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Sorry for the multiple screencaps (I initially tried just one long one, but it was hard to read/manage), but there's a lot of information here, including some new rules - I love the "any movement is movement" change, as well as programming and other event details. 

 

 

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7 matches.  I wonder how they fit them all in with the new, expanded format.  

Witch Doctor v Ribbot - great match to start things off.  I hope team Ribbot prevails.

Shatter! v Huge - Sounds like a snooze fest.  Shatter gets weapon caught in Huge's wheel and they dance in circles for 2 minutes.

Glitch v Riptide - could be another fun match.  I wonder if Glitch fixed their shit.

Minotaur v Tantrum - sounds like another fun match.

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That was a fun season opener.  I didn't notice any bot builders in the broadcast booth as mentioned in the changes list.

I do like this new format where every bot is scheduled for 4 fights and they are publishing the full fight schedule up front.

Regarding my match comments...

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WD v Ribbot - oops.  WD looked legit

Shatter! v Huge - whoa.  Huge is vastly improved.

Glitch v Riptide - looks like Glitch has not sorted their shit.  Riptide is legit

Minotaur v Tantrum - the Brazilians are on a mission from God.

 

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Fusion v Emulsifier and MadCatter v Whiplash were fun fights to watch.  Several judges decisions tonight, but they didn't show score cards for the decisions (boo!).  I was really curious about one of them.  Jamison Go from team Sawblaze joined the booth for the Madcatter v Whiplash fight and had some fun but he was being too polite to give us some real thoughts/analysis.

* last night I guess, but I watched it tonight...

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On 1/13/2023 at 10:11 PM, bernorange said:

Jamison Go from team Sawblaze joined the booth for the Madcatter v Whiplash fight and had some fun but he was being too polite to give us some real thoughts/analysis.

i think this is the reason they haven't had a bunch of builders in the "booth" generally? they all like each other, interact a ton and have for years in some cases. even Ray Billings isnt a bad dude, he just accepted the heel role and has been pretty vocal about how he knew someone had to be the villain

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Cobalt was decent last season. I know nothing about Death Roll.

Claw Viper sucks ass.  I know nothing about Ominous.

Copperhead v Bloodsport could be a fun match.  Good drum v decent horizontal blade.

LockJaw v Malice could be interesting, but both bots have disappointed in the past.  Lockjaw is usually surprisingly durable.

Lucky is so-so.  I'm interested to see how Triton works.  Their horizontal blade weapon is asymmetrical.

Scorpios v Jackpot could be another fun match to watch.  Both are decent bots.

Hydra v Rotator could be a fun fight too. 

 

 

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The whole Malice gang are a bunch of bumblers. More concerned with projecting their Hot Topic edginess than building and operating a solid robot. 

Death Roll was around a year or two ago, but I think that they missed some time recently due to the pandemic. They're an Australian (ir New Zealand?) team, and the bot has (had?) a severed arm holding a knife on the self-righting mechanism. Cobalt can get off balance easily (or at least it could last season), so I expect Death Roll to roll. 

I think Rotator's versatility is its biggest strength and its biggest weakness, as odd as that may sound. 

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I saw some of the end of pool play, 2-1 and 1-2 matchups, when I saw this live a few months ago! I'm enjoying the season so far, and it should be a hell of a playoff bracket 

  

5 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

The whole Malice gang are a bunch of bumblers. More concerned with projecting their Hot Topic edginess than building and operating a solid robot. 

And yeah I definitely got this vibe from seeing their team - they had the most freebies and stickers and stuff to throw out into the crowd, and all sorts of custom art of their lead chick. Fun team for fan engagement, but not great builders

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14 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Death Roll was around a year or two ago, but I think that they missed some time recently due to the pandemic. They're an Australian (ir New Zealand?) team, and the bot has (had?) a severed arm holding a knife on the self-righting mechanism. Cobalt can get off balance easily (or at least it could last season), so I expect Death Roll to roll.

https://battlebots.fandom.com/wiki/DeathRoll

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Returning in 2019, DeathRoll had been totally redesigned, looking sleeker and far more compact than its previous build. Upgrades included, but were not limited to a bigger flywheel, a new self-righter designed to look like a severed arm holding a knife, chunkier wheel protection, smaller hinged wedgelets, greater weapon reliability and aesthetic details such as red teeth and no tail. These improvements and overall look gave it a greater resemblance to its King of Bots counterpart, and this showed in the arena. DeathRoll earned a mighty 4-0 record through three knockouts and a judges' decision in the opening stages of the tournament, becoming the first robot to be undefeated in the fight cards. After notching up a further two wins, six in succession, DeathRoll lost out to Witch Doctor in the semi-finals. DeathRoll was highly praised for its reliability throughout Season 4 of BattleBots, due in part to the multiple weapon belts. This gave the robot greater redundancy than several of its fellow vertical spinners, which could lose functionality of their primary weapon after losing a single belt.

Either that they were accepted but COVID restrictions meant they couldn't be there in Season 4 or Season 5

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The robot is a refined version of what the team planned to enter in 2020, now utilizing chains as opposed to toothed belts to drive their weapon. Unofficially dubbed DeathRoll 3.0, the robot is now also slightly faster, and its vital components are shock mounted more efficiently to help it survive impacts such as the blows which led to its 2019 semi-final loss. Unlike many other vertical spinners in the field, the team have opted against using forks or wedgelets for the final build of DeathRoll 3.0. Team captain Steven Martin believes that the robot operates better without the risk of becoming caught on the arena itself.

 

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On 1/19/2023 at 10:52 AM, bernorange said:

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Cobalt was decent last season. I know nothing about Death Roll.

Claw Viper sucks ass.  I know nothing about Ominous.

Copperhead v Bloodsport could be a fun match.  Good drum v decent horizontal blade.

LockJaw v Malice could be interesting, but both bots have disappointed in the past.  Lockjaw is usually surprisingly durable.

Lucky is so-so.  I'm interested to see how Triton works.  Their horizontal blade weapon is asymmetrical.

Scorpios v Jackpot could be another fun match to watch.  Both are decent bots.

Hydra v Rotator could be a fun fight too. 

 

 

Claw Viper comments spoilered below:

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i now want to see a bot as strong as duck and as fast as claw viper. that was impressive how fast they were.

but they didn't really do jack shit outside of driving around at a hundred miles per hour and hit him as hard as they can

 

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We watched Thursday's show last night.

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Copperhead v Bloodsport was awesome.  Short, but awesome.

Triton did not impress me.  Maybe they just need a better driver.

Skorpios changed configuration for vert. Spinners seemed like it was going to be a mistake.  But it seemed to work well.

Aggressive Hydra was fun to watch.

 

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11 minutes ago, bernorange said:

We watched Thursday's show last night.

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Copperhead v Bloodsport was awesome.  Short, but awesome.

Triton did not impress me.  Maybe they just need a better driver.

Skorpios changed configuration for vert. Spinners seemed like it was going to be a mistake.  But it seemed to work well.

Aggressive Hydra was fun to watch.

 

We watched last night as well, and I agree with your comments. 

Our household each got only three picks correct. Remind me to never pick Triton again. 

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1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

We watched last night as well, and I agree with your comments. 

Our household each got only three picks correct. Remind me to never pick Triton again. 

Those little dinky wheels on Triton were surprisingly effective up to a point

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8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Those little dinky wheels on Triton were surprisingly effective up to a point

Yeah, but its weapon had all the power of one of those cheapo $15 "hand controlled" drones sold in the impulse purchase section of the line to proceed to the next available cashier at the drugstore. 

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23 hours ago, bernorange said:

If you watch the first video I posted in post #5, you would understand why that ELO doesn't really make sense.  The rules have changed over time.

Totally agree the rule changes and everything else aren't perfect but you can't really do ELO on a tiny sample size of like one season? Just found it interesting 

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Monsoon v Black Dragon - I don't remember Monsoon.  I remember Black Dragon as mediocre (not terrible, not great), but capable of working while on fire for 2 minutes.

Malice v Emulsifier - Malice sucks.  Is Emulsifier the unbalanced flywheel (off center vertical spinner) bot?

Starchild v Overhaul - Who?  Starchild looks like a Huge clone.  Can it perform better than Huge has?

Gruff v Quantum - This could actually be an interesting fight.  Gruff's strong armor vs. Quantum's industrial press piercing tooth.  I wonder if either bot damages the other or if one just pulls a Pain Train to lose.

Kraken v Beta - Not sure why either bot is still in the field.  Both should have retired ala Rusty, Pain Train, Smeeee, etc.

Horizon v Shreddit Bro - Not sure I've ever seen either bot before

Whiplash v Hypershock - Whiplash's weapon looked really weak in their last match.  Hypershock has a real weapon.

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5 hours ago, bernorange said:

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Monsoon v Black Dragon - I don't remember Monsoon.  I remember Black Dragon as mediocre (not terrible, not great), but capable of working while on fire for 2 minutes.

Malice v Emulsifier - Malice sucks.  Is Emulsifier the unbalanced flywheel (off center vertical spinner) bot?

Starchild v Overhaul - Who?  Starchild looks like a Huge clone.  Can it perform better than Huge has?

Gruff v Quantum - This could actually be an interesting fight.  Gruff's strong armor vs. Quantum's industrial press piercing tooth.  I wonder if either bot damages the other or if one just pulls a Pain Train to lose.

Kraken v Beta - Not sure why either bot is still in the field.  Both should have retired ala Rusty, Pain Train, Smeeee, etc.

Horizon v Shreddit Bro - Not sure I've ever seen either bot before

Whiplash v Hypershock - Whiplash's weapon looked really weak in their last match.  Hypershock has a real weapon.

re: off center bot i thought was Emulsifier as well  but that is Triton

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Starchild looks fucking dumb too. same team as RIPperoni.

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same wheels and material as Huge, but vertical spinner?

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A collaborative effort from team members of P1, Uppercut and Valkyrie in seasons prior, Starchild is an upscaled version of Brandon Zalinsky's beetleweight robot of the same name.

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Starchild is a "thwackbot", that means we drive forward with the weapon dragging behind us, then slam the drive into reverse when we reach the opponent, swinging the weapon arm overhead for a devastating strike into their top armor."
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in what is going to, with 100% certainty, be a trash fight this bot and Huge fight each other in the 4th round of their pool plays basically.

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Kraken and Beta are both in it because they aren't spinners - I thought Beta was trash as well but they went 3-1 in Season 2 of the ABC reboot, went 3-0 in Discovery S5 before losing to Ribbot

Kraken went 1-2 in S4 Fight Nights, then 0-3 in Exhibitions, 1-2 in Season 5 Fight Nights then lost to SawBlaze, then 0-3 in Season 6

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Horizon is the dumbest looking robot maybe since Shmeeeeeeeeeee. that thing is going to break into a million pieces i bet.

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Shreddit is a "direct successor" to Pain Train from the same team.

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SHREDDIT BRO! is an upscaled version of the team's highly successful 3lb robot of the same name. Unlike its smaller version, however, SHREDDIT BRO!'s 250lb build is four-wheel drive sporting large rubber wheels to keep the robot invertible. These wheels are unprotected, lacking the wheelguards seen on the 3lb Shreddit Bro. Evan Arias cites weapon reliability as one of the biggest improvements between it and Pain Train, and the weapon itself is a 60lb eggbeater drum spinner spinning at 190mph.

I am assuming something crazy happens

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11 minutes ago, bernorange said:

Triton has asymmetrical horizontal blade.  The bot I was thinking of had a vertical spinner that was off center.  It had a flywheel in the back to counter gyroscopic procession.

Maybe you're thinking of Ripperoni? It's stupidly off-center and asymmetrical and also a complete piece of shit. 

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16 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Maybe you're thinking of Ripperoni? It's stupidly off-center and asymmetrical and also a complete piece of shit. 

 

15 hours ago, bernorange said:

That sounds right.

 

16 hours ago, bernorange said:

Triton has asymmetrical horizontal blade.  The bot I was thinking of had a vertical spinner that was off center.  It had a flywheel in the back to counter gyroscopic procession.

yup, that's it

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52 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

@NoName  just FYI, some (but not all) of your pictures in this thread aren't loading. In case you're using imgur, they hate us because they think we're a commerce site and won't host images here, so don't use them at all. 

 

 

I think he's got some extra stuff on the end of the wiki link that's breaking it. If you get rid of everything after the ".jpeg" in the URL it'll render properly, but tiny

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And yeah, Horizon looks like it'll be a spectacular fight just for the confetti show lol

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1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

@NoName  just FYI, some (but not all) of your pictures in this thread aren't loading. In case you're using imgur, they hate us because they think we're a commerce site and won't host images here, so don't use them at all. 

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I think he's got some extra stuff on the end of the wiki link that's breaking it. If you get rid of everything after the ".jpeg" in the URL it'll render properly, but tiny

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And yeah, Horizon looks like it'll be a spectacular fight just for the confetti show lol

damn, thanks guys. i am pulling them from the BB wiki and will do a better job of pasting images over here

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Just watched.  A few good fights, a few cripple fights, a miscarriage of justice, a judge's decision that could have gone the other way and some laughs.  Fun episode over all.

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Emulsifier should not have freed Malice.  What a tragedy.

Starchild and Overhaul both suck.  How boring was that?

Quantum looked legit, but have yet to face a good weapon.

Rebuilt Kraken has a weapon now and looks to become a legit contestant.  Not sure I agreed with the judges on this one.

Horizon was so dumb it hurt my brain.  Shreddit made by Pain Train team and gave a Pain Train performance.  It was painful to watch this fight.

Whiplash v Hypershock was entertaining.  

 

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