All of that. One of the funniest was the discussion about Cuban's comment that Ballmer would have been an idiot if he didn't throw additional money at Aspiration to try to keep them afloat in order to keep his cheating on the NBA salary cap and financial fraud from becoming public. Followed by a former Aspiration employee and leaked financial records obtained by Torre stating Ballmer did exactly that. Also on the other podcast Cuban took the time to go on while saying he was too busy to speak with Torre again so he didn't have to face someone who actually knows what they're talking about, Cuban questioned all of Torre's reporting by imagining that there were plenty of other investors putting money into Aspiration. But nope, only Ballmer and his Clippers partner were putting in money (and enabling Kawhi to get paid) right up until a Federal agency showed up at their HQ for an investigation and ended the shell game. Torre also unveiled an incriminating letter from the Clippers CFO. Also there was discussion about Cuban saying to Torre that you only have the side of partner A, who's now a convicted criminal so your reporting is questionable, and that Partner B is the supposed key and will have a different story, Cuban imagined, because partner B was not indicted. But Torre obtained texts/emails, and copies from partner B's deposition that were all highly incriminating of both partner B and Ballmer in just an extremely stupid and hilarious manner.
Ballmer is running around claiming he was defrauded but he put in something like $118m into Aspiration -- and between Kawhi getting paid and the Clippers getting paid for a "sponsorship" from a company that seemed to be fraudulent right from the start, his net was pretty close to 0, from what I can recall.