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Texas Fight

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  1. How do you know Camp Mystic leadership was not awake at 1am or actively monitoring? Mo ranch isn’t even in the same river as Mystic. Miles apart.
  2. They were aware and executing their evacuation plan. Do you not agree?
  3. Pot O Gold Christian COMFORT, Texas — On July 17, 1987, along the Guadalupe River near Comfort, Texas, rescuers worked to airlift teenagers trapped in trees after a wall of water washed them away. It happened when a caravan of buses attempted to escape from a church camp through a low water crossing after an overnight storm. When their bus stalled, they formed a human chain to try and walk out, only to have a wall of water scatter them into the raging river.
  4. Strange? This camp was obviously not being complacent.
  5. These kids were in a bus trying to evacuate from a flood situation. They died while the bus drove them away to a presumed safe location.
  6. So, you didn’t really care that much? Your reaction on what you would do otherwise doesn’t seem to match your desire for any due diligence. You can’t have it both ways. I mean, you knew this camp was in a flood plain, no? You can’t see where the cabins are, no? Any moron can see this coming 100 miles away, no?
  7. Took them about 10 years, but looks like the settled as a group (deceased and injured) for $2.1mm total to share. After attorney fees/contingency, not a lot.
  8. I believe each of the Uvalde families took $2,000,000 each. You thinking of something like that? https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/23/us/uvalde-school-shooting-settlement
  9. I agree with the concept here. Ive asked a few times on these threads how often the buildings on the camps flood? When was the last time? Do you know? The buildings and the owners are there 24/7/365. This should be known to them. If it has occured before, what have they done about it. On the other hand, if the buildings have never flooded or water has never risen that high, I think there is a different evaluation.
  10. Agreed this entire tragedy is not one side or the other. But people are making it such. It’s not just Perkins. People on this thread/topic are doing it. Making this event (flooding) about race, white privilege, rich, Christian, conservative, etc…. as evidence, very very little judgment or shaming on those families in RVs, tents or trailer parks.
  11. Here is one from Ray Nagin that seems racist. He was re-elected after this. In response to a question at a town hall meeting in October 2005, Nagin said: "I can see in your eyes, you want to know, '[h]ow do I take advantage of this incredible opportunity? How do I make sure New Orleans is not overrun with Mexican workers?'"[26] Some Hispanic groups, including the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, criticized Nagin's statement,[27] although those attending the town hall meeting reportedly applauded—many believing jobs should first go to locals displaced by the hurricane.
  12. Ok. So you are saying it’s ok for poor, minority kids to live in New Orleans below sea level and support the government from withholding future support there? I’m not sure we have much more to debate on.
  13. Which of those are the racist quotes? Dennis Hasterat is a deadbeat pedo. 100%. But exactly what is wrong with his quote? Seems like the majority of folks on here are asking the exact same thing? Why would ever build (or rebuild) in a flood plain after something so devastating?
  14. Is New Orleans still below sea level? Is it still in the Mississippi River flood plain?
  15. Where did they rebuild New Orleans?
  16. The Camp Mystic Cypress Creek camp did not flood at all. That is the camp where the kids were evacuated to during the flood.
  17. Yeah. Here are some facts. But let’s not let those get in the way…. On Friday, August 26, the National Hurricane Center predicted for the first time that Katrina would become a Category 4storm, and thus exceed the design limits of the New Orleans levees. Map of Louisiana parishes eligible for Category B assistance due to September 27 authorization On Saturday, August 27, President Bush declared a state of emergency under the authority of the Stafford Act for the inland parishes of Louisiana.[6] The next day, Sunday, August 28, Katrina became a Category 4 hurricane[7] and eventually evolved into a Category 5 storm the very same day, with winds blowing at about 175 mph (280 km/h).[8] New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin decided not to declare a mandatory evacuation of the city, and instead opened up the Superdome to those who couldn't leave the city.[9] 550 National Guard troops were stationed inside the Superdome to screen evacuees for weapons.[10] At that point, it was known that the strength of the hurricane would almost certainly exceed the levees' design capacity, and therefore the possibility for major flooding was real. If the levees did fail, people throughout the city would find it very difficult to obtain food, water, and supplies in general. If authorities had wanted to preposition food, the Superdome would have been a logical place, as the population knew it was a designated central location. The Louisiana National Guard delivered enough food for 15,000 people for 3 days. On that same day, President Bush designated six counties of Alabama [11] and eleven in Mississippi [12] as eligible for assistance. On Monday, August 29, at 6:00 am local time, Katrina made landfall. The Louisiana National Guard had called almost 3,500 of its members to state active duty as of 7 a.m. Army Lieutenant Colonel Pete Schneider reported a successful evacuation from the city, crediting the Louisiana Guard's partners in neighboring states for carrying out "a coordinated effort" that incorporated lessons learned from past evacuations. Schneider said during an interview today with Fox News the state stood ready to house evacuees at the Superdome "for as long as it takes", reporting that although the massive structure's protective lining tore in the hurricane's Category 4 winds, the roof itself appears to be intact.[13] Louisiana has 65 percent of its troops available for state missions; Mississippi, 60 percent; Alabama, 77 percent; and Florida, 74 percent.[14] USS Bataan performed Louisiana relief operations. USS Bataan was positioned near New Orleans prior to Katrina making landfall, and began relief operations on August 30. The next day, Tuesday, August 30, An estimated 7,500 National Guard troops from Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi were on duty, supporting civil authorities, distributing generators, providing medical care, and setting up shelters for displaced residents. As of 8 a.m., almost 3,800 Louisiana Army and Air Guard members were on duty to remove debris, provide security and shelter, distribute water, food and ice, and offer medical and law-enforcement support. The Louisiana Guard was coordinating with Florida, Georgia and Texas to secure two UH-60 Black Hawk and five CH-47 Chinook helicopters to support their operations. In Mississippi, more than 1,900 Guard troops were providing similar support, basing their operations at Camp Shelby. In Florida, more than 700 Florida Guard members were on active duty.[15] Landing craft heads to Louisiana from USS Bataan HSV-2 Swift operated with USS Bataan. On August 31, the number of military units were on duty in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida rose to almost 8,300. Joint Task Force Katrina set up at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, as the Defense Department's focal point to support FEMA's relief efforts.[16]
  18. He is an idiot and overly zealous religious fanatic, but that quote doesn’t even come close to targeting black or Hispanic people. Not even close. Unless you are saying only and all black and Hispanic people have orgies, indulge in recreational drugs, and are drunks. Sounds more like people in Steiner Ranch or Circle C than citizens of New Orleans.
  19. Are you imagining that or do you have specific quotes from specific people?
  20. Say what? The amount of effort, money, attention, etc… that went into searching and helping New Orleans during Katrina is unprecedented. Even after the fact. This is what she believes though: Perkins added, "It's not to say that we don't want the girls to be found, whatever girls that are missing… but you best believe, especially in today's political climate, if this were a group of Hispanic girls….this would not be getting this type of coverage that they're getting. No one would give a f--k." "They want you to have sympathy for these people. They want to get out of your bed and to come out of your home and to go find these people and to donate your money to go to find these people," Perkins said in the video.
  21. Maybe someone else knows? How often have these buildings cabins/buildings flooded?
  22. If the camp is square in the flood plain, I assume the cabins are flooded all of the time. The family has owned it since 1976. Anyone know how often these buildings were flooded?
  23. You are out of line posting shit like that. Telling someone to commit suicide for not answering a question from a reporter? Get a grip. What does the city manager of Kerrville, TX have to do with a camp located in a different town (Hunt)?
  24. Where are you seeing this notification? Just word of mouth or has something been officially released.
  25. This is just completely made up.
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