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  1. 4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

    Well, one way to attack that fucker, without bunker busters, is airdrop some light armor and sappers in there and get after it the old-fashioned way.

    The way things are going, doesn't sound like there's much to stop em.

    Pretty sure they could figure out all of the exit/entry points on that thing and completely seal those in for starters if they didn't want people on the ground.

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  2. 43 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

     Worth monitoring because there have already been reports of others in the government already leaving for Russia and other parts. 

    This I've heard about from various places, but not sure on the validity.  Would make perfect sense given the proximity.

    43 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

    Regardless, I think Israel now has the green light from the rest of the ME that he is a valid target with limited reprisals. 

    They absolutely do. Al-Assad going down was the last gasp at Iran having any serious allies.  Yemen is a proxy, but even they have limits on what they can do.

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  3. 6 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

    Not if I find them first according to both social media and some respectable research. Allegedly. 

    Look for them being stuck in the dishwasher, clothes dryer, under a sink cabinet, etc.  Allegedly.

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  4. 7 hours ago, Hayduke said:

    Some of us would consider ourselves spiritual and/or religious. Virtually all of us have friends and family who are spiritual and/or religious. And most of us are going to be in the very uncomfortable position for a while of trying to figure out what the hell that means in the context of a time of serious reckoning.

    I'm really struggling with it and am now heading to the basement for a workout and then out to the patio for a beer. 

    I'm willing to give that whole "Leftovers" thing a shot where 2% of the religious types disappear/are raptured up.

    And you have a basement?

    You Rock GIF

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  5. 26 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

    Iran, if it continues, will get absolutely smoked. This is old man ayatollah pride we are witnessing. And it’ll end with his downfall. 

    That maybe why Iran is unwilling to back down now - same boat as Putin - a big sign of weakness and you're kaput as a leader.

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  6. 1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

    theory - young men do not benefit from being taught how to pursue women by their pussy dads

    Thanks to all of the idiots who listen to Andrew Tate and Ben Shapiro and Crowder and Musk and who are too far gone on saying stupid shit on social media, or who immerse themselves in the online gamer culture (the toxic part of the culture I should say), guys like my son will clean up when he's older.

    I would argue it's far easier to get laid in this atmosphere if you're a young man than it was when I was a young man because you have so many easy avenues of connecting with women (or men if that's your deal).  A smartphone and a few social media/dating apps gives you instant access to more available people in a few minutes than those of us growing up in the 80s or 90s would see in several years of bar hopping or trying to dip your pen in the company ink.

    All it takes is to be clean, semi-presentable, and don't say or do stupid shit, and be willing to listen to the other person and act like you give a shit.  But plenty of young fucking morons buy into the "alpha male" shit that they are being sold on social media. I could spend 30 seconds on the FB and Instagram profiles of my younger cousins and tell you which of them will have no problem finding somebody to hook up with, even get married, and which are going to be incels for a while until they find some idiot woman who was raised by shitty parents.

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  7. 1 hour ago, troph said:

    whether it is or isn't the current motivation it has been the genesis of the conflict that has remain unresolved for 50+ years. the conflict can migrate to take on a life of its own apart from the original motivations making it just that much more difficult to untangle. no doubt today its about radicalism, proxy wars through terrorism and nuclear capability, but hey if the West could solve those three, I suspect the West would do so AND strong arm their way into a deal for natural resources, say some oil and gas and some rare earths as well.

    We have a President who has publicly talked about taking natural resources from at least two other countries who are or were at war.  The Iranians will have it on their minds.  

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  8. If you’re Iran you have to be a bit concerned that not only are other Muslim countries not complaining, but they are in fact allowing Israeli fighters to fly through their airspace.  And you have to be really concerned that your proxies are mostly sitting this one out, outside of some token gestures  

    If they try to shut down the Strait of Hormuz/Persian Gulf in some kind of retaliation against the West/fuck with oil supplies/prices, they could find themselves being hit by the Arab nations.  

    And now that Israel (population 10 million), controls Iran’s (population 91 million) airspace, Israel probably won’t let up any time soon. We can talk about peace negations but Israel is just not gonna let off the gas.  

    I won’t be surprised if we see major changes in Iranian leadership.

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  9. 37 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

    Expand on this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consortium_Agreement_of_1954

    The Consortium Agreement of 1954 (Persian: قرارداد کنسرسیوم) provided Western oil companies with 50% ownership of Iranian oil production after its ratification in 1954 expiring in 1979.[1] According to the consortium agreement, 40% of Iran's oil shares belonged to 5 American companies, the other 40% belonged to Iran-UK oil companies, 14% belonged to a Dutch oil company, and the remaining 6% belonged to a French oil company.[2] In spite of numerous negotiations and offers, Mohammad Reza Shah refused to extend the Agreement which originally and clearly postulated that the Consortium had the right to prolong it 15 years (3 times 5 years).

    A year after the overthrow of Premier Mohammad Mossadegh by the United States and the United Kingdom in the 1953 Iranian coup d'état, the British and American governments began pressuring the reinstated Shah of Iran into negotiations with Britain over the ownership of the Anglo-Persian Oil Company. The British cabinet had imposed a series of economic sanctions on Iran that prohibited the export of key commodities to Iran.[3] Britain's boycott had become devastatingly effective, with Iranians "becoming poorer and unhappier by the day".[4

    The dispute was finalized with the incorporation of a 25-year international Oil Consortium Agreement of 1954, dividing the aforementioned 50% ownership to foreign companies as follows. 40% to be divided equally (8% each) among the five major American companies; British Petroleum to have a 40% share; Royal Dutch/Shell to have 14%; and Compagnie française des pétroles, a French Company, to receive 6%. A year later in 1955 US-government ordered the 5 US-companies to each transfer 1% of their 8%, to several smaller companies because these companies had complained that 'they were left out'.[5]

    The agreement further stipulates that the Consortium would take care of 

    • (almost) all production,
    • Refining,
    • transport and
    • (only international) marketing

    of Iranian oil for which purposes two Dutch legal entities were to be created and based in The Netherlands:

    1. Iranian Oil Refining Company
    2. Iranian Oil Exploration and Producing Company.

    Basing these companies in Great Britain was considered politically undesirable, as was the initial wish of BP to get 50%. With English companies and a large 50% stake, was thought not to be acceptable to the Iranians. Furthermore, 50% would materially give BP a majority stake because BP had strong connections with the little (6%) French company CFP. Hence only 40% for the former 100% possessor.

    The agreement, which was heavily pressured by President Eisenhower, gave American oil companies significant influence over how much petroleum Iran pumped and the price it could sell for.[6] Beginning in 1973, the Shah faced increasing tensions with Western nations after announcing he would not renew the consortium agreement upon its expiration and planned to nationalize Iranian oil in 1979. The Shah, speaking to 5,000 farmers and workers, accused the oil companies of mishandling operations under the 1954 agreement. He said he had ordered the National Iranian Oil Company to start hiring foreign experts to work with Iranians so the company could take over the consortium's duties “either immediately or from 1979.”[5]

    Many Iranians accuse Western nations of supporting the overthrow of the Shah due to his failure to renew the consortium agreement in 1979 in what is known as the 1979 Iranian Revolution conspiracy theory.[7] According to the New York Times, the oil companies, through a spokesman, argued that the Shah did not have a legal right to end their contract in 1979, because the Consortium had the right of prolonging it for 15 years.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Captainant said:

    This guy's LinkedIn and other bios make him sound quite a bit like a mercenary 

    https://www.pguards.net/leadership-team

    Fuckin "Praetorian Guards Security"? Running contracts for oil refiners and "the world's largest food company based on Switzerland" - aka Nestle the water thieves?? Gimme a break with the "ZOMG he's actually LEFTIST!!!ONE!!" and actually engage with the facts of the situation. 

    Good lord, turning Twitter back on was a mistake. Disinformation flows in abundance from there 

    1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

    That bio reads like some Gravy Seal bullshit. And the company page is much more “mall cop” than “soldier of fortune.” 

    World’s largest convenience story based out of Japan is 7-11, but he doesn’t want to say he worked for 7-11.

    It tracks.

    edit: stupid auto-correct

  11. 1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

    I agree with all your points. Perhaps I'm just hope casting to what I selfishly believe is best for a lot of different aspects. I think hitting OG and the leadership is also best for the people of Iran long term not just western and Israel interests. Removing the funding keeps a different caliphate from just moving in, taking it over and being basically back where we started.

    Admittedly, my position is a simplistic one.

    Yeah, and if the OG is out of the equation, whoever comes into power is going to have to play nice with the rest of the world.

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  12. 1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

    One is plan A one is plan B, imo, but I agree that is certainly an option.

    My thinking from Israeli perspective, knocking out the OG kills the money supply. Killing the money supply cuts out the heart of the Hyrda. Killing current leaders leaves a vacuum that may well be filled by another similar Hydra. 

    Your plan or Plan B if you prefer, imo, leaves a much higher risk for Israel long term, plan A reduces means for military supply, a funding source for another head of the Hydra and potential allows the people of the region to take over as their is no direct funding source for caliphate regime. 

    But.. that's me looking at it from a tactical position and only Israeli interest. Outside influences are obviously going to have an effect in the broad terms and many of those won't want the OG attacked for many various reasons.

    Girl Why Dont We Have Both GIF

    As long as the religious nuts are in power, Israel will be their bogeyman, and it feels like they will be even more inclined to get nukes built.

    And they are even more isolated after Syria fell.

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  13. 3 minutes ago, Bevo said:

    Russia is impotent and direct conflict with the West doesn’t appear to be China’s style.

    Yeah, it won't spread beyond Iran/Israel.  Russia can't fuck with Israel and can't even defend Iran.

    I would have been worried had any other Muslim nations sided with Iran (outside of Yemen) but they are more than content to see Iran wrecked.  I'm curious what countries are letting Israeli aircraft fly over them.

    26 minutes ago, General Specific said:

    Oh no, SECs strongly worded letter and fine is going to send the Ayatollah into a fit of rage! We are doomed!!1!

    Lichtenstein will be penalized.

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  14. 1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

    This conflict has been building for decades. It was almost certainly always going to end with full on war between the two countries. 

    I'm of the firm belief, this one goes all the way as Israel knows Iran will continue on their enrichment program no matter what is "agreed upon" in any settlement. Israel is correct in that assessment. 

    I think to hurt them most Israel ultimately hits ends up hitting they're funding element which is their OG refinery. 

    But that's just my instinct not based on any particular insight other than watching this unfold since I was a child.

    I think at some point Israel knocks off the Iranian leadership and hopes some kind of revolution kicks in and the radicals are thrown out.

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  15. 7 hours ago, B00M said:

    Perfection is impossibly expensive, even over a relatively tiny country like Israel. But I’m sure our Golden Showers Dome will be worth the cost. 

    Until somebody parks half-a-dozen cargo ships up and down the East, West, and Gulf Coasts, and a few containers open up and out fly a shitload of drones.

    None of Tom Clancy's ghost writers better steal that plot (but they will).

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