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  1. 3 hours ago, Saint Austin said:

    This is the correct answer. Houston kinda gets screwed, but they're lucky to have a seat to begin with. Plus, they only joined the SWC in the '70s.

    Don't make it quite so structured.

    BYU, AZ, ASU, UU, CU-play 3 games against each other (except BYU-2), skip CU-BYU, UU-AZ, BYU-ASU

    KSU, KU, ISU play each other and one of the 3 east schools (say KSU-WVU, ISU-UC, KU-UCF)

    UCF-WVU-UC play each other and one of the Big 12 N schools

    OSU, TT, TCU, BU, UH-play 3 games against each other (except UH-2 who plays BYU), skip TT-TCU, UH-OSU, UH-BU

    Besides the 3 fixed, you get everyone else every other year.

  2. 9 hours ago, thunderlounge said:


    On August 1st, before 3 of the 4 corners along with UW/UO made their move, did USC/UCLA/CU have voting rights on the board?

    The answer is clearly, firmly, “NO.”

    The two left absolutely suck shit through a straw. There is no debating that. However, just because they’re the bottom of the barrel doesn’t mean that their rights to the conference they are STILL in are diminished or fail to exist.

    Those whom have left, forfeited their rights. It’s been shown that is how it works. End of story.

    The rest is nothing more than low-IQ fluff to watch with a bowl of popcorn. Cheap entertainment.

    It doesn’t matter who contributed in the past. They’ve left.

     

    You want to tell me now that TX/ou should sue the b12 for their prior contributions to the conference? Because that’s what you’re saying the leaving entities of the pac should do, so what’s the difference.

    Get the fuck outta here with that weak ass line of thinking. Those leaving the pac knew what would happen, and now they have to deal with it. Whether or not the remaining two are relevant in anything is inconsequential to whether or not they have rights. And they do have every right.

    I couldn’t care less about the future of either program, but that doesn’t mean the leaving entities get to call the shots. They don’t.

    IF the pac were to cease to exist after this season, that’s one thing.  However it’s going to still be a conference next season, without those entities. Might not be big, might not last more than 24 months, but it will last past the date of those departing. 
     

    You leave, you forfeit current conference rights to include voting rights. Period. 

    Actually the whole conference left.  UH didn't inherit all the SWC assets when they were the last to turn out the lights.

    This isn't at all like 2 schools out of 10 leaving.  And UT and OU never acknowledged that their voting rights were gone.  They just quit coming to future oriented meetings.

  3. 9 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

    Am I nuts or didn’t Army used to be in AAC? Or was it Conference USA? I remember them playing Tulsa regularly for a while…

    CUSA with a lot of the schools now in the AAC.  Memphis, Tulane, UAB, ECU along with Southern Miss, UH, Cincy and Louisville.  And eventually USF and TCU before they dropped out.

  4. 17 hours ago, thunderlounge said:

    About whether or not they get any say in what happen with the conference. 
     

    The same conference in which they don’t have voting rights, per bylaw as well as precedence, yet are trying to run.

    That’s what they’re in court for. Do those entities which have informed the conference they are leaving (all but 2), have any voting rights or not. The bylaws, as well as precedence, say they do not.

    So the 2 left got an injunction to stop the leaving entities from trying to carve up the remaining conference assets. Problem being, there is still a conference, with members, even if for only a short time frame.

    You can’t fault the two-fer for trying to keep what is legally theirs. 

    The by-laws are not clear at all.  The same passage that says they have no voting rights says the remaining schools can sue for damages to the conference if announce intent to leave, when its clear there is no penalty for leaving on 8/2/24.  It seems like that passage is talking about them actually leaving instead of just announcing.   Or maybe its mixing the two.  Its just really unclear and very poorly written.

    And while you can sympathize with them for being left behind, they are easily the two weakest state schools in the P5 in fan support despite being decent sized schools.  OSU is bigger than Oregon.  The assets of the Pac 12 were overwhelmingly earned by someone else.

     

  5. 1 hour ago, Jabberwocky said:

     

    Being a 2 Pac sounds like a stupid idea that will kill their athletic programs.  All seems to be about the lawsuit.

    Much better solution:

    Negotiate with CFP to get 2/70th shares for the next two years for OSU/WSU.  Article seems to indicate nobody is opposed to that.

    Negotiate with 10 Pac to allow the 2 to add all 12 MWC schools.

    Continue on with the lawsuit over residual money, assets and basketball credits (or reach a settlement).

  6. On 10/23/2023 at 10:47 AM, Francisco 2.0 said:

     

    Now this is the scintillating realignment news that everyone was waiting for.

    The dominos are starting to fall.

     

     

    Well the NEC and MEAC may need some sort of merger.  Both are getting short of teams.

  7. On 3/7/2023 at 6:51 PM, Ignatius said:

    True, but the Yates team that dominated Mojo in 1985 is the all-time big-school standard for badass, at least in my lifetime…

    Looked it up.  Jones played Yates within one score twice and Madison  and W-O Stark were 13.  Every other win was at least 19 points.  State final was 37-0.

    This was one of the years they did beat Madison.  They lost 9 games in 6 years and 4 or 5 were to Madison (they would play before district and several times in playoffs) along with 3 losses deep in the playoffs.  Madison had Broderick Thomas, Nebraska All America and longtime NFL player during several of those years.  Their best team until VY came along.

  8. 4 hours ago, Skipper said:

    He was not good yesterday after the first quarter.  There isn't any other way to spin it.  I'm not sure if Houston started doing something on defense he wasn't expecting or what but he absolutely could not process or progress through reads and just checked down over and over.   Like someone said yesterday, if Sark doesn't scheme a WR open that he recognizes pre-snap he doesn't process well.  I don't have any idea how that is going to translate to NFL QB and I'm betting scouts see games like yesterday and second guess his multi-million dollar arm.

    Everyone was bitching about Sark "stalling" with the offense but we have better players that should win every matchup  at TE/WR and Quinn just turtled.   I know he was injured at that point, but the goal line series where he threw the ball away twice with numerous open receivers was just bad.  On the 3rd down, he could have actually just checked down and Brooks walks in.

    Quinn was 23 for 29 including those last two misses.  He could have been better, but he wasn't bad until that last drive.  He was completing 85%.

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  9. It was 21-7, not 21-0.  But 24-7 is 3 scores.  21-7 and giving them the momentum is just stupid.  There was only 2:33 left in the half, so we weren't likely to get the ball back in good field position.

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  10. 21 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

    I think quite a bit of holding goes uncalled in the SEC. Likewise PI, but I think the real issue is it more even handed. Time will tell, but I'm optimistic that calls will be more even handed. I certainly don't expect it to be worse than the Rig 12. Likewise, SEC reffed games seem to flow better. That in itself should be a huge improvement.

    SEC rarely calls holding on running plays, but they will sometimes on passing plays.

    They rarely call late hits.

  11. 1 hour ago, Bevoette said:

    I think he was inches short he turned his back while still moving his legs and we were able to stop him it was so damn fucking  close. Could have gone either way. But when I think about how their guy went out of bounds two yards  short of  the first down marker and it gave him the first down and the time they almost took Quinn's head off by tackling up around the neck and throwing him down, oh and all the fucking holding Houston did.  I call it an ugly win is a win 

    On the previous play their TE fell to the 9.  They could have given him that spot.  You couldn't tell for sure if his knee was down from the TV camera angle before he stretched to the 9.  I think it was right at the 10, but if it got called the other way, it might not have been overturned.  That 2nd angle on the next play made it look like the spot was right.

  12. 1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

    We can bitch all we want to about this game, but make no mistake this is a scenario in which last years team would have found a way to lose vs finding a way to win.

     

    Could o, should of, would of been a blowout. Take the win and move on.

     

    I am curious if Ewers got hurt in the 1Q and tried to tough it out until he took the big hit in the 3rd

    He was 23-29 and that included missing those last 2 throws.  So he was fine most of the game.

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