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1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said:

I'd hang a poster with the Seven Tenets of the Satanic Church right next to the 10 commandments. Honestly, these don't sound so bad: 

 

 

I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

 

 

 

The funny thing is, the Satanic Church is more "christian" than the culturally dominant strain of American "christianity."  This fucking timeline, man.

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On 6/24/2025 at 6:25 AM, HornOnTheBayou said:

Right there with you. I also thought about putting it next to the board where I write announcements, like "Test on Wednesday", because I know students never look at that.

But in all seriousness, I cannot in good conscience put this in my classroom. Off the top of my head, in my classes last year I know I had Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, agnostics, and athiests in my classes last year. I am not going to hang up an official sign from the government that says "I am the Lord, your god. You shall have no other gods before me."

 

On 6/24/2025 at 7:15 AM, Goofyboy said:

Sure you can. Put it up with some stuff said by Zeus, Ra, and others and label it Mythology. Have fun with malicious compliance.

I don't think it's even a matter of squaring that circle.  It's just a fucking circle.

If you look back at the original text--and any Biblical scholar worth a damn will agree with this--Yahweh isn't saying "I am the only god out there."  He's saying that "you shall have no other gods before me."

That necessarily implies the existence of "other gods."  Now, Yahweh is a jealous fucker.  He doesn't want you putting Baal or Zeus ahead of him.  But he's not saying that they can't be co-equal.  And he's sure as shit not saying that Baal and Zeus don't exist.

So fire away and hang your Vedas and Sutras and whatever else.  Just don't hang them above the Ten Commandments, I suppose.

Or maybe do.  Jesus told y'all fuckers that the Ten Commandments don't really matter.  There are really just Two Commandments: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’  This is the first and greatest commandment.  And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’  All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”  

I'll just never understand Protestants who absolutely fetishize the Ten Commandments in the face of Jesus's actual fucking words.

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15 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I'll just never understand Protestants who absolutely fetishize the Ten Commandments in the face of Jesus's actual fucking words.

Not a criticism GOLL, but I disagree with the bolded statement.  “Protestant” includes everything from the Anglican church to evangelical snake handlers and the abomination that is the politics-centric cowboy church.  The term protestant is perhaps the least theologically exclusive term you could find…they cover the theological map from Catholic-light to bat shit crazy.

And if you are approaching this from the Catholic perspective, that church has a list of rules and requirements for salvation that appear nowhere in the Bible - yet make up some of the core tenets of the mother church (the list of sins requiring confession to a priest, last rights, Papal infallibility, etc.)

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22 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Not a criticism GOLL, but I disagree with the bolded statement.  “Protestant” includes everything from the Anglican church to evangelical snake handlers and the abomination that is the politics-centric cowboy church.  The term protestant is perhaps the least theologically exclusive term you could find…they cover the theological map from Catholic-light to bat shit crazy.

And if you are approaching this from the Catholic perspective, that church has a list of rules and requirements for salvation that appear nowhere in the Bible - yet make up some of the core tenets of the mother church (the list of sins requiring confession to a priest, last rights, Papal infallibility, etc.)

I'm not talking about Protestants broadly.  I commented on "Protestants who fetishize the Ten Commandments."  And that's a lot of them.  But it's certainly not all.

I'm fairly atheistic these days, but I grew up Catholic.  And at least when I went through CCD, the Church was pretty fucking supersessionist.  I assume it still is, based on my occasional readings of what the Pope has to say.  So I tend to think of this weird love of the Ten Commandments among purported "Christians" as a purely Protestant phenomenon. 

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Gotcha.  Agree.  I also liked you pointing out the no God before me concept.   Before my paternal grandfather was kicked out of the Mormon church for his alcoholism, that side of the family were all latter-day Saints.   The interesting thing about them is they are actually a polytheist theology.   And I believe Joseph Smith referred to that particular sentence to validate the fact that there was a cosmic father and mother producing spirit babies, and the teaching that with enough time and adherence to theology that a human man can eventually become a God worshiped by people on other planets.

I have to say, that is a hell of a lot better than hanging around on a cloud twanging on a harp.

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