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  1. Breaking news: Paul Ryan's a dick.

    https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/04/26/report-house-chaplain-jesuit-priest-was-forced-out-speaker-paul-ryan

     

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    A Jesuit priest who served as chaplain to the U.S. House of Representatives since 2011 was forced to resign by Republican Speaker Paul Ryan earlier this month, The Hill newspaper reported Thursday.

    According to the report, Patrick Conroy, S.J., submitted his resignation earlier this month, and it included a reference that it was written at the request of Speaker Ryan, who is Catholic.

    “As you have requested, I hereby offer my resignation as the 60th Chaplain of the United States House of Representatives,” the letter reads, according to The Hill.

    Members of Congress from both parties expressed shock at the forced resignation, The Hill reports, with one congressional aide telling reporters that the speaker was dismayed by a prayer Father Conroy gave on the House floor that some may have interpreted as being critical of the G.O.P.-backed tax bill that passed last year.

    Fun little update for y'all:

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    • Rev. Patrick Conroy, the House chaplain and a Jesuit priest, rescinded his resignation on Thursday after House Speaker Paul Ryan asked him to step down.
    • Conroy has served in the role, an elected position, since 2011.
    • Ryan later released a statement saying that he "accepted" Conroy's letter and would allow him to "remain in his position."

    Seen in a comment to that article, and I think it's a pretty spot-on encapsulation of where we are:

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    The party of faith and morals assails the House chaplain; the party of law and order targets the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department; the party of family values excuses the President’s payoff of a pornstar. Hell, the party of smaller government and reduced deficits ballooned the national debt! 

    This is where we are.  Up is down, down is up...and every complaint/accusation is actually a confession.

    I truly don't understand how a thinking person can continue to support GOP leadership.  Everything they SAY they stand for, they're against.  Well, except blaming mexicans and such for all of our woes -- on THAT, they follow through.

  2. 1 hour ago, F250 said:

    Chinese culture doesn't celebrate individualism and it doesn't help that the state censors Western ideas such as individual liberty. Plus they kick the shit out of the few that dare to speak out against the state.

    China is simply an authoritarian state.

     

     

    And it always has been -- for hundreds (thousands?) of years.  Seriously, it's deeply ingrained in their culture.  Communism just matched up well with that, it didn't create it.

     

  3. 9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

    I think my Aunt has Fox News on 24/7.  Quite literally.

    She will fly in for a visit and then, without asking, switch the TV to Fox News.  On several occasions I've had to (gently) scold her and say "hey, let's wait until after the game" or "hey, let's wait until <grandson's> 'Scooby-Doo' is over".  It's fucking infuriating.  She's 80, I'm not getting in a Battle Royale with her, but come on.

    Life was much better when olds like my grandpa watched the Weather Channel all day long.

    Maybe we need to launch, as a public service, easy-access free porn that appeals to old people.  Stuff they can look at on their Jitterbug and such.  Get em distracted by boobs, keeping them mostly harmless.

  4. 10 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

    The GOP is about 65 million people, not elected officials or party people.  

    Here's how you start to fix it.

    The GOP used to be 65 million people.  But after the last 10 years or so, I had no choice but to leave.  Now it's 64,999,999.

    And I know a lot of other people who have done the same.  Maybe it's 64 million.  Or 63.  But it's dropping for sure:

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    The percentage of Americans who consider themselves Republican or lean that way has dropped since Donald Trump was elected president, a Gallup poll found. Those identifying with the Democratic Party have held steady.

    The percentage of people who identify as or lean Republican has fallen 5 points from 42 percent of the population to 37 percent, according to the poll comparing November 2016 with November 2017, which was released last week.

    The government serves we the people.  And as entities that interface with and bring our concerns and positions to the government, parties serve we the people.  And when a service-provider gives me consistently shitty service, I -- at the very least -- stop doing business with that service provider.

    THAT'S how you send a message to an organization that depends on membership and member participation (that is, voting).  If Costco starts providing utterly shitty products, and treats its customers like shit, then it will (1) lose members and (2) lose the purchases those members would make.

    The GOP is bleeding members.  People like me are providing the GOP with the ultimate, and most valuable, feedback.

    Blind loyalists like Tahoe are feeding them lies, pretending that all is well.  The party of lies, supported by liars.  It seems all too fitting, doesn't it?

     

    Oh, and note that I didn't go buy a Sam's membership when Costco turned to shit -- I'm not a big fan of Sam's.  But I will be damned happy when Costco (in our analogy above) either (1) goes under or (2) comes to its senses and starts stocking decent products again.

  5. 52 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    The slot machine had to have seven cherries and it got seven cherries.   One of the cherries was people like Senator McConnell, Senator Shelby and me saying "I'm out of here".  There were six other cherries on the slot dial.  But Jones needed all seven to win. 

    This is magnificent.

    You know what I call it when I sue someone seeking $7 million, and their defense is "no, I only owe you $6 million?"

    I call that a fucking WIN.

    Your defense is that (to go with your metaphor) the GOP is only 6/7ths as morally bankrupt and horrific as I thought it was.

    That, mind you, is your DEFENSE OF YOUR PARTY.  "They're not as horrifically awful as you thought they were, brisket!  HAHA!  They're just ALMOST as shitty as you thought they were!  TAKE THAT!"  Seriously.  Put down the shovel.  You've already shown us that the hole you're digging has no bottom.  You don't need to keep digging to prove it.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

    No, see, that tells us that the GOP is good guys.  See, they TRIED to do the shitty thing, but they FAILED.  So that means they did the RIGHT THING. How many times do we have to explain it to you?  SHEESH.

  7. Look, gotta give the Russians and the Chinese some credit -- they figured out how to beat the capitalists, and make them destroy themselves: pay other capitalists to do it for them.

    We'll eat our own, so long as we're profiting from it.

    We elected a president who effectively has that as his motto: "I'll fuck over anyone, at any time, if it makes me a buck."

    Capitalism without ethics is the most self-destructive force on the planet.  And we're getting to watch it in action.  In the name of a profit, these outfits will utterly destroy the very system that made their profits possible, and they won't know or care until the self-destruction is complete.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    They play to win, not throw tantrums to no effect.

    Win what?

    Keep their seat.  That's the only "win" they care about.  Full stop.

    They aren't fighting FOR this Republic, they're fighting AGAINST IT (yes, that's what they are doing -- again, they are NOT neutrals here), for one thing, and one thing only -- to hold onto power.

    You've chosen your side at Normandy.  I for one am looking forward to the naval bombardment followed by the B-24s.

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  9. Just now, TahoeHorn said:

    I predict you will be just as wrong about this as you were about Roy Moore.  Roy Moore went down when GOP stalwarts like me and Senator Shelby (note the implied equivalence ;) ) wrote in a GOP person instead of voting for Moore.  Had we voted for Moore he's be Senator.  Note also that Moore had essentially no national support.  The RNC pulled out the day after I met with them.  The GOP Senators gave him the cold shoulder and discussed ethics hearings to toss him.  Your dystopian view of the GOP was 100% wrong there.

    For the 101st time these guys are smarter than you about when to fight.  They play to win, not throw tantrums to no effect.

    It was wrong by -- literally -- a handful of votes.  It was right by SIX HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND FUCKING VOTES. 

    Only you could claim that the GOP achieved some sort of moral high ground by BARELY -- by 2% -- avoided electing a lying pedophile who openly flouted the law.  THAT is your fucking high ground?  THAT'S where you wanna plant your flag?

    Holy shit.  I'd say y'all have hit rock-bottom...but I know you haven't.  You're still in utter freefall.

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  10. Hey, look what I found!  An old picture of Tahoe, explaining to the allied leaders that he was just waiting for EXACTLY the right time to do the right thing, and he totally would have done the right thing, too, if they'd given him a bit more time before they invaded and shit.

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  11. 3 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    If you're going to die, die storming the beaches of Normandy on June 6, 1944 so others can invade.  Don't die on the beaches in December 1941 storming the beach by yourself for no good reason.

    For the 100th time choose the time and place of your fight.

    You forgot to mention another important thing to choose with respect to a fight: the right side.

    Easy thing for a modern GOP fanboy to miss, I get it.

    Your boys are already fighting.  They're in the pillboxes taking potshots at the allies.  All the defenses you've mounted for that amount to (1) well, not ALL of them are, and (2) they're really bad shots.

    Whatever.  I hope they all get fucking wiped off the map come June 6th of '44. 

  12. Just now, jimmyjazz said:

    How exactly does Congress "reinstate" a fired Mueller?  More specifically, how exactly does THIS Congress "reinstate" a fired Mueller?

    They don't.  They get in line, because of the courage present among GOP leadership is too small to even be detected by an electron microscope.

    I formally make a motion that we change the colors associated with the parties.  They should no longer be Blue states or Red states.  Blue states and Yellow states from now on.

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  13. Just now, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

    Most Rs are in districts full of Rs.  Showing they pushed back against Trump would get them killed.  

    Then do the honorable thing, and die for your fucking country.

    I thought that's what patriots did.  Or at least, they used to.  Fantastic.  The GOP has managed to completely change the definition of "Patriot" to "someone who's too gutless a coward and too worried about their own cushy political position to do a single goddamn thing in the interest of the country."  Fascinating.

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  14. 5 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    Dude, if Mueller's investigation is thwarted I'll be more angry than you.  And I'll be doing things where it really counts, not on some Internet board I use for entertainment.

    No you won't.  I'll bet you dollars to your delivered donuts that you'll be on here posting, nonchalantly, about how that means there was obviously nothing there, and thus we need to let Trump get along with the business of making America great again.  And you'll definitely be doing something outside of this board -- delivering donuts, supporting your local sycophants who successfully conspired to thwart the rule of law.

    You aren't even a good liar. 

  15. 10 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

    “First of all, if we had to defend this as not being a campaign contribution, I think we could do that.

     

    10 minutes ago, Kyrie Eleison said:

    “Imagine if that came out on Oct. 15, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with Hillary Clinton … Cohen didn't even ask. Cohen made it go away. He did his job.”

    Just two great back-to-back statements.

     

    But I gotta tell you guys, I THINK I've figured out Team Trump's strategy.........

    ....Give Mueller TOO MUCH evidence.  See, that way, there will be SO much evidence of criminal conduct, no jury or other finder of fact can sort out the EXACT crime committed.

    That's my working hypothesis.  I'm willing to consider other takes, though.

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  16. 1 minute ago, TahoeHorn said:

    I do not believe that is happening.  I think there are some Germans who are guilty of your charge.  That is what Hitler is doing and he has some supporters.    I think Gernany as a whole is working to ensure that Hitler doesn't take us down a dark path.  And right now, no ovens have been built.  I'll bet the House that Hitler has been warned, politely and behind the scenes that if he tries to take Germany down a dark path that he will regret it.  I think that's the right position.  They're just going to have to live with Hitler yammering.

    With courageous patriots like you and your GOP pals standing in the breach, I don't see why any of us should lose a minute of sleep worrying.

    What you don't see is that the GOP is cementing its image for tens of millions of people as "the party of treason."  And I'm not just referring to hippie libruls -- I'm talking about folks I know who have been lifelong Republican voters.

    The GOP is NOT just being neutral -- they are both actively and tacitly engaged in and support an effort to derail and discredit the Mueller investigation.  And you see it.  But you're just fine with evil, so long as your tax bill goes down a few percentage points and some judges who will keep the uppity types in their place get appointed.

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  17. 3 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

    The important battle to fight at this time is to allow Mueller to continue to do his job.  The smart move is to ensure that happens and let the smaller stuff go.

    1 -- that battle is being fought.

    2 -- your party is fighting for the other side in that battle.

    3 -- you are a spineless hypocrite.

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  18. 3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    The list goes on and on.  All you want to talk about is why it's ok the GOP hasn't filed articles of impeachment.  Which is, not coincidentally, what nobody here is talking about.

    1000X this, Tahoe.

    You are defending the GOP taking a position of neutrality.

    Nobody is criticizing that....mostly because...that's NOT what the GOP is doing.  They are actively assisting Trump, actively working to derail, interfere with, and discredit Mueller's investigation.  Shit, if they were simply neutral, we probably would need to celebrate that.

    Stop defending GOP neutrality because (1) we're not criticizing that and (2) that's not what the GOP is actually doing.

    Discuss the coordinated, multi-pronged approach of GOP leadership and politicians to derail, interfere with, and discredit Mueller's investigation.  Discuss THAT, because that's, you know, what's actually happening.

  19. Just now, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

    It’s the one this GOP has been vocal about. I’ve seen  several say Mueller should be able to do his job.  Our own Cornyn tops on the list. 

    Cornyn has the testicular fortitude of a eunuch.  When the shit hits the fan, he'll get in line with the rest of 'em.

    Party over country. 100%, 100% of the time.  That's the guarantee.

  20. 34 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

    Please STFU about things of which you have no idea what you're talking about, especially about my motives regarding anything.  

    You've been out on a building ledge for about year now, get help.

    I quoted your exact fucking words, you simpering sycophant.

    Your EXACT.  FUCKING.  WORDS.

    Why don't you tell US what they mean, as if the plain English wasn't enough?  It's rather clear, you have ZERO problem with any foreign power doing anything to us and our allies, so long as it serves your goals.  If not, please explain what "It's no myth we meddle in other nations elections as well.  Who's worse ?" means?

     

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  21. Just now, Dutchrudder said:

    That's really what everyone should be doing at this point, regardless of affiliation.

    The GOP should be protecting the process though. Ken Starr's investigation went on for years, and hit a wide range of subjects well beyond the Whitewater deal. It really shouldn't be such a crazy notion that the people with so much power need to be checked by an independent investigator. 

    But...see....this is the thing....not only is the GOP not in favor of due process and the rule of law....they actually see it as an impediment.

    What we are seeing is the ultimate end-game of when the pursuit and maintenance of power trumps literally all other values and goals.  They want to have and hold power in order to mold the Republic the way they see fit.  And if, to have and hold that power, they have to kill the Republic, then so be it.

    "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."  Except there's not even the illusion or effort to lie about trying to save the village.  They just want power, to line their pockets and their pals' pockets, and who gives a fuck about the village and everyone in it.

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