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  1. 26 minutes ago, ITHorn said:

    I have a feeling we may be in for some good news here.. no logic just vibes

    Bad vibes  Committee loves Oregon.  Or they have just decided to put the Pac 12 in during their final year.  UW-OR winner is in the playoffs.  So that game doesn't matter to us, no matter how big a win we get on Saturday.  We need Iowa or Louisville to win.  We should stay ahead of Alabama if they win, but that's not certain.

  2. 1 hour ago, TKthunder2 said:

    Yeah they should call themselves the Wildcats, Cougars, Bears, Bulldogs or Tigers. We could always use more of those in FBS football.

    Well if they changed to the Owls, they might have a shot at the AAC!

    BTW, CUSA made the announcement official.  Delaware joins in 2025.

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  3. https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-oregon-state-washington-state-finalizing-scheduling-alliance-with-mountain-west-conference-180632163.html

    Pac 2 not going away just yet.  OSU/WSU about to finalize a scheduling alliance with the MWC, paying them $14 million to drop to 7 conference games and schedule one with OSU/WSU.  Because they keep existing ooc games, Washington St. will play 8 MWC games next year while MWC members will only play 7!

    Seems like a lot of trouble to go through just to pretend to be in a power conference.  They should have been talking to people instead of suing.  Don't think anyone would begrudge them power CFP money for 2 years.  And at least from public statements, it seems like the dispute with the 10 Pac is current year revenues, which the WSU president previously said HAD to be distributed ratably.

     

  4. 2 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

    Injuries are part of it. Nobody gives 2 Fucks about that. 

    Except of course the committee talks about how it is a factor, whether you do or not.

    Just now, Dahobbs said:

    Again, if you look at the SOS, TCU's was in the 50s (Sagarin). The other champs that made it in were all in the 20s or higher. That's a pretty justifiable reason when comparing teams with the same record and each conference champs. Who cares what the polls had? Who cares what the playoff ratings were the week before? Why should those things matter?  

    So the playoff ratings should be random from week to week?

  5. Just now, Dahobbs said:

    I don't think you're reading your own post. Those records suggest that the seeding has been accurate. The overall winning percentage follows the seeding. 

    Again, what decisions from the committee can't be justified?

    I guess you don't do math.  The #1 has only won 3 out of 9 years and those were overwhelming teams.  The #4 has won 2 out of 9.  Seeding has been pretty poor.  When Alvarez and Osborne were on the committee, #1 seed never won.

  6. 2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

    I'm not sure how to do it easily but it would be interesting to see how SOS looked for these teams and the 2 or 3 below them.

    the committee does value conf championships because coaches value a trophy,  they value losses/wins because each game is like a little trophy.

    what they have proven time and time again they don't value is SOS(computers) because coaches love to say you can only play who is on the schedule.  AD's on the committee don't punish cheesy OOC because they want to schedule auto wins.

    Their reasoning varies week to week.  You can't justify some of their decisions.  Maybe they just outsource their decisions to 247.  Who has the best recruiting class, tempered by the number of wins and losses.

    The #1 team is only 10-6 and that's just because UGA, LSU and Alabama have been so dominant lately.  #1 was 3-5 in the first 5 years.  They've only won 3 of the 9 years.  LSU in 2019 was the first #1 seed to win.

    #2 started better, winning 3 of the first 5, but overall they are just 7-6.

    #3 is 6-8 with Georgia being the only one who won it all.

    #4 has won twice.  They are 4-7 and have lost the last 5 years in the first round.  Of course OU skews the stats.  #4s other than OU are 4-4.

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  7. 4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

    Georgia had a chance to roll Tech and couldn't do it.

    Refs called 3 UGA TDs back and overruled a catch that would have lead to a 4th.  There were a couple of replays that overturned really bad calls.  Lead ref seemed really upset that those got overruled.  Georgia had a starting OL and their top 3 receivers out.  Kirby was just trying to stay healthy.  Play calling was very vanilla.  He wasn't going to show Alabama anything.  It was still a 15 point lead until Tech scored with about 5 minutes left to make it 8.

  8. 2 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

    Except it’s happened many times already in the history of the playoff. The committee has proven time and again they don’t care about conference championship games vs. “eye test.”

    It’s a beauty contest. The BCS was really a superior system of ranking teams. The issue then was 2 vs. 4 spots, not how they were ranked. Flame away. 

    Agree.  I thought the committee would have been better, but it has been far worse.  When Alvarez and Osborne were on it was the worst.  Committee members said they deferred to the coaches.  And it was two 3 yards and a cloud of dust coaches who didn't respect the new offenses.  TCU should have been in 2014.  Its group dynamics.  Groups often get swayed by the most opinionated and they take over.  At least with the polls, the people are responding independently.

    I'll be glad when all they do is pick 6 or 7 and the champs all get in.  A #10/11/12 isn't getting badly screwed if they miss it.

     

  9. 3 hours ago, gmr548 said:


    I made a longer post on this earlier, but let’s just say Texas lives in a glass house when it comes to calling out the strength of other conferences. The Big 12 is utter dogshit this year and its profile is no better (and probably a little worse) than the PAC.

    Oregon played the bottom 6 in the Pac and beat up on them.  You have to look at who they played, not which conference.  And Sagarin, for one, shows the Big 12 as the 2nd strongest conference.

  10. 22 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

    Well once all the receivers were out he should have dropped to about the 15.  Still there in case Milroe runs but can head to the end zone to help if he passes.

     

    But it would have been better if that guy rushed.  You can't give Milroe all day.

  11. 7 minutes ago, blutow said:

    Yeah, I'd actually be surprised if tOSU is not the top (or maybe the 2nd) one-loss team on Tuesday, but any 1 loss team that wins their CCG will jump back ahead of tOSU (and any CCG losers) the following week.  

    Agreed. The only way Ohio St. gets in the playoff is if FSU, Texas and Alabama all lose.  They will be behind the Pac 12 champ, SEC champ and Michigan.  They will be behind Georgia if Alabama wins the SEC.

    And Georgia, Michigan, Washington and FSU all get in with a win.  They simply won't leave out an unbeaten P5 champ.  Oregon, Texas and Alabama don't control their own destiny, but all have a chance.

  12. 13 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

    Texas has no way in....

    Michigan is going to beat Iowa who cannot score

    tOSU is already ahead of us and cannot lose anymore games

    The SEC champ is going regardless of who the victor is and the PAC champ is going regardless of who the victor is.

    At this point I want FSU to go to keep bitch ass Ohio State out.

    BS.  We win and FSU loses and we are in.  Ohio St. has almost no chance.  They will be behind Michigan, the SEC champ and the Pac 12 champ, no matter what.  Texas wins and they are out.  FSU wins and they are out.  They may be behind Georgia if UGA loses.

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  13. 35 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

    The gravity of the beauty contest argument means a lot less when it's two teams arguing over who should be #12 or 13.  The bowl system was the ultimate beauty contest, pining for those days is putting the car into reverse and mashing down on the gas.

    If we get left out behind 4 unbeaten teams I don't really have a problem with that, even if I think we are better than Washington or FSU.

    If we get left out behind Oregon who had a lot weaker SOS I would be very unhappy.  If somehow we got left out behind a 1 loss Ohio St., Michigan or Alabama, then its time to throw out the committee.

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  14. 12 hours ago, blutow said:

    Yeah, I think the one loss Bama vs. Texas debate is a total shot in the dark and could fall either way.  Logically it should be Texas, but we all know the committee members have agendas they are pushing and there are no hard rules.  But I still think Bama winning out can only help Texas.  I know anything is possible, but a 1 loss (non-champ) Georgia getting in as a 2nd SEC team (over a 1 loss champ Texas or Oregon) is way, way off the deep end in my opinion.  The only situations I can remember that a P5 non-champ has gotten in over a champ is when the conference champ has 2 or more losses.  

    What the talking heads seem to forget is that if Alabama beats Georgia, we STILL have a better win than Alabama since they will be ranked ahead of Georgia.

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