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Thank you Inka. Call me when you plan on coming out.
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I believe that your response is reasonable and I tend to agree with you. I made my assertion based on what I saw personally at the camp. RIP to the kids and Mr. Eastland. This whole disaster is depressing and sad as hell. Hook'em.
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We are not that far away on agreeing. I am surprised that anyone survived at the camp. I think that Mr. Eastland (RIP) might have waited too long to warn the campers in that one cabin, but we all have been guilty of ignoring tornado watches/warnings and flood watches/warnings. If you look at Camp La Junta, that camp was utterly destroyed, worse than the damage at Camp Mystic, yet no one died at La Junta to my knowledge. I guess because they had more warning and were further downstream? I have lots of questions. Again, I would invite you to come and see for yourself, as Squish Mitten has done - you really can't describe the destruction here. Peace C-Man.
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I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. But, I have seen the unimaginable destruction in this area. Boulders and rock the size of full size trucks, cypress and pecan trees that were 30' around and 30-40' tall reduced to splinters. All of this debris was rolling in the river - which was an estimated 35-40' high. Again, look at the map of Camp Mystic. They Bubble cabin was on an island between the river and Cypress creek. The river rose so fast, even if the Bubble cabin kids/counselors had escaped from the cabin, Hwy 39 was also under a shit ton of water and debris. How in the hell would they have left the area? One side is a wall of limestone and the other side was Hwy 39, which was under water. I would encourage you to visit once things have settled down and you will see for yourself what happened here. Agree with you that Camp Mystic should have had some sort of evacuation plan, if they didn't have one. Our neighborhood lost one of the campers (Rene S.) and one of our friends lost their grandson. Improvements in evacuation/alarms/warnings must be installed for the future. As a resident of Kerr County, the whole thing is just sad and heartbreaking. Peace and Hook 'em.
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Rest in peace Ella.
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I agree flood alarms along the river probably would have helped people downstream from Hunt/Ingram evacuate. The Camp Mystic kids, I am not so sure. If you look at the cabins map at Camp Mystic, the cabins are between the Guadalupe River and Cypress Creek, essentially on an island. IMO, those kids/counselors were doomed when they went to bed that night. This is a report from Charlie Hastings, who is the Kerr County engineer: Flood Timeline at the river gauge, which is 10 miles down stream from the south fork of the Guadalupe River: July 4th Midnight - 53 gallons/second Rained 3 hours straight 3 am - 264 gal/sec 3:30 am - 125,000 gal/sec 4 am - 950,000 gal/sec In comparison, Niagara Falls flows 75,750 gal/sec. The river rose as high as 55' in places. For those familiar with the headwaters of the two forks of the Guadalupe, the south fork is solid rock, basically concrete. That is where 90% of the rain fell. It was a tsunami flowing on a non-porous substrate. A ton of water in a short amount of time. A good friend of mine works as security for the Bass family ranch in the Hunt area. At midnight, he was parked under the Hunt Store canopy watching the river and decide to drive home, which is behind the Hunt Store. He said that he didn't observe anything out of the ordinary. He said at 3:30, he and his wife woke up to water in their home. No one was expecting this around here.
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Yes sir. My family and I tear up every time we drive to Kerrville from Ingram, which is every day. From the Ingram dam to past Hunt looks like a war zone.
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Yes. The trees on the right side of the road are no more.
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She hightailed it after the manager of the RV park ran her off. She had paper license plates.
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The dams are still there. Not much else. Lots of debris that will eventually be cleared out.
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If any of you are in the area, and when things slow down around here, please drive Hwy 39 to the area known as Shumacher's crossing, which is right before you get to the town of Hunt. The Guadalupe River cut a swath of destruction north of this area 1/4th of a mile wide. Looking at the pathway is both awesome and terrifying. There is nothing left in this pathway, no trees, homes, nothing - just rock and debris. There used to be a forest and homes here. It is wiped clean. 30' of water 1/4th of a mile wide.
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Now that clean up has started and search teams are winding down (still 3 more people to find), I have made some personal observations (awesome and disgusting) from the last two weeks: Awesome - * 12,000 volunteers hat either showed up/live in Kerr County that helped with SAR, feeding, giving food, shelter, supplies, equipment, money, love, prayers to anyone in need. Most all volunteered their time free of charge. Shout out to Acuna SAR, Czech Republic SAR, the many first responders from Texas and the US. Kerr County appreciates and loves all of you! * My neighbors Chris & Jennifer, who assisted the Parisher family after their home was demolished and they would up close to our neighborhood's front gate. Aaron Parsley, who was in the home with his family, wrote a story in Texas Monthly that is an outstanding read. Be forewarned, you will cry as you read it. * Mercy Chefs. What an organization. Preparing 4-5000 meals a day for first responders and anyone in need. True heroes and still here. * My friends Tim & Cindy. Tim called me at 6 am on the 4th and told me the situation (we had no idea of the destruction on the morning of the 4th) and immediately started setting up City West church in Ingram with donated food and drinks for anyone that needed it. He told the pastor of the church (more about this a-hole later and we do not go to church here!) that we are going to take over his building and that is where first responders/Mercy Chefs set up shop. Cindy assisted Tim with Mercy Chefs and the Ingram Tom Moore HS coaching staff to deliver meals/water/supplies to camps in Hunt and first responders. And still are at the time of this writing. * Surly Response. Thank you @Homesickhorn, @InkaUtexas, @BillyGoatHill, @BurntEyes, @TexasEd, @TxEx84 and @tejas60 for reaching out and helping. * My new friend, JP Gonzalez, who is principle engineer for Rackspace Technology. JP was in Centerpoint Saturday sharpening chainsaws for free with his family and I am fortunate to know good people like him and his wife. * HEB, James Avery Charities (Thank you Paula and Margaret), Walmart, Mary's and Rita's Tacos, McDonalds, Chick Fil A, 323 Bakery, Barreras Tacos, Culvers and countless others in providing donations of money and food for everyone. Disgusting - * The pastor (Butthead) and his secretary (Goblin) from City West Church. Two of the sorriest humans that I have ever met. They reluctantly opened their huge facility to our team on the 4th. Also, the secretary turned away people that had dire needs for shelter/food/supplies/money. Our team was able to help the majority that she turned away with what they needed. She had no compassion and has no heart - FUCK HER! The pastor (not a true pastor of God) started hoarding gift cards/money that was supposed to go to people in need - FUCK YOU TOO! Both will face a reckoning when they meet their God - I pity their souls, but seriously - FUCK both of them. * The lady that came by the supply/food/water area three days straight gathering everything that she could carry to resell on Ebay. We had lots of people that had serious needs and she is taking every toothbrush (80+) and toothpaste (more than 100 tubes), 100s of diapers, trash bags full of everything! Holy shit! We finally ran her off, but I bet she was grifting somewhere else. FUCK that puta! * The lady at a mobile home park that was sitting in front of a damaged mobile home. When people sked what she needed, she replied "I have a Venmo". After dozens of people donated to her, come to find out she was not a resident of the park and didn't experience any destruction of her property. She was just taking advantage of the generosity of others. FUCK her also. I understand that there will always be those that take advantage of others in a time of crisis. Outside of these examples, I saw way more awesome than disgusting and we called out the disgusting when we saw it. Thank you all again. WKH
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Thank you @TexasEd & @TxEx84 for helping clear debris at Centerpoint and Rio Robles. Kerr County appreciates what you did and your big hearts.
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We have plenty of PPE at City West, so no need to buy anything when we can supply you for free. We have gloves, ear plugs, etc for those that need them for Saturday. Thank you.
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I will meet y’all at the VFD at 8:00 and bring water, sports drinks, Liquid IV, insect repellent, extra gloves, cold water towels. Looking forward to meeting everyone and thank you!
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I just might. Kind of busy now with, you know, a flood. Still raining at this time.
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As I am writing this, it is raining again - already 3" in the rain gauge. Hunt/Ingram responders/helpers evacuated, Walmart and HEB closed, everyone asked to stay home. I understand the politics of this, but we ares till finding the dead and frankly, we don't have time to point fingers right now. There are too many people with real needs, black, white, brown. No one gives a damn, we are just trying to fill needs. When you see burly men out searching for the dead and they find a 6 month old baby that has been dead for several days and these men are broken and crying by what they have seen - that is what we care about now. When you have single moms come to our warehouse and need diapers and wipes for their baby and ask to take 5-10 diapers because they know there are others that need - that is what we care about now. By the way, we gave her several boxes of supplies - we have plenty. I see a community that is caring for their own - thousands of people locally, nationally and other countries. The crew at Mercy Chefs told us that they have never see a response like this to a disaster. I thank God for all the help and for the ability to help my fellow west Kerr neighbors. WKH
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Your take is spot on.
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I promised @TexasEd that I would get the name of the Centerpoint Fire Dept chief and I will. About to head out to City West today and help with food delivery and will stop by Ingram Fire Dept and ask if they know the cell for the chief. For those that volunteer, Blind Faith Foundation will feed everyone when that time comes. Thank you in advance! WKH
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Haha. I bet my grandparents knew your aunt. They lived off of Stanford St in a small cracker box home. The Jesus painting - would have scared the piss out of little West Kerr Horn! With names like your dad's extended family, we may be related - some of the names in our family - Notie, Helon, Nona, Elbert. Poor West Texas folks that probably saw a name on a product somewhere and said, "This sounds like a good name".
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Shout out to @tejas60 for helping us take food out to Hunt Volunteer Fire Dept today. Thank you Tejas60!
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Not going to refute a lot of what has been said, some of it is true and some of it is speculation. The racial make up of the county (non scientific, but based on observation) is probably about 50/50 White/Hispanic, with a few African American and Asian. Most of my friends are Hispanic. In every city, you have racist POS and we have some here. Most everyone here gets along in my view.
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My grandparents lived in Big Spring over by Howard College. My uncle & aunt and their two kids currently live there.
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I grew up in small town West Texas (Snyder) and have lived in Austin (7years) and DFW (38 years). As a youngster, we came down to Kerr county, Kingsland, Christoval, Leakey and Camp Wood to camp and fish. Good times. When retirement talk between my wife and I started, I told her I had a place in mind. We have lived here for 3 years. Absolutely love it. I like that we have dark skies and I can see the stars at night. I like that I don’t hear planes, trains and sirens at night. It took me a couple of months to get used to sleeping where it was so quiet. Another adjustment is to not being in a hurry and slow down, not be insistent. No one is in much of a hurry here. My friends here are a motley crew: the owner of a food truck/ nonprofit food bank, a semi-retired security guard and his wife that moved here from Northern California, a Kerr County native that works in construction and his wife that is my barber. One of my UT classmates and I have reconnected and he is the director of Schreiner University music dept and the conductor of our local symphony. I am on a deer lease with the nonprofit guy and the music guy. Go figure. Redneck hunters have different interests! The county has very affluent areas ( game ranches, retirement communities) and abject poverty. Ingram Tom Moore HS built a new band hall and installed showers because some of the kids in band have no running water in their homes. One of the reasons we started the nonprofit was to help these families with food and basic necessities. I can add more later if anyone is interested.
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@InkaUtexas@TexasEd Beers on me at Pint & Plow. Y’all are good dudes!
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