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Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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What's hilarious is if they try to pass enforcement off to the conferences, which it appears is one of the strategies to avoid antitrust. Yes, the Big 10 and the SEC are going to bring the hammer to Ohio State and Georgia respectively. That's going to happen. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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When you say afraid, I'm not sure what you mean. The House settlement is absolutely designed to help cap NIL wages, particularly wages through collectives that weren't ever designed to be legitimate marketing NILs, but are pretty much poorly disguised pay for play. If they're disguised at all. I also think the settlement cap is doomed to fail, but that's absolutely the intent. And the party line right now is that schools are going to abide by that. There's not even accurate reporting going on about how much is being spent. Ohio State did not have a payroll of $20 million last year. But because Bjork said it as an offhand remark, that's what people have gone with as if he wrote it on stone tablets as he came down from Mt. Sinai. Then you have Bohls throwing out $35-40 million as the payroll for Texas this year, and every swinging dick is quoting "the Houston Chronicle says UT will pay its roster $35-40 million in 2025." Because that's how it works. It's not about the truth. It's about what you can put in print without getting in trouble. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Well, I feel like I said it would. We're going to stick to the cap - at least in the short term - but the idea that other college programs across the country were, is and was always ridiculous. That's not how markets work. That's not how human behavior works. You get a small cabal, sure. A small group can stick to their guns. But you get as many separate entities (with their own herd of wealthy cats to manage) as there are in college football, there's no chance they're able to stick to some kind of artificial ceiling on wages. Then it's the way it's always been. There's a bar in Buffalo, NY - or at least there used to be - called Breaking the Seal. They'd have happy hours where drinks were discounted right up to the time someone had to go to the bathroom. Not sure exactly how the rules worked. But of course once that first person goes, everyone goes. That's how this stuff is going to be. Once it's obvious that first program goes over the cap, a bunch of other schools are going to do it. Then we see how the enforcement works. Is there any punishment? How is guilt determined? How quickly is punishment administered? How painful is it? An example is going to have to be set. If no example is set in a somewhat timely period I hope as an institution we acknowledge that. There are all kinds of behaviors the administration turns a blind eye to because that's simply the price of doing business. I have confidence that's how it will be here. But again, it's now July 1. The House settlement just came down. We're halfway through the recruiting cycle. The ink isn't even dry on the settlement. There's a long ways to go. Jumping to conclusions because of a week of hard knocks on guys we never led on, with seemingly bad news to come for a few guys, is not the way to go, IMO. Let's see how it plays out at least through this recruiting cycle. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Ha! I won a bunch of high school debates with that argument. Back in the early 80s high school kids weren't ready to make counter arguments. Made one girl break down in tears. The amount of spending on college athletes is entirely dependent on how much ego wealthy alums have tied up in seeing their alma mater be successful. Or in the case of Larry Ellison, apparently his wife's alma mater. Texas isn't going to be able to force other schools to spend money they don't have unless the enforcement arm of the House settlement is actually effective. My bet is that it's not effective for any number of reasons and the spending cap becomes a mirage. It will be interesting to see how schools like Texas respond. Right now the sales pitch is you can make more in Austin with legitimate NILs than you can anywhere else because of the size of the city and no sports team, plus the Longhorn national brand. I'm not saying that's wrong, but if an extremely wealthy person from another school wants to spend a decent portion of their wealth on college athletics, that's going to trump Austin's potential NIL market. But maybe the House settlement sticks. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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My biggest short term fear is that Texas toes the line with the spending cap while other programs do not, waiting for the enforcement arm to make an example of someone. If that doesn't happen, or if the example is a slap on the wrist, I hope Texas is competitive with the prevailing salary structure to the extent they can still pursue national championships. But it's all so early now. No reason to hyperventilate at this point. But someone is not going to heed the House settlement caps in some way, and that someone isn't likely to be Texas. So we'll see what happens from there. -
Bill Yeoman should get more credit for the triple option with his veer than he does.
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Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Wrong about what? We (as in me) are comparing the Gulf Coast to Lake Michigan. I'm not wrong about that comparison at all. However, it's not going to be a factor, so there is that. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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The only reason to be negative about recruiting or the state of the program right now is because you view life with the worst of expectations to psychologically protect yourself from disappointment, or you’re a troll who likes to wind people up. Or you’re just ignorant and lack any sort of perspective. The reason to follow recruiting closely for me is in part so I have some sort of realistic expectation for our chances of landing some of these kids. There’s not a single target that’s gone a different path than Texas that I’m surprised by. Part of that is because I probably follow recruiting a little too obsessively, but for anyone posting regularly on this thread, that describes you, too. The KJ Edwards commitment felt like it came out of nowhere. The rest of them I felt like I had a good idea they were going to go the way they went. Texas is in great shape. I have followed Texas recruiting in times where the head coach was so scared of rejection, and loved to brag how often he hit on all his targets, that he was scared to death of going after prospects where the chances of landing them was 50/50. These guys have their big boy pants on. Plus, in an era where football recruiting is more transactional than it ever has been, if the budget isn’t there for a player, it’s going to impact our chances considerably. I recently asked a guy in the industry how often Texas loses a recruitment where UT is the highest bidder, and he said in his estimation it was about 1 out of 10. We’re still in June. We have a great recruiting class forming. We have more studs ready to commit. We rarely lose flips to other schools (although we’re not invulnerable to it). We regularly flip kids from other schools to Texas. How the season unfolds will create more opportunities in recruiting. The class we sign in December is going to be outstanding. We’re in a good place right now. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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I don’t understand making this comparison. You’re comparing OOS signees in previous classes to a class that still has months to go. Also, when I think of the change in recruiting, I’m not thinking about how many are being signed. I’m thinking about how many are being brought in on official visits. The difference between national recruiting versus in state recruiting is that traditionally we could expect to hit at a much higher rate of our instate targets, all other things being equal. All things were not equal quite often, but nonetheless over a long enough period of time Texas did quite well with instate recruiting. I don’t personally have a good grasp on how transactional football recruiting is these days. I know it’s a huge factor, but how often is Texas losing recruiting battles when we’re the highest bidder? I question whether anyone has good data on that. Someone deep on the inside could make some guesses, but a lot of that is proprietary information that agents and other programs have a lot of agendas that dissuade them from being completely authentic, just as I’m sure the bidding on UT’s part isn’t exactly going to be an open book. But regardless of how many out of state players Texas signs, there’s still been a sea change in the effort being put into national recruiting. That’s seen in the number of offers, and the number of official visits, especially when comparing the ratio of out of state versus in state in this year versus the history of Texas recruiting. It’s a massive difference this year. It’s also seen in how often the staff is visiting out of state high schools. I have no idea how to measure that. I just know I’ve never seen the Texas staff make this many visits to out of state high schools in my lifetime. That kind of effort isn’t about the current recruiting class. That’s a systemic shift meant to signal to the rest of the country, Texas is interested in your players, whether that’s a message being sent to players, high school coaches, trainers, or agents. In years past a different message would be sent by national recruiting efforts. If you’re not from Texas, you better be really talented at a position of need that we can’t fill adequately in state, or you better love Texas so much for whatever reason that there’s already a good shot you’re going to say yes if Texas recruits you. That is not what is going on now. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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At some point you need to pull the trigger on bodies. You don't want to miss in your evaluation. But it's a problem to have too few, too. I guess with the portal there's always that path, but we haven't gone that route yet. But one of the primary issues at Texas between Mackovic and Flood was not having enough bodies. We're going to be entering that territory again soon. I know I sound like I'm veering towards alarmist, but I don't feel that way. I feel like they're going to address it by December and I'm interested to see what that path looks like. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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I don't know. The last 3 years have been pretty awesome. I'm a lot more calm this year than I was last year. I figure everything is going to work out just fine. No reason to go into conniptions in June - or bask in recruiting glory, either. I'd rather they say yes to us than yes to someone else, but it's all going to work out either way. I know this. There's not another program fans of other teams in college football dread going against in recruiting more than Texas. Not that they can't win any of the battles, but right now we be scary. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Gerry was saying he didn't think there's a way Texas would get all of Lee, Ojo, and Turntine, but they need to get at least two of them to make this a great OL class. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Except for worrying about holding on to the ones we've got, and hoping to flip the ones we don't. But you did say "some". -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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So what? Orgeron, Chizik, and Coker were all bad head coaching hires. Yes, they won national championships, but that doesn't make them a good hire. Charlie Strong and Tom Herman were bad coaching hires, but they didn't win national championships. Miami has never had any sustained success after Coker's first 3 seasons. Mentioning Orgeron and Miles in the same sentence is laughable. I'm not a huge Les Miles fan, but the guy could coach circles around Orgeron in terms of how to run a program. He's a bit of a clown, but neither he nor Fisher are in the same class as the others you mentioned. Switzer was a great college head football coach. I mean, Satan is a great head of the land of eternal damnation, so I'm not exactly trying to stick up for the guy. But putting him in this category is completely ignoring how well he ran the OU program, even if he is a lying, cheating, amoral son of a bitch. And the problem with the Dallas Cowboys isn't their head coach anyway. No one is going to be able to succeed there under the current ownership. IMO including Switzer is a complete non sequitur if we're going to discuss Mack Brown's impact on Texas football for the decade after he left. I find blaming Mack Brown for how bare he left the cupboard as the source of UT's ills following his departure as silly. As Sarkisian has said plenty of times, when he came to Texas the problem wasn't the talent. It was the culture. Not that the talent couldn't be upgraded, and he has, but the culture was terrible. Neither Charlie Strong nor Tom Herman knew how to build a program for sustained success. Neither do Orgeron, Chizik, or Coker, even though those 3 won national championships. Fisher and Miles aren't necessarily wizards at it, but they at least showed some sustained success with their own players over a long enough period of time I don't like including them in this list. At this point I'm convinced Sarkisian does. And he's been given the tools to succeed. I don't know if Sarkisian would have been this successful if the current version of Sarkisian could have been hired instead of Charlie Strong. This version wasn't available then anyway. He still had more fuck ups to go through. But I think he would have been. -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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I'm unconvinced Jimbo Fisher or Les Miles are bad coaches. I don't think either of them are "great" coaches. But you can't seriously put them in the same category as Charlie Strong and Tom Herman. I would put Lloyd Carr and Phil Fulmer in that category as well, since we seem to be limiting it to national championship winning coaches. Then there's Gene Chizik with the Cam Newton effect. Larry Coker I agree with. -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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I'm not sure what we're disagreeing about. Sure, very talented teams win in spite of shitty coaching. But programs don't succeed year after year unless the coach has something going for him. Larry Coker won a national championship with one of the best college football teams of all time. He finished in the top 5 his first 3 years as a coach. Does that make him a great coach? What I'm saying is that Charlie Strong and Tom Herman wouldn't have ultimately succeeded at Texas regardless of the talent level they inherited. They were bad coaching hires. If anything, I'm grateful both of their tenures were as short as they were. The last thing I'd wish for us as a fan base is to put up with more years with either Charlie Strong or Tom Herman because they inherited more talent. From that perspective Mack Brown did us a favor. Blaming Mack Brown for what transpired after him is missing the mark, IMO. Other than cock blocking us from hiring Saban. That I absolutely blame him for. Him and Joe Jamail and Deloss Dodds, among others. So that counts, if we want to go that route. -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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That's not what sets a program up for failure for a decade. Charlie Strong was handed a Cadillac from head coach Willie Taggart at USF and went 10-2 in his first year. Then he went 7-6 and 4-8 and was fired. Someone convince me Charlie Strong would have had different results if he'd been handed a more talented team at Texas. Go ahead. The problem wasn't Mack Brown. The problem was Charlie Strong. He was a bad hire. So was Tom Herman. Unless Mack Brown had some input into those hires, he's not responsible for their failures. It doesn't matter the talent on the team. A coach who is a poor fit is going to have poor results regardless of any other factor. A great coach who is a great fit is going to get great results regardless of the handicaps. You have to hire the right coach. That's the most important thing. The second most important thing is being able to keep him once you find him. -
Texas A&M Recruiting 2026: The World's Drunkest Elk
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A&M beats Texas on another one! Oh my gosh! What are we going to do? I hope our OL class turns out okay! Maybe Krempin scares Turntine off from A&M. I sure hope so! Otherwise we have no chance against this mighty recruiting juggernaut Elko is building. -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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Perhaps you're not aware of the dimensions of the average Samoan? -
Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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BTW, Corpus Christi is an hour closer to Austin than Galveston is. So there. Not that Corpus Christi is exactly paradise or will remind anyone of Hawaii, either, but the water isn't brown. -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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Well, any coaching weakness other than having Vince Young take a direct snap under center and try to alter his throwing motion. That was a pretty big coaching weakness. He might have won the national championship in 2004 if not for that. -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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Not really. He had no say in the hiring of Charlie Strong or Tom Herman. Those guys were going to fail regardless. That's not on Mack Brown. Unless you're saying he's the reason Saban wasn't able to take the job. Because while he wasn't the only reason, he was the biggest. -
Mack Brown Tarheel Football: The Orange Slice Boogaloo
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And then he acted like he'd solved college football. He got lazy on the recruiting trail. He refused to give high school assistants gas money to bring their players to Austin at a time when other schools were paying them $500 to $1000. Never mind trainers and other hanger ons. He wouldn't let his assistants leave the Austin area during the football season, so the only high schools they could visit were in the Hill Country, when all the talent is in DFW and Houston. He told Muschamp he was stepping down after the 2009 season and then didn't. He cock blocked Saban, making sure he didn't resign until after Saban signed the contract for Alabama that had been sitting on his desk unsigned. At a time when programs were first starting to pay players and their families for unlimited "unofficial" visits Mack refused to extend any offers until summer camps. Then he'd take early bread as part of his strategy to build momentum. Then he'd take bread at the end of the recruiting cycle because he'd already lost on a lot of top targets. Then the recruiting services would overrate the players Texas was taking because of the name. You give him credit for the national championship. Heck, he came close to winning two if not for Colt's injury. But the truth is he and Greg Davis almost successfully ruined Vince Young by trying to alter his throwing motion and have him line up under center virtually every snap. It wasn't until after the Missouri game in 2004 - after that embarrassing shutout to OU - and the uninspired play versus the Tigers, that Ray Seals, VY's high school coach, came to Austin and read Mack Brown the riot act for not putting VY in the shotgun and running zone read. So yes, Mack Brown gets the credit. He should. But in many ways he succeeded in spite of himself. The real credit from me isn't the national championship or the 10 win seasons or the bowl victories. It was rescuing Texas football from an institutional apathy. Because I'm not sure someone other than Mack Brown and his particular set of gifts could have done it nearly as well. This was a guy who convinced the North Carolina faithful to pony up for what at the time was the Taj Mahal of athletic centers, at North Carolina of all places, while he was going 1-10 for two consecutive seasons to start his tenure. There is no question the guy could sell ice to the Eskimos.- 3808 replies
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Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Boulevard of Broken Bagmen
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No one compared Hawaii to Galveston. I compared the Gulf Coast to Lake Michigan. And I wasn't thinking of Galveston when I said that.
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