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hpslugga

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  1. It's not "solely based on one super bowl win."
  2. It's actually worse than you think: Detroit's been one of the worst franchises in the last 60 years. Uh no he won't. But you're missing the whole point of the question. The point is that the answer is "there is none that fit that description," so you'd be asking the HOF to consider making a special exception based on what amounts to the fallacy of special pleading. That is the red flag.
  3. Matt Ryan does not fit the description I gave you. You knew that.
  4. The red flag is in your reasoning. You’re refusing to answer a simple question, which tends to suggest that you’re arguing in bad faith. Again, what QB that had 50k yards and 300 TD’s along with a ring has been turned away by the HOF?
  5. The team is constructed by a consensus of sports writers and broadcasters. That’s literally the definition of a popularity contest.
  6. And the inverse is true too. Anyone remember those Rams teams of the early 1990’s? That team that had Flipper Anderson and Henry Ellard? Yeah, they didn’t win shit, largely because they had a shit QB that was put in a good situation. All that tells you is that it’s a team game and not everything boils down to one person. It’s the same with Stafford. He spent 12 years with a franchise that would have been improved if it was being run by Chris Rock’s rendition of Caretaker, he gets paroled and a year later is holding a Lombardi. But sure, lets talk about Detroit because…things.
  7. I love how Stafford’s got all these weirdo detractors on this site that have avoided answering the second question like a vampire avoids garlic.
  8. Well sure, we can lick nuts. Hell, I’d be concerned if we couldn’t.
  9. That’s just typical Richard Sherman insanity. Every single one of those things are popularity contests. No mention of his stats, no mention of Super Bowls, and he caps it off by unfavorably comparing him to a dude that Stafford has on both counts.
  10. I mean he’d make a good case if it were based on a hypothetical reality; the hypothetical being that it was perpetually 1976
  11. I mean I’m not gonna grant that premise, but let’s say that I did: Did you get a sinking feeling in your gut if your team went ahead with 2 minutes left and knowing you had to stop: Sonny Jurgensen Len Dawson Bob Griese Joe Namath Ken Stabler from scoring to win?
  12. Hey can’t say that I blame him. When you say that someone is “very likely bound for Canton,” that’s serious business.
  13. Has nothing to do with “the moment.” I’ve been saying that his ticket to Canton is a ring away from being punched for a few years now. He punched it. It’s really that simple.
  14. sorry, is anyone asking y’all to throw benefits for us?
  15. Because: 1. Stuff 2. Things 3. Seriously, 2 of those 3 things were well beyond any of his control, 1 being a completely contrived “controversy,” and the other that sort of involved him was also a contrived controversy. Tuck rule? Shit that was a rule of the game that even I knew the very second the play happened.
  16. Right and no one held…well…Detroit against Barry Sanders either. FIFY
  17. I appreciate you trying to make it about that, but the problem is I’m not the only one making that case. Not really sure why you felt compelled to post this. Again, he’s 12th all time in both yardage and TD’s and I would encourage you to look at both those lists, both above and immediately below him. As you do that, also filter out the guys who never won a SB. Here’s what you’re left with that fit that description from 1st to 15th Brady Brees P. Manning Favre Rodgers Roethlisberger E. Manning Elway R. Wilson The ones who are available for induction are already in and it’s a fool’s errand to argue the rest won’t. Which speaks volumes about the suckitude of the Lions organization. You can’t just wave your hand and pretend that’s not a factor. No one is saying that it is. What honest people are saying is that it’s possible for a player to have an HOF-worthy career for a shit team. All last night did was end the argument. Look, I appreciate the fact that there are people, for their own petty reasons, who do not want him in the HOF but I say the same thing to them as I did to Soul Glo regarding Warren Moon’s induction in 2006 right before it was announced: y’all are gonna have to give that shit up.
  18. And the whole 50,000 yards and 300 TD’s thing. But that never resonates with some
  19. Honestly I see that in the same context as some grade school kid that pulls his pants down at recess just so the rest of the students will look at him. I mean it’s either that or a stupid person expressing what they think is a smart thing to say.
  20. I mean I suppose they gotta plan how they’re gonna tell him and what day….
  21. Not saying he isn’t good, just that the idea of him deserving a PB nomination ahead of Stafford is a bad joke.
  22. And that’s the only lesson that was learned by people with minds worth a shit who observed it. Detroit is a dumpster fire of an organization. Back in the day, it was trendy for some people to make the argument “well if Barry played for Dallas and Emmitt for Detroit…” I’ve had the same arguments with people about Stafford and my position is as follows: If Ben Roethlisberger played for the Lions and Stafford for Pittsburgh: Ben would have been one of those joke comedy guys that was always seen getting drunk and hitting on girls in public, and Matthew would have won multiple rings early in his career. Ben was fortunate to be supported by a well run organization with impeccable coaching from beginning to end and there’s no fucking way he wins two Super Bowls as Detroit’s QB. As to your comment about Cousins, yes. Only a worthless goober would say “yes, Cousins deserves a pro bowl nomination over Matthew Stafford.”
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