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National media seems to see that it's less an Arch issue than it is an OL and scheme issue, but Texas fans you do you.  (No, this in no way implies Arch has no culpability here.)

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I just cancelled my subscription to the Athletic about seven days ago. It's been garbage for years but every time I'd cancel, they'd offer me a 75% discount. They did that this time too, and I said fuck you. Good call.

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All this makes it all the more glorious when we beat the shit out if a ridiculously overrated OU team coached by a roided out cro magnon dipshit. Will be the foundation for The Legend of Arch

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6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

 

Scip goes off. @Thatguy lot of your cut ups are in here 

 

  My cut ups? 

Anyway, I am going to move away from the Florida game for a bit because it looks like the lack of protection from that game is clouding up my point. Which was Arch isn't seeing the field. The play I was talking about was this one. We get to it from many different formation but essentially the slot guy runs a deep post and then they bring a dig underneath. Everyone keeps saying the problem is you are reading long to short and that forces you to hold the ball but that just isn't true. When you walk up to the line the coverage already kinda tells you what to look for. So for this play you are reading the safety's reaction, and it doesn't take that long to get it. If the safety starts backpedaling for the post we immediately throw the dig. If the safety stays flat we look for the post. Now here is the same play in the same game. Watch how each QB handles it. 

This is Manning vs Georgia last year. If you are reading that safety you know immediately after the snap that the dig will be available. 

 

 

Now here is Quinn in the same game vs the same defense running the same play. Quinn recognizes the safety bailing and hit the underneath dig accordingly. 

 

 

Let's fast forward to this year vs Ohio State. We run the same play. At the snap they roll to what looks to be Cover 3 with the safety digging for depth. So you should know immediately to look for that dig. Especially with the field side corner squatting, and looking for work in the flat. If Manning hits that dig when his back foot hits his drop it would be perfect, but instead he stares down the post, hops forward another two steps, and then lets it go. 

 

 

Now lastly this is Caldwell. It's hard to see the field because they cut to the penalty but you can see the slot runs off the safety. Caldwell gives it a quick peek. Hid cue tells him to look for the dig, and he throws it on the break. 

 

 

 

The point is that just because there is a set structure to how you read plays, like long to short. It doesn't mean that's a hard rule or that we should be standing back there looking at the play for 3 or 4 seconds. Almost all plays have a deep option, but the read can be made to come off it really quickly like this play here. Arch just doesn't do that. This what I mean when I say he gets himself in trouble. We run this play every game and I have never seen him hit this dig. 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

National media seems to see that it's less an Arch issue than it is an OL and scheme issue, but Texas fans you do you.  (No, this in no way implies Arch has no culpability here.)

National Media- First game what is wrong with Arch Manning. Second game Arch Manning has the yips. Third game Arch Manning is a bust. Fourth game Arch Manning is back baby! Fifth game Arch Manning's O-line sucks. 

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

National Media- First game what is wrong with Arch Manning. Second game Arch Manning has the yips. Third game Arch Manning is a bust. Fourth game Arch Manning is back baby! Fifth game Arch Manning's O-line sucks. 

Sounds like surly.

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20 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

National Media- First game what is wrong with Arch Manning. Second game Arch Manning has the yips. Third game Arch Manning is a bust. Fourth game Arch Manning is back baby! Fifth game Arch Manning's O-line sucks. 

Those are accurate descriptions of how Arch played in those games. He has been improving in the last couple of games, which was rarely the case for your boy, QE. Quinn played his best in his freshman year and then regressed pretty much every year. I rather have my QB go the opposite direction. Let's see how Arch does the rest of the year before we call him a bust. We gave QE 3 years, and he ended up going from a potential #1 pick to a 7th round pick. You think Arch will do worse?

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