitty way to go and not the peaceful bed death surrounded by family/friends that we all wish for.
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