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  1. Man, on that 2nd down it looked like Ewers or the RB could have just walked around left end and walked into the end zone.  There were no defenders over there.

    Ewers seems to have happy feet today, throwing before he needs to.  Not trying to hit narrow windows.

     

  2. 1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

    That's your 4th and 2 call?????

    Why do you think he is called 7 win Sark?  Low % call.  Passing on the FG with 2:33 in the half to make it a 3 score game while trying to make 6 yards with the slowest player on your team was another bonehead call.

  3. On 10/12/2023 at 2:01 PM, gatormarc said:

    Getting spicier...

    TL;DR: Under oath this summer in the Comcast case, Klaivkoff stated that USC, UCLA had been removed from the board as they had officially withdrawn. And they also have a letter from him this summer removing Colorado for the same reason; all contrary to what he's saying in court right now supporting that all 12 members should still be on the board since none have "officially" withdrawn.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/10/12/pac-12-legal-fight-in-sworn-statement-in-comcast-case-kliavkoff-admitted-usc-and-ucla-had-been-removed-from-pac-12-board/

     

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    Pac-12 legal fight: In sworn statement in Comcast case, Kliavkoff admitted USC and UCLA had been removed from Pac-12 board
    The revelation is potentially significant in the lawsuit brought by WSU and OSU

    By JON WILNER | jwilner@bayareanewsgroup.com | Bay Area News Group
    PUBLISHED: October 12, 2023 at 6:56 a.m. | UPDATED: October 12, 2023 at 7:37 a.m.

    In a court filing last month in the fight for control of the Pac-12, commissioner George Kliavkoff indicated he had no position on the composition of the conference’s governing board. Whether board seats should be limited to the two remaining schools, Washington State and Oregon State, or available to the 10 outgoing members, as well, was an issue for the universities to settle, Kliavkoff stated in his court declaration.

    But that’s not what he said this summer in a different legal entanglement.

    Weeks before the Pac-12’s collapse, Kliavkoff issued a sworn statement to San Francisco Superior Court in which he stated that UCLA and USC had, in fact, already relinquished their board positions after announcing they would be joining the Big Ten.

    The statement, unearthed Wednesday evening by the Hotline, is one of dozens of filings in a lawsuit brought by two former Pac-12 executives who were terminated for their roles in the Comcast overpayment scandal.

    In the first section of his declaration to the court, which was filed July 12, Kliavkoff states his job title and responsibilities:

    “I am the Commissioner for Defendant Pac-12 Conference and have held this position since July 1, 2021. I report to the Pac-12 Conference Board of Directors, comprised of the Chancellor or President of each member institution.“

    The second sentence is accompanied by the following annotation:

    “The University of California, Los Angeles, and University of Southern California, are no longer among the member institutions represented on the Board of Directors.”

    The declaration is nine pages long and concludes, “I declare under penalty of perjury pursuant to the laws of the United States of America and the State of California that the foregoing is true and correct.”

    It is signed by Kliavkoff.

    A source called the development potentially “significant” in the lawsuit brought by Washington State and Oregon State against the conference over control of the governing board.

    It shows Kliavkoff, under penalty of perjury, acknowledging that announced departures to other conferences trigger removal from the Pac-12’s board — exactly the point Washington State and Oregon State are arguing in their lawsuit.

    The two schools left behind in the realignment game contend the 10 outbound members gave what conference bylaws call “notice of withdrawal” upon announcing their moves to new leagues.

    As a result, the Cougars and Beavers believe they should be the only remaining members of the board. The lawsuit filed Sept. 11 against the Pac-12 attempts to gain judicial clarity on the matter.

    The stakes are high. If Washington State and Oregon State control the board, they control the Pac-12’s assets, including NCAA Tournament revenue worth tens of millions of dollars over time.

    The money could be used to fund their athletic departments or rebuild the conference (with Mountain West teams) after the 10 universities depart next summer.

    A temporary restraining order issued Sept. 11 by Whitman County (Wash.) judge Gary Libey prevents the Pac-12 board from meeting until the makeup of the governing body can be determined. Libey scheduled a hearing on the matter for Nov. 14.

    Additionally, the two sides (the ‘Pac-2’ and the ‘Pac-10’) agreed to enter mediation and began talks earlier this month.

    Kliavkoff’s sworn statement in the Comcast case came in the middle of July, two weeks before Colorado announced its departure for the Big 12 and three weeks before five additional schools agreed to leave.

    At that point, USC president Carol Folt and UCLA chancellor Gene Block had long since been removed from the board of directors. The Pac-12 took that significant step in the summer of 2022, after the L.A. schools accepted Big Ten invitations.

    The conference used the same policy with Colorado on July 27, after chancellor Phil DiStefano informed Kliavkoff via text message that the Buffaloes would be joining the Big 12.

    The next day, Pac-12 general counsel Scott Petersmeyer sent Colorado’s legal officer a letter that included the following:

    “Chancellor DiStefano provided CU’s written notice of withdrawal to Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff on July 27, 2023. Under Section CB 2-3 of the Pac-12’s Constitution and Bylaws, Chancellor DiStefano and CU’s representation on the Pac-12’s Board of Directors automatically ceases effective immediately, and CU no longer has the right to vote on any matter before the Board.”

    A week later, Oregon and Washington left for the Big Ten; Arizona, Arizona State and Utah bolted for the Big 12; and the conference collapsed. Only Stanford, Cal, Washington State and Oregon State remained.

    In early September, the Bay Area schools accepted invitations from the ACC, leaving just the Beavers and Cougars.

    Kliavkoff then attempted to call a meeting of all the presidents and chancellors, including those representing USC and UCLA — this, despite his sworn statement two months earlier that the L.A. school had been removed from the board.

    Washington State president Kirk Schulz and Oregon State president Jayathi Murthy disputed the notion that the outbound schools continued to hold board seats.

    They argued that public announcements of new conference affiliations by the outbound 10 constituted a “notice of withdrawal” that triggered removal from the board.

    But in a letter to Schulz and Murthy before they filed the Sept. 11 lawsuit, Kliavkoff rejected the conclusion that the 10 schools had relinquished their board positions:

    “Your suggestion that ten of the Conference’s 12 members have ‘withdrawn’ from the Conference within the meaning of the Bylaws is mistaken. Not one member school has signaled any intention — or actually attempted — to leave Conference play at any time prior to the end of the current fiscal year on July 31, 2024, or to take back and exploit their media rights.

    “We simply cannot accept the suggestion that only two members. — Oregon State University (OSU) and Washington State University (WSU) — now have the right to determine by themselves all issues affecting the Conference, and determine the course of all revenue coming into the Conference, to the exclusion of the other ten member schools.”

    Three days later, the Beavers and Cougars responded with legal action.

    In his declaration to the Whitman County Court, Kliavkoff said:

    “Neither the Conference nor I have a position with respect to the proper composition of the Pac-12 Board. This is fundamentally a dispute among members.”

    That statement seemingly stakes out a different position on the board makeup than Kliavkoff offered in July, under penalty of perjury.

    The lawsuit in the Comcast case brought by former Pac-12 CFO Brent Willman and former Pac-12 Networks president Mark Shuken is ongoing.

    The Pac-12 and Kliavkoff declined to comment.

     

    More stupid Wilner shit.  Kliavcoff said USC and UCLA had relinquished their board position.  That is not an opinion on whether they needed to.  It is factual.  They quit coming.

    Later he said the members need to decide how to interpret the bylaws.  Again, he wasn't taking an opinion.  He was staying neutral.

    Wilner is reading stuff he wants to in it, just like he has been for the last couple years.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

    “PK has entered the chat”

    Armchair after the fact perfect knowledge QBs.  Sure if you knew you would be stopped at the 28 you run more clock, but you don't plan on that.

  5. 8 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

    Sark said he would change nothing in terms of clock management on our last offensive drive.  

    Ok cool.

    There's a reason some coaches are better in close games than others.  

    Clock management was fine.  Give them the ball with 1:17 left and no timeouts is a win.

    And if they had gotten the first down, they would have wanted the time to try to drive it closer.  As it was, it was a long, not very certain FG.  You didn't want to force yourself to try a 45 yarder if you could have gotten closer.

  6. 9 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

    Makes no sense.

    Geographically they’ll stretch the conference for very little gain. Denver, Salt Lake City, and Phoenix are major airport hubs that are easy to get to. Spokane airport is not. True it’s close to campus which minimizes the bus ride after landing (looking at you WVU) but still it’s not worth the hassle.

    As great as the Zags have been in basketball, it’s all based around a single coach. Once Few retires they have no idea  if the program can sustain or not.

    Especially in a world run by football, why would you saddle yourself with a permanent members for a short term gain that likely turns out to be a long term headache?

    We know realignment isn’t done either with the ACC still ripe for the taking. The Big 12 needs to keep its powder dry.

    I agree with you.  Just doesn't seem worth the long term risk.

  7. 7 hours ago, Pancho said:

    I’ll still say this:

    Texas is 11-18 in the RRS since 1995, 8-16 since 2000.

    What are peoples thoughts as to why that record is what it is?

    Charlie Strong.  He was the worst coach in Texas history and he left the cupboard mostly bare.  Absolutely zero depth.  We weren't any better in talent than half the Big 12.

    Before the last 6 years, UT and OU were dead even in the post DKR era.

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  8. https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-25-oklahoma-georgia-miami-9b1d078d2d3ee3436b9a8c7269112d59

    Basketball isn't that important in realignment, but sometimes the stars align:

    "...The traditional basketball powerhouses continue to shine on the gridiron in 2022.

    The top six schools by appearances in the AP men’s college basketball poll are Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, UCLA and Louisville.

    For the first time in the 87-year history of the AP football poll, all of those schools are ranked at the same time: North Carolina is No. 12, Louisville is 14th, Duke is No. 17, UCLA is 18th, Kansas is No. 23 and Kentucky No. 24...."

  9. On 10/6/2023 at 6:53 PM, Doc Daneeka said:

    Jeff Fuller seems like kind of a dumbass with that Texas take, though. 

    Anybody who still takes a Canzano as fact is a dumbass.

    I don't know if this is the one, but he quotes the Utah president when the Utah president specifically says there was no counteroffer.  They just wanted to go to market.

    One of the many big lies from dumbasses in realignment that keeps getting repeated.  Yes, they talked about $50 million, but the Utah president who was supposedly the source said there wasn't a formal counter-offer, the UW president who was on the executive board said he never heard of a counter-offer and the ESPN president said the Pac 12 NEVER made a counter-offer to their final offer.

    This seems to be a narrative from Kliavcoff's office to try to deflect blame from the hapless Pac 12 executive office.  Not that the Pac 12 presidents weren't pretty bad too.  But its Kliavcoff's clan trying to preserve their reputation for their next job.

  10. 16 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    I’m not so sure he didn’t score. Tip of ball was very close to the white, before his ass touched the ground. But nobody seemed to say anything. 

    They looked at it.  I think he was an inch short, but it was really close.

  11. 24 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

    Everyone neg this dickhead.  He’s a fucking idiot and that should be apparent but I guess it is not.  You negative cunt.  Either we will see these bitches again or they will lose their next game.  We gifted them 7 right off the bat.

    Really.  We are +2 since DKR arrived.  And we've won 4 out of 12, including 49-0 during the worst period we've had since the 1930s.  And them winning 5 of the last 6 is the difference since DKR left.  Before that we were even over 42 years.

  12. 29 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

    Disagree. Player execution was by far and away the primary problem. Ford was completely lost and ineffective all game. We missed tons of tackles, including on the last drive. And let's not forget 3 turnovers and inability to get any push up front when it mattered. 

    And they simply tried harder.  Look at how their RBs and Receivers carried our guys for an extra 2-4 yards and our RBs and Receivers went down.  Look at how much better their receivers blocked our dbs vs. ours whiffing.  Look at them getting 6 sacks and us only getting 1.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

    Let's not also forget the multiple sacks on passing downs. His pocket presence is a work in progress. Not all of those sacks are on him though, but there were certainly occasions where he needed to shit or get off the pot.

    He holds it too long.

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  14. 12 minutes ago, Constant said:

    The four play defensive stand from the 1 will be all-time. What a game. Thats exactly what this rivalry is all about. 

    Brooks needs to learn when to bull forward and when to dance.  He almost always dances.

  15. Ultimately they just wanted it more.  We will get them in December.

    You could see it the way their receivers were blocking our dbs and MItchell, Worthy and Sanders were whiffing when trying to block their dbs.  And their rbs and receivers were carrying our tacklers while ours were mostly going down.

     

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  16. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38556301/stories-air-raid-offense-revolutionized-football

     

    Really good (long) story on the Air Raid offense and its origination under Hal Mumme and Mike Leach.

    "Long before the world knew Mike Leach or Dana Holgorsen or any of the other oddballs, eccentrics and revolutionaries of the Air Raid fraternity, Hal Mumme was a high school coach in Copperas Cove, Texas, with a problem....

     

    He stopped by the football offices to congratulate Mumme on his new job he'd just landed at a small college, Iowa Wesleyan. By the time he left, Mumme had once again recruited him to play quarterback for a team that was similar to Sanders' Colorado experiment: IWU was coming off an 0-10 season and had just two players returning.

    "We tried to have a team meeting after I got introduced at the press conference and they told me there were going to be 40 guys," Mumme said. "I walk in, there's two, and the three that I brought with me. I just gave 'em the same speech I was going to give 'em anyway about working hard in the offseason, and we're going to win games. One kid just got up and walked out. I guess he decided, 'This is bulls---, I'm not doing this.' So we had four."

    Leach was one of only two applicants for Mumme's offensive coordinator job, and they quickly realized they were kindred spirits. It was a leap of faith: The high school coach took a $20,000 pay cut to try to prove himself in college again. The lawyer who could've made $200,000 a year instead was making $12,000, and the golfer took on student-loan debt to go to school in Iowa -- where none of them had ever been.

    They went 7-4 the next year, then, by 1991, started tinkering and added the up-tempo element where they never huddled and ran plays at a frenetic pace. Opposing teams had never seen anything like it and had no idea how to stop it. In Dewald's accidental career, he threw for 12,045 yards, 115 TDs and set 25 NAIA records...."

     

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  17. 1 hour ago, mdmost said:

    "...Conference schedules will include 12 protected matchups that will continue to be played annually and feature a combination of historic and geographic rivalries, as well as trophy games. These matchups were finalized in conjunction with all 18 member institutions to ensure the traditions of the Big Ten Conference remain strong as the conference evolves. 

    The guaranteed annual protected matchups are Illinois-Northwestern, Illinois-Purdue, Indiana-Purdue, Iowa-Minnesota, Iowa-Nebraska, Iowa-Wisconsin, Maryland-Rutgers, Michigan-Michigan State, Michigan-Ohio State, Minnesota-Wisconsin, Oregon-Washington and UCLA-USC...."

    Only 12 protected matchups.  Iowa gets 3, Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan get 2, all the rest but Penn St. get 1.  PSU gets zero.

    So for PSU, its 11 schools 3 times and 6 2 times over 5 years.

    For Ohio St. and the schools with 1, its 8 3 times and 8 2 times and 1 5 times.

    For Michigan and the schools with 2, its 5 3 times and 10 2 times and 2 5 times.

    For Iowa its 2 3 times and 12 2 times and 3 5 times.

    I think its a mistake not to have at least two every year rivals for everyone.  It would be like Michigan's schedule, still with 5 3 times and the rest twice in 5 years.  You could add something like UCLA-UW, USC-Oregon, Ohio St.-Penn St., Penn St.-Maryland, Michigan St.-Indiana, Nebraska-Minnesota and throw in Northwestern-Rutgers.  Iowa and Minnesota get 3.

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  18. 9 hours ago, closetojumping said:

    Neuheisel is saying he's hearing credible rumblings of Clemson heading to the SEC and the announcement may be coming very soon. He's not going to offer that up unless he's pretty confident in the source. 

    Anybody here got anything around that? I didn't go back and look, but don't see anything fresh about it on this page.

    Some of the Clemson insider fan sites are saying they've been told something will happen in October, but I think it was the AD at Clemson said they had no offers so not to expect anything soon.

  19. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/09/27/pac-12-collapse-washington-president-says-500-million-counteroffer-to-espn-would-have-been-stupid-doubts-it-ever-happened/'

    UW saying the $50 million story not correct.  Later in the story, Wilner says Klavicoff told them they should get $35-$43 million.

     

    "...Instead, Cauce said the $50 million figure was discussed last year as a target for the total revenue distributions to the campuses — meaning it would have included payouts from the College Football Playoff, the NCAA Tournament and the media rights deal.

    “In some models, it was possible for some schools to get $50 million,” Cauce told the Hotline in an interview earlier this month. “But at no time did anyone think we could all get $50 million in media rights. That would have been stupid.”

    Cauce explained that after the announced departures of USC and UCLA (in June 2022), commissioner George Kliavkoff told the 10 remaining presidents that 30 percent of the conference’s media valuation “just walked out the door.”

    “There was no scenario in which everybody thought the schools could bring in $50 million,” Cauce added. “The estimates from George were in the $30 millions to low $40 millions. Potentially, some (schools) could make $50 million with the (playoff) and media rights...."”

     

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