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yep.  2018 was very encouraging.  especially when you consider it was a fucking midterm.

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On ‎5‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 1:59 PM, Fozzz said:

I think it's more likely than not Trump wins in 2020.  

I agree with this post.   right now he'd probably win re-election.  we need to do better.

12 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

yep.  2018 was very encouraging.  especially when you consider it was a fucking midterm.

Which why Biden is a terrible choice. He polls the worst with this demographic. I strongly believe he is the candidate that would get Trump re-elected. 

i agree, but that’s not accurate. beating trump is pretty much the only positive to joe b. 

Good piece on the impact of the new debate threshold and how it’s impacting the lesser known candidates.



Graph on where the candidates stand and who’s in, on the bubble, and who probably won’t reach the threshold.

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That top 8 would be a good fucking debate.

Good. Get these jokers who know they have no shot but just want branding and bargaining chips to go away. I like the current line that drops everyone under Booker. That's the perfect group.

 

Sorry Yang, Castro and the rest of the chaff. If you want to build your brand, do something productive.

 

Gravel should get an exception because him train wrecking everything would be riveting television

19 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Good. Get these jokers who know they have no shot but just want branding and bargaining chips to go away. I like the current line that drops everyone under Booker. That's the perfect group.

 

Sorry Yang, Castro and the rest of the chaff. If you want to build your brand, do something productive.

 

Gravel should get an exception because him train wrecking everything would be riveting television

especially the ones who would be better served running for other stuff or possibly getting jobs in the new administration.

It's too bad that Tim Ryan isn't doing well - would've liked to see him on the debate stage and think he'd be a great candidate in the general.

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

especially the ones who would be better served running for other stuff or possibly getting jobs in the new administration.

Exactly. That's what I mean by doing something productive. Go get a job and/or pass some legislation or become the champion of a cause or two that will build your brand. 

It's too bad that Tim Ryan isn't doing well - would've liked to see him on the debate stage and think he'd be a great candidate in the general.

That jonah’s brother?

 

15 hours ago, williemackgarza said:


That jonah’s brother?

Yeah but the not regarded one 

Jon H. Ryan?  

This probably explains Biden's lead as much as anything - the more he can tie himself to Obama (who is still very popular, even among independents), the better for him.

 

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Of course he got booed.  The problem with Capitalism is that it's controlled by people who think they're the smartest people in the room.  Socialism will work because it's controlled by people that think they're the smartest people in the room.  I run a Socialism Startup Competition at UT-Austin each year and would love to have some of you engaged.  

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Old white man beware, Warren is coming for you. (No Indian reference)

Those polls would mean something if the primary were head to head.  And it's a good thing it's not b/c Warren is unelectable.

The Native American thing is her Chappaquiddick, her Donna Rice, her "Oops", her hug of Obama, that's going to keep her from going any higher.

No one gives a shit about her Native American thing except shallow mouth breathers and disingenuous trolls.   It’s not sticking except with people that already were never going to vote for her.  

3 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Those polls would mean something if the primary were head to head.  And it's a good thing it's not b/c Warren is unelectable.

The Native American thing is her Chappaquiddick, her Donna Rice, her "Oops", her hug of Obama, that's going to keep her from going any higher.

No democratic voter gives a shit and the Republicans that do would never vote for a democrat anyway.

 

 

No one gives a shit about her Native American thing except shallow mouth breathers and disingenuous trolls.   It’s not sticking except with people that already were never going to vote for her.  
I mean every data point we have shows that it clearly is hanging on to her. I know you're not a troll or a mouth breather but you're being disingenuous

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What data point?  The one you made up in your head? Or the one manufactured by corporate media? 

What data point?  The one you made up in your head? Or the one manufactured by corporate media? 
Come on man.

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35 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Those polls would mean something if the primary were head to head.  And it's a good thing it's not b/c Warren is unelectable.

The Native American thing is her Chappaquiddick, her Donna Rice, her "Oops", her hug of Obama, that's going to keep her from going any higher.

Wrong. 

Wrong. 
She is doing everything right. Like she's killing it right now and has gained about 2 points. She has a ceiling, unless Bernie dies.

Superman would make an awesome president but his sketchy alien heritage is a real deal breaker, I guess I’ll have to vote for Lex Luthor again. 

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:
5 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:
Wrong. 

She is doing everything right. Like she's killing it right now and has gained about 2 points. She has a ceiling, unless Bernie dies.

She's killing it and she's in great position ahead of the debates.   Not sure where else she needs to be on June 1 the year before the election. 

She's killing it and she's in great position ahead of the debates.   Not sure where else she needs to be on June 1 the year before the election. 

I'll respectfully disagree. I think there are a lot of people that didn't care about the NA thing until she pulled the DNA test thing where she did her "dunked on Trump" tour then ended up having to apologize profusely. Played right into his hands. Really bad look. I think she's about at her ceiling

 

Our last candidate was a dumb smart person. Let's not do it again.

 

From the event today. Beto is really owning the immigration discussion.

Plus, I love it when he cusses.

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Dems will never have nice things until they stop running scared.   And the NA story is as much of an issue as Dems make it by wetting their pants about it.   Treat it as the non-issue it is and it will have very little impact. 

2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

From the event today. Beto is really owning the immigration discussion.

Plus, I love it when he cusses.

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Sounds a lot like open borders.

Sounds a lot like open borders.


Sounds like you can’t read.
1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

No one gives a shit about her Native American thing except shallow mouth breathers and disingenuous trolls.   It’s not sticking except with people that already were never going to vote for her.  

 

 

this fucking nobody getting owned by AOC

 

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I don't buy the conspiracy theory that these imbeciles are all piling in to make sure Biden gets the nod, but I AM open to the conspiracy that this clown car of douchebag white men is being funded heavily/entirely by corporate lobbying interests desperate the prevent larger social and economic changes.

4 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I don't buy the conspiracy theory that these imbeciles are all piling in to make sure Biden gets the nod, but I AM open to the conspiracy that this clown car of douchebag white men is being funded heavily/entirely by corporate lobbying interests desperate the prevent larger social and economic changes.

Yeah, I was hoping to like Moulton and Ryan tonight but they're just blah.

I know he's been getting dunked on recently, but I still think Beto is the best candidate vs Trump.

The name of the event was “Big Ideas” - all of them started their answers that way that day.

Why I oughtta!  Hey you, what's the big idea?

A centrist will lose to Trump.

There is hard data that shows that a centrist Democrat would be a losing candidate
Economist Thomas Piketty wrote a paper about this in 2018, though the Democrats paid no attention

To translate from academese: An "egalitarian-internationalist platform" means the kind of political platform that articulates a shared, global struggle among all of the poor and working-class people around the world — in other words, a class-conscience platform that recognizes that rich people are not on the same side as the rest of us, and have different interests and are eager to exploit us. And egalitarian means the opposite of nationalistic or xenophobic — united in a common class struggle, you might say, towards a mutual goal of universal civil rights.

Democratic presidential candidates like Elizabeth Warren, Mike Gravel and Bernie Sanders fulfill this kind of platform to some degree. When Sanders uses terms like "99%" and "1%", or talks of universalizing abortion rights or healthcare or housing rights, he is articulating that "egalitarian-internationalist platform." Warren is interesting, in that she advocates for heavy regulation and taxation of the rich, though she is hesitant to disparage their right to actually be rich — and she is quick to identify as a capitalist. Still, her policies infuriate rich centrists like Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz, so one could definitely count her as among the egalitarian-internationalists, or at least adjacent. Gravel, who has been under-covered by the press, is running on a crowdsourced platform that, in the words of Jacobin writer Branko Marcetic, "reads like a left-wing policy wish list."

Yet the Democratic Party and their mouthpieces at major newspapers are clearly not heeding Piketty's prophecy. Rather, TV pundits and op-ed writers of every major newspaper epitomize how the Democratic establishment has already reached a consensus: the 2020 nominee must be a centrist, a Joe Biden, Cory Booker or Kamala Harris–type, preferably. They say that Joe Biden should "run because [his] populist image fits the Democrats’ most successful political strategy of the past generation" (David Leonhardt, New York Times), and though Biden "would be far from an ideal president," he "looks most like the person who could beat Trump" (David Ignatius, Washington Post). Likewise, the same elite pundit class is working overtime to torpedo left-Democratic candidates like Sanders.

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