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  1. 40 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

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    I still rather have the divisions mirror what schools have now.  Okie and ksu both will be included.  If Stanford or Cal put up a fight, say good bye to them as well.. or just keep one.  Then Utah and possibly Colorado can join the cougar outside the window.  One thing for sure.. If Colorado is a part of this, wonder how Corn fans will feel

     

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  2. 1 hour ago, camel at sea said:

    It makes sense if the PAC in-fighting is specifically between Southern Cal and Stanford.  If SC isn't the one in charge (their AD just implied that they haven't been calling the shots and to their detriment) then the school that's most likely calling the shots is in Palo Alto.  

    If the two CA schools can't come to a solution together, then the CA schools split up.

    Then SC can say goodbye to Stanford.  I bet if SC said who's coming with me.. their DMs will be FULL

  3. The pay bump for a merger would be big for the current Big 12 and a wet dream for the current Pac schools.  Lots of people keep saying that fans just don't care about college sports out West... I think with the pay bumps, these schools can do what the middle and lower tier teams of the Rust Belt do.. hire better coaching.

  4. 21 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

    Since it was told to me by a friend, a former WVU football player, who has/had been involved with WVU athletics, yeah, I think I did.

    I don't care what happens to Morganhole Community College, but my friend had no reason to lie to me.

    curb your enthusiasm judging you GIF

  5. 2 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

    2019 USC home attendance:  59,358

    2019 Iowa State home attendance:  59,807

    They don't fucking care.

    2019 season was a lame duck year for USC football.. they had a dead man walking for a HC (somehow got a stay for now), and boosters boycotting with no AD.  And still were pretty much even with attendance with ISU.  I'm not saying that Iowa st, KSU should be left behind or anything.  But SC is still SC despite the dumpster fire it currently is.  This notion of thinking that it's them and just one partner being allowed to join is a joke.  You can call it a merger or annex or expansion but a min of 7/8 teams from the Pac along with 7/8 of the current big 12 makes the most sense,

    Keep the schools in the same division as now.  The 9th conf game will be a random crossover game from the opposite division.

    Iowa St, KSu fans should be happy.. they have a chance to grab kids from Cali now too if this were to happen.

  6. 2 hours ago, utee94 said:

    I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

    Texas and OU would only leave the B12 for a more profitable conference, and the only two options there, are the B1G and the SEC.  Texas and OU aren't going to leave the B12 and take a step down to the PAC. 

    USC is not negotiating from a position of strength.  Adding USC to the B12 would increase the profitability of the conference.  Adding USC and a partner like UCLA would still be a net positive.  But adding USC and a bunch of dead weight from the PAC doesn't make any sense and it's something the B12 wouldn't do.  If all of the schools you mention like UW, Oregon, ASU, and Arizona, really were as desirable as you seem to think they are, don't you think they'd be getting paid accordingly?  But they're not, and they aren't.

    Everyone has understood that the B12 adding undesirable schools doesn't make any sense.  They'll bring nothing to the table, but they'll still take from it.  Noting has changed that, just because USC is potentially in play.  USC is a school that makes sense to add to the B12. The rest of the PAC, not so much.  So it would be a question of who exactly USC would want to bring along.

    Meaning it's not as simple as it looks.  

  7. 25 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

     

    I feel like the next wave will be less about maximizing the terrestrial footprint of the conferences, and more about maximizing the per-school revenues and competitive attractiveness. I also think that the law of diminishing returns has been reached with conference membership-- bigger is not automatically better, i.e., a conference isn't suddenly worth more per member (or even more in total) just by adding a couple of third- or fourth-tier programs. In this model, the ideal would be a Pac Western conference of maybe 12 teams total. 

    Let's assume that's right, even though it's just my opinion. The challenge there is, what do you do with hanger-on programs, the lesser program in any state? If you say "we want to make the BEST conference we can out of the 22 schools in the Pac-12 / Big 12 by paring it down to 12 teams total", then Oregon State and Washington State aren't in that mix, but good fucking luck separating them from Oregon and Washington. Not because Oregon and UW particularly care, but because their state legislatures will. 

    Likewise, it might be difficult for Oklahoma to separate from Oklahoma State, or Texas from TCU, Baylor, and Tech. 

    So now we swerve back to the opposite guardrail and say "OK, let's mash those 22 schools together into one conference" and maybe you're able to ditch West Virginia, maybe even WVU, KSU, Iowa State, and Utah to get down to 18. 18 is still way too many and I think in the next round, with TV money potentially tighter (I could be wrong about that), you'd obviously rather split a billion dollars among 16 schools than 18. 

    you would still need schools like Kansas, TCU (Baylor gets the boot, Anne Richards isn't gonna save them this time), AZ, etc. as mid tier schools in this conference.  

  8. 48 minutes ago, utee94 said:

    Not a merger, there'd be no point in taking the PAC's weak properties.  There's really only one school in the PAC that would move the needle for the B12, but if they wanted to bring along another program in their own region, that would certainly be worth considering.

    You don't think UCLA would be a good fit as well?  I mean I think UCLA, UW, OR, AZ, ASU move the needle more than Iowa St, Kansas St and WV, no?

  9. 15 minutes ago, Iceman said:

    And Phil Knight is just gonna what... vaporize or get into drone racing or some shit? Cal and Stanford left to rot with Dawg and Coug from Washington?

     

    LOlz.

    yeah this is why if this thing comes to fruition it will have to be a minimum of 8 current schools out west. Could Colorado be on the outside looking in?

     

  10. 12 minutes ago, mdmost said:

    Yeah, I was out on realignment until today. If we can rip USC away from the Pac 12, let's do it. Pull in UCLA as they're bleeding money and will want that Big 12 TV money. Plus, it gives USC a partner. Gets us back to 12. If we want 14, grab the Arizonas as they're DTF. USC gets more money and games against Texas and OU every couple of years. If WVU doesn't like to travel to the other coast, welp, thank you for your service then and throw a lifeline to Cal or Stanford. 

    Think the best route would to take 7/8 schools from the current Pac conference along with 7/8 of the current big 12 conference (Bye Baylor, WV)

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  11. It's February, atleast we know he doesn't want anything to do with Texas.  I'd thank him for letting us know early, the same way Zach did a solid for us last spring. Good luck at Bama or ou or wherever you wind up at (maybe aggy?).  I'm sure you'll have an awesome time away from Austin lol

  12. 11 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

    So, what's the REAL story on this dude?  

    "I just don’t like them," he said. "A lot of people just think we grew up loving Texas. It’s not really like that out here. In my recruitment—I can’t really speak for anybody else—but I feel like Texas was sleeping on me. I mean I live 20 minutes away from the school, and I had an OU offer, an Alabama offer. I had all these different offers before I even got the UT offer. And I camped up there. I went and visited like five weeks in a row. So with me, UT, they don’t really have a shot with me. Like, that’s dead. They can take their offer back to tell you truth."

    McCutchin is a four-star recruit, according to the 247 Sports Composite Player Rankings, and committed to Nick Saban's Tide last June.

    he also said he can't imagine living in Austin for the next 4 years, and his parents don't like UT either. Dad likes FSU, mom just wants him to be happy lol.  I get the Austin part.. As soon as I graduated I went to the Marines, because I needed to get out of the city..  Then I realized once I was away how special Austin really is and I'm still trying to return :( 

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  13. On 2/20/2020 at 4:47 PM, HornsofBevo said:

    My biggest question in all this realignment talk is from the PAC and BIG12 standpoint isn't it obvious that the two leagues need to form some kind of merger to survive long term? The BIG 12 will be at best in 3rd in money behind the SEC and B1G for decades at the rate this is going. The PAC is already looked at as number 5 out of the P5 with no upward projection in sight. The money gap is only going to increase which is going to start to tempt blue bloods to leave. I don't know how many teams have to leave the PAC for the league to dissolve but I have read that the BIG 12 needs 8 teams to leave for the league to break up. If that's true a merger seems to be the obvious solution. Dissolve both leagues, place Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA , Arizona, Arizona St, Utah and Colorado in one division and Texas, Tech, TCU, Oklahoma, Okie st, Kansas, Kansas st and Iowa st in the other. It doesn't matter how often every team in one league plays the other league. The regional teams get to play each other every year and with a 9 team conference schedule every team will play each other a least once every 4 years. Just about every major TV market for college football could be owned by a FOX or ESPN. The PAC team division would get better national exposure playing central time games and California would open up for the smaller BIG 12 schools. That seems to be the best solution for both conferences if they want to compete long term with the SEC and B1G. Unless something similar to this happens I think the BIG 12 loses Oklahoma and even Texas over the next decade.

    This isn't so bad.  Both divisions keep it's regional rivals..and best part? No more Baylor!!!

  14. 10 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

    I think they want to come to Texas and their dad wants them to come to Texas. They just feel like Texas is making that a much more difficult decision than it should be.

    I'm more of a "shit or get off the pot" guy, but I understand where they're coming from. If they were to commit now, they could join Jalen Milroe in making this a monster class and increasing the possibility of big success on the 40 Acres. There are no sure things in life. As suggested, I doubt even Saban will still be at Bama in 4 or 5 years.

    If they announce in June..is that still enough time to recruit for 2021?  BTW are they bell cows?

     

  15. 55 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

    Marginally recruiting related:


    Charlie Strong will be taking a defensive analyst job with the Crimson Tide, AL.com confirmed after ESPN reported it first Tuesday morning.

    sure he was tired of buying then selling homes..  

     

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