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GSU&UT

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  1. If Bernie loses the nomination because he doesn't have the plurality of candidates at the convention then some people may be angry and sit out, I would not do this and still vote. If Bernie is clearly leading in delegates and is not nominated then I have a LOT more reason to sit out. I think the DNC is smart enough to not tempt fate if the latter is the case.
  2. You've come in here several times to make the same point and we've provided data that disproves the trend you believe is happening. You're trying to extrapolate one result thus far in a super white state to say that Bernie has no chance while he just took the lead in the last national poll that dropped today, one where he gained support from black voters. If he gets destroyed on Super Tuesday then you have reason to gloat, it doesn't look to be the case now and I can tell you for a fact that there is no other candidate who has anywhere close to the number of canvassers that Bernie has.
  3. And have you literally looked at any polling on this? Biden just shed a crap load of support that went to Bernie and Bloomberg. Bloomberg may start rising to become second in the polls but he has almost no real ground game, at least no where near the amount of volunteers that will show up and canvas for Bernie. Bernie enters the the convention with the lead in delegates but not a majority. Someone else gets the nomination due to super-delegates on the second ballot. Young people literally have no reason to trust the Democratic party ever again and the GOP holds onto the presidency for several cycles.
  4. Cool man, you don't have to post that every day. We know that's your opinion. The DNC will then probably not recover for several election cycles if they clearly screw Bernie out of the nomination.
  5. Reminder that those aren't the minorities that count, it's the minorities in the deep south in solid Red states that count.
  6. The narrative has quickly shifted from "A socialist will never be the nominee" to "He can't beat Trump because he isn't getting enough turnout" while he is rising in national polls. Almost like you all should get together behind a centrist to defeat him.
  7. lol at quoting that account ITT that has shit on Bernie since 2016.
  8. Right, I'm skeptical too but he has declared he will literally hold rallies (yes almost like Trump OMG) in states where senators are opposed to his expansion, even Democratic senators. This is why I think the party heads have been so vocal against him, him basically shitting on sitting democratic senators isn't a good look because he does not care about their re-election chances. I'm all for it and I honestly think it will, at the very least, help drive this conversation into something that people internalize and accept as a given rather than some crazy socialist agenda.
  9. Who says Bernie won't compromise? The idea is that you don't do so until you are forced, everyone is making predictions about the future before we've even gotten to the second state in this presidential primary cycle. You are also completely ignoring all the grassroots social movements that have been successful in this country that have driven change that is literally outlined in the tweet thread I posted. If it doesn't work, then my point is we will have at least tried to go through a process where we drive social change through a movement rather than hoping a few hundred politicians cast the right vote.
  10. Relevant,
  11. How many disenfranchised and underrepresented are turning on MSNBC right now, seeing this, and wanting to hear every single detail of Bernie's M4A bill? Nina, Bernie, and so many on his campaign are using these talking points because the whole idea is to drive the Democratic party away from a decades slip to the right in terms of how we raise taxes, fight inequality, racial justice, etc. Maybe Bernie will get slaughtered if he wins and runs a similar re-election campaign because the average voter will think he lied, but his whole idea is to try and motivate people to get involved in the political process and completely change it. We'll see if he's right or not, but by god he is going to try.
  12. Holy shit, the whole point is to move the Overton Window, I don't personally think anything close to a real M4A passes during a two-term Bernie presidency. I want someone to push as literally as hard as possible to make it happen to get people to start understand that this should be the norm and is something that all politicians will eventually have to truly support at a minimum. It's my dream that my daughter doesn't have to deal with the healthcare industry in the way I did at some point in her life, it starts now.
  13. Good lord, the same could be said for any candidate's big platform. What is Nina supposed to say to make you feel better? This is literally her going on TV to drive enthusiasm, not turn into a wonk.
  14. Bernie has already said that we'd fund M4A by a tax everyone pays if that's what you're referring to.
  15. @bad_teammate I'm all in for Nina Turner to be the VP. I know it could be awful given Bernie's age and her inexperience in national politics (I think she only served on the Ohio House of Reps) but I don't want a situation where Bernie's old ass gets sick and immobilized and a center-left VP does absolutely nothing to carry on his message of a revolution.
  16. No one can win then. Have you taken a look at any polls and who all the other non-Bernie candidates poll well with? None of them have the base that Bernie does. It was one caucus in a state that's turning more red, you're being hyperbolic by comparing it to 12 years ago.
  17. Strong grandpa and grandma energy.
  18. It sounds like the Pete bump is real from scrolling through Twitter but there is a small army of Bernie volunteers that are hyper-motivated and are knocking on insane numbers of doors. If Bernie can get the nomination it will be crazy to see the numbers of people that will come out to canvas.
  19. That was unfuckingreal. UNC probably going to get blown out in OT now
  20. I bet that will work really well in the mid-west states as well. They all hate each other.
  21. Thanks for the info, just going to be pissed if Pete somehow pulls NH off without a clear path in the rest of the US. Even if Bernie wins by only a couple points I'll be nervous.
  22. @bad_teammate You're more in-tune with the volunteering base of Bernie. Pete doesn't have anywhere near the number of offices in New Hampshire as he did in Iowa right? Trying to get an answer on Twitter, but I'm wondering how many more volunteers are canvasing for Bernie in NH vs the other candidates as opposed to Iowa where Pete had a huge base by spending so much money.
  23. Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.
  24. Because they smartly require you to actually have a proper number of donors, he was trying to get the rules changed and I thought he was going to be on the stage tonight but lots of DNC members rightfully complained considering all the other candidates who've dropped out missed debates.
  25. lmao, dude he's running ads and that's it. He has like zero actual grassroots support and all he'll do is take votes from Biden, Pete, and Amy.
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