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  1. I completely understand the skepticism surrounding the MacArthur memo and Japan's willingness to accept virtually the same terms of surrender that eventually were imposed after Hiroshima, but the more important point that's still relevant today is that it was well understood by all sides that Japan had lost the war long, long before Hiroshima. There was no strategic justification for the civilian atrocities we inflicted and we're teaching a whitewashed version of history when we allow people to believe that the war was going to rage on without the atomic bombs. We are proud of it when we should be ashamed.
  2. Am I out of touch? No, it's the voters who are wrong.
  3. You're right about this. The consensus among the military brass at that time was Japan was already at the table willing to cede its sovereignty to the US. The reason was our non-nuclear firebombings were already completely effective in getting Japan to bend the knee, and yes people completely overlook how much destruction our non-nuclear strikes were capable of and did inflict in Tokyo. The nukes were completely gratuitous killings, for no reason other than to intimidate the Soviets. haven't seen as much press about it
  4. that explains it
  5. So that was worth killing 200,000 innocents?
  6. Then why were the same terms accepted after the bombs were dropped?
  7. Because he wanted to kill 200,000 civilians instead of end the war. Right? That's my point. It was completely unnecessary to end the war.
  8. This blogger seems pretty argumentative and not particularly scholarly, but even setting aside his tone and motivations his analysis is focused on discrediting two historians without addressing the others such as Dennis Wainstock and Edwin Hoyt, cited in this article from Mark Weber. It was pretty common knowledge that Japan was willing to accept any terms of surrender including the exact same terms that were accepted after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. To bring us full circle, it was the onslaughts from the B-29s that truly won this war for the Allied Powers. Everything after that was garbage time and Japan was already completely desperate to cease hostilities and had conveyed via McArthur to FDR the same terms that were ultimately accepted after the nukes were used. https://ihr.org/journal/v16n3p-4_Weber.html
  9. Hard to accept for some but it's true. We are the only country ever to use nuclear weapons, and it was all completely unnecessary. Cope all you want, but it's true.
  10. I thought republicans were the party of religious freedom?
  11. Internet seems to think the Spurs have had an outstanding draft so I guess he's pretty good
  12. I'd be pretty pissed if I was a lottery pick and got stashed to the G-League
  13. I wonder if he'll contribute
  14. Do you know the terms of Japans offer? What about this offer was so unacceptable to FDR that we needed to kill 200,000 civilians?
  15. Does Shams have the advance intel?
  16. What terms were so important they had to kill 200k civilians?
  17. do we really need this shit?
  18. What do you think the difference is?
  19. FDR rejected the offer. If FDR had accepted the offer, the fighting would have ended without the need for atomic bombs eight months later.
  20. You're just wrong, but if you trust AI over historians I can't help you understand why
  21. Ask your AI about the memorandum FDR received on January 20, 1945, from Gen. Douglas MacArthur.
  22. I'm confused is this Houston's or Phoenix's pick?
  23. SEC overrepresented in the top 10
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