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6 hours ago, Codaxx said:

This is the difference between coaches that maximize talent and those that do not. 5 stars are generally good in any system. To get the most out of your recruiting the bottom half of your class needs to fit into the system to maximize them. 

I fully agree with all the points you and @Thatguy are discussing. For me the most frustrating part is a combination effect. They don't necessarily recruit the best players for the system they want to run. Is that star gazing or bad recruiting evaluation, I can't say for sure. Whichever the reason, once they get them in, they seem no to evaluate the existing talent and force them into the scheme they WANT to run. As opposed to, figuring out what they CAN run and executing that aspect. That's clear this year and last. Since this is the Arch thread, crazy news. Arch has different strengths and weaknesses than Quinn had at QB. Yet even when the staff finds a game plan that works well for the QB and the other players around him, they seem determined not to stick with it and revert instead to what they WANT to run. That leads to an offense without and identity. The undefeated teams IU, OSU and even some one and two loss teams, Tech, ND, Oregon all have a clear identity. 

To pile on top, IF a team has an offensive identity you can then focus how to adapt that identity to best align a game plan to differing defenses. For instance, GT is a heavy running identity team averaging about 200 yards per game. (What a dream that would be) However, what's usually worked wasn't going to against Georgia. So GT made adjustments and ended up throwing for nearly 200. It's not great, but they were badly outmatched and a very well coached D (miss ya homie) made a game of it. 

 

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5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I fully agree with all the points you and @Thatguy are discussing. For me the most frustrating part is a combination effect. They don't necessarily recruit the best players for the system they want to run. Is that star gazing or bad recruiting evaluation, I can't say for sure. Whichever the reason, once they get them in, they seem no to evaluate the existing talent and force them into the scheme they WANT to run. As opposed to, figuring out what they CAN run and executing that aspect. That's clear this year and last. Since this is the Arch thread, crazy news. Arch has different strengths and weaknesses than Quinn had at QB. Yet even when the staff finds a game plan that works well for the QB and the other players around him, they seem determined not to stick with it and revert instead to what they WANT to run. That leads to an offense without and identity. The undefeated teams IU, OSU and even some one and two loss teams, Tech, ND, Oregon all have a clear identity. 

To pile on top, IF a team has an offensive identity you can then focus how to adapt that identity to best align a game plan to differing defenses. For instance, GT is a heavy running identity team averaging about 200 yards per game. (What a dream that would be) However, what's usually worked wasn't going to against Georgia. So GT made adjustments and ended up throwing for nearly 200. It's not great, but they were badly outmatched and a very well coached D (miss ya homie) made a game of it. 

 

Solid points. We changed our offense from a 12 personnel NFL based offense, to a 11 personnel, spread based offense. You know who belonged in a spread offense? Quinn Ewers. Yet we stuffed him into an offense that didn't fit his skillset for 3 years. Sark only changes when he has to not because it makes sense. Probably his worst human quality. Last year Quinn operated just good enough that his hand wasn't forced, so he made no changes. This year his job was on the line so he made a change. But for how long? You know he is just dying to go back to that clunky ass offense. I mean, we don't have 7 TEs on this team because we don't plan on using them. 🤣😂

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Solid points. We changed our offense from a 12 personnel NFL based offense, to a 11 personnel, spread based offense. You know who belonged in a spread offense? Quinn Ewers. Yet we stuffed him into an offense that didn't fit his skillset for 3 years. Sark only changes when he has to not because it makes sense. Probably his worst human quality. Last year Quinn operated just good enough that his hand wasn't forced, so he made no changes. This year his job was on the line so he made a change. But for how long? You know he is just dying to go back to that clunky ass offense. I mean, we don't have 7 TEs on this team because we don't plan on using them🤣😂

Dammit!

Speaking of recruiting talent to align with scheme and creating an identity you know what doesn't fucking help?

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Solid points. We changed our offense from a 12 personnel NFL based offense, to a 11 personnel, spread based offense. You know who belonged in a spread offense? Quinn Ewers. Yet we stuffed him into an offense that didn't fit his skillset for 3 years. Sark only changes when he has to not because it makes sense. Probably his worst human quality. Last year Quinn operated just good enough that his hand wasn't forced, so he made no changes. This year his job was on the line so he made a change. But for how long? You know he is just dying to go back to that clunky ass offense. I mean, we don't have 7 TEs on this team because we don't plan on using them. 🤣😂

Didn't we play a decent amount of 12 personnel vs A&M?

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Didn't we play a decent amount of 12 personnel vs A&M?

We always play some because that motherfucker can't himself. At least it's no longer the base offense. almost everything positive that happened in that game happened in 11 personnel. If I recall the Endries big play and subsequent TE TD run on the gl were in 12, but I think most of Wisner's big runs were 11. I know his biggest one was. So was the Wingo TD. So was Arch's run. 

Posted
34 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

We always play some because that motherfucker can't himself. At least it's no longer the base offense. almost everything positive that happened in that game happened in 11 personnel. If I recall the Endries big play and subsequent TE TD run on the gl were in 12, but I think most of Wisner's big runs were 11. I know his biggest one was. So was the Wingo TD. So was Arch's run. 

We didn't have great personnel for it this year and didn't execute well. But it worked really well against A&M. 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

We didn't have great personnel for it this year and didn't execute well. But it worked really well against A&M. 

Shit, we didn't have great personnel for it last year either unless you consider Juan Davis good personnel. Lol 

26 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Why is that?

What part are you asking about? 

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