I was arguing about success relative to resources. Leach has more success relative to what one would expect based on WSU resources. Ditto Snyder at KSU. Saban won at LSU and Bama but not at MSU. Even Mack won once with the resources available by virtue of being at Texas. Ole Miss, aggy, and a number of other programs are happy to do whatever they can to win. Those schools haven’t. Cheating isn’t going to win a title at Rutgers, and not cheating didn’t stop Texas in 05. I never said we were a superheavyweight under Mack. I said we could be under Herman. If you disagree that Snyder, e.g., made a game-changing difference in the level of success at his school, I don’t know that any argument I could offer will change your mind. My fundamental point is that lack of a conscience may play (especially in the short term) in on-field success, but it is neither necessary nor sufficient to win. I offered two alternate factors, namely school resources and HFC.