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Updated photo of Feodosia Terminal, Crimea Orange - Attacks prior to August 2025 Red - Attacks last week (early October) Blue - Attacks this week Satellite Photo I think Ukraine is dragging their 'nads showing their capabilities of the systematic destruction of Russian infrastructure. "Satellite images confirm 11 fuel tanks destroyed at Crimean oil terminal after Ukrainian strikes A key fuel supply hub for Russian forces in Crimea has lost 11 storage tanks to Ukrainian strikes this month, with several more tanks unlikely to be restored to operation. by Maria Tril, 18/10/2025 Radio Liberty's Russian service has released satellite imagery documenting extensive damage to the oil depot in Feodosia, occupied Crimea, following Ukrainian strikes on the facility. Ukraine's drone strikes focus on Russian military airbases, manufacturing facilities, oil refineries, and energy infrastructure. According to military analysts, these operations aim to disrupt Russia's fuel supplies and inflict economic pressure. Attacks on oil refineries have hit approximately 38-40% of Russia's refining capacity, damaging production of gasoline, diesel, and aviation fuel, which has led to shortages and price increases within Russia. The images show 11 fuel storage tanks completely destroyed as a result of Ukrainian attacks on the site, according to Radio Liberty. Several other damaged tanks are unlikely to be recoverable. Ukrainian forces struck the Marine Oil Terminal facilities in Feodosia on 6 October. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine described it as "a multifunctional technological complex for transshipment of oil and petroleum products from railway tank cars to sea vessels and back, as well as to road transport, which is involved in supplying the occupying army of the Russian Federation." The massive fire that erupted following the Ukrainian strike could not be extinguished for more than two days, Radio Liberty reports. On 13 October, Ukrainian military forces struck the Feodosia oil depot again. The result of two Ukrainian strikes on 7 October and 13 β 11 completely destroyed fuel tanks, several damaged and unlikely to be recoverable, according to the reports. The first Ukrainian strike on the oil terminal in October 2024 destroyed or fatally damaged 14 tanks at the hub that supplied fuel and lubricants to the Russian army in occupied Crimea. A Pantsir air defense system installed at the refinery in 2022 failed to prevent any of the three Ukrainian attacks."
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There are 3 Bashnet Refineries in the Ufa area, Ufa (160,000 BPD), Ufaneftekhim (190,000 BPD, and Novoil (120,000 BPD), with the 3 totaling 470,000 BPD of capacity, and covering over 4,600 acres, or ~ 7 square miles. In Austin, TX, the area between Mopac and I-35, and 38th Street to Town Lake is ~ 3,700 acres. The total refining capacity here is comparable to Highway 225 in Deer Park, or along I-10 in Lake Charles. In the screenshot photo in the OP, you can see a lot of green open space within the refineries. That is not common to the few US Refineries I have been to. With so many different pieces of equipment in the refinery, and as spread out as they are, it is very difficult to tell what exactly was hit, but one thing they all have in common is everything makes big fireballs with thick black smoke. .and I updated my listing of the Russia Refineries over 100,000 BPD, showing the individual process units that have been targeted and/or damaged. In most cases, i think if the large pressure vessel itself was damaged, it is basically a total loss, which would probably take a year to replace, and require a labor force of 500-1,000+ people. Some of these individual towers are 10+ feet in diameter, 100+ feel tall, and refine 100,000+ BPD, or a tank truck full of gasoline every 2-3 minutes. Just to replace the vessel may take 6 months, with another 6-12 months to replace all the other related equipment. As so many of there are linear processes, and interruption in the chain is important, but not necessarily critical. DIesel is a relatively dirty fuel compared to Jet fuel or gasoline, but at the end of the day any "off-spec" fuel would probably work okay with a smallish degradation in performance. I'm betting the Russia and US refining standards would never be confused with each other. I think early in the campaign, Ukraine was content with the equivalent of lobbing grenades over the fence and hoping something blew up. In the past 6 months, they started identifying by name and number the process units they targeted and/or hit, which is indicative of better targeting intelligence, and better weapons and technology. One can infer from the vessel numbers that their multiple units that have similar functions, with the newer versions being bigger and better versions of the older ones. The concept of a "refinery capacity" is kind of a nebulous term, as it is probably the capacity of everything there, when there is a low probability that it all operates at the same time. A lot of the equipment would be an either or operation, but not both. That makes determining the degree to which refining capacity has been reduced not much better than an educated guess. Most equipment operates better at higher rates. Most of the refining equipment are static process vessels with fluids moving in and between them the only "moving parts." The motors driving pumps and fans are relatively simple machines that are basically on or off, with not a lot of difference between operating at 50% load v. 90% load. The most critical thing is the predictive and preventative maintenance on the dynamic pieces. In a higher demand/price environment, the equipment usually operates near the capacity, and even the best companies are prone to delay scheduled maintenance until prices normalize. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. The concept of "run to fail" usually works like it sounds. Please note that delaying maintenance is not the same as compromising safety. Though I don't think maintenance or safety are very important in Russian facilities these days, or if they ever were. Gas processing is similar to oil refining, but gas is much different than oil. One big pump can move a lot of oil. It takes a bunch of really big compressors to move a lot of gas, either large gas turbines with complex and expensive rotating assemblies, or reciprocating compressors that by their nature, are machines that require constant maintenance. Most companies have learned that regular maintenance means regular maintenance.
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My screenshot; Red icons and the Red polygon in the middle are pre October strikes. The Red icons within the Blue polygon were the Oct 6 strikes. The Blue polygon is from the FIRMS shot in the quoted post. It appears they hit everything on the easy side of the terminal, including the rail loading/unloading facilities. I believe Ukraine has chosen not to target the 3 large tanks on the west side of the property, because they are large, and very close to civilian infrastructure adjacent to the terminal. Should have called me. I put out a diesel fire, at fire school, in a 6'x6' pan ~ 6 " deep, with a dry powder extinguisher. The protocol w/ oil & gas fires, cut off the fuel source, control the fire, and then assess. your options. Burning gas (vapor, natural gas, not gasoline) in a controlled environment is preferable to a large gas plume continuing to vent and grow, looking for an ignition source, that vaporizes everything within the plume. Most big gas fires, like the one next to Walmart in Pasadena, you isolate the fire and let it burn itself out. Most liquid fires, try to put out the fire, and clean up the mess. From the FIRMS data, it appears that most of the facility is burning, which probably includes the fire water system, is compromised and/or to hot to get access to. My first guess is that the terminal if fed by rail rather than pipelines. That would be a long, and expensive, underwater pipeline (don't think they would put it on the Kerch Bridge), and given the Russia love for trains, i expect that is that they use. Similar Dynamic Ronald Reagan used to crush the Soviet Union. Make Russia spend their capital $$$ trying to make a competing (mythical) "Star Wars" defense system, and crush their revenue stream by enticing the Saudi's and friends to flood the oil market. It worked, but the collateral damage to the domestic Oil & Gas Industry was irreversible. Who is gone since then? Mobil, Amoco, Texaco, Arco, Cities Service, Kerr-Mcgee, Occidental, Tenneco. And when the oil price is destroyed, Exxon, Chevron, and Conoco go with it. Conoco is already reducing staff by 25%. (Not really, they will survive and scarf up all the smaller guys that are not integrated (do not make and sell refined products). Today, oil dropped below $59/bbl. Wall Street will force the integrated oil companies (Big Oil) to divest of assets at fire sale prices, again. There are 3 big oil producers; The Saudi's, the US, and Russia. Kicking 2 of the 3 in the nuts is a bold strategy. It will make Greta happy. To be clear. This is the right move. Crush Russia's ability to make war, and they will have to stop. But I put my Good Will Hunting hat on and look down the road a piece, and it looks kind of bumpy. Full disclosure, I went to an estate sell this weekend. Lot of Conoco paraphernalia; he was a gas processing engineer. I saw some personal items, asked around, it turns out I knew the guy. I bought a copy Conoco's 125th Anniversary book, still wrapped in plastic. I've posted pictures of Candi Loving from Ponca City, OK. Conoco's first big well was a lease from the Ponca Native Americans and Chief White Eagle. We lived on White Eagle Lane in Katy. "I remember White Eagle standing near the derrick of the first well when it blew in with a terrific roar. He told me in sign language that I was making "bad medicine, for him, his people, and myself." Whatever the Oil & Gas industry may be, there is a legacy of ingenuity, an unending passion and pioneer spirit, and a romantic ideal of living life on the edge, oscillating between good and bad, and rich and poor. I find it interesting that for me, this board, your posts, and the insights and life experiences that you all share, is all because of Ukraine and their people; they have pulled all of us in, as they personify that romantic ideal and ingenuity and spirit that I thought was a long, tall tale from yesteryear. Yep, dad was a jet engine mechanic and we always lived close to the planes (B-52's) and the flight line. The 12,000 ft runways ware always a choice target. We always did the drills; the older we got, the more funny they seemed. You realized when it happens it happens and there is nothing you can do about it, so ... don't worry and enjoy life. I may not be normal, but I don't care.
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"AI Overview The Rocket and Space Industry Research Center in Peresvet is the Scientific and Testing Center of the Rocket and Space Industry (NITs RKP), a key facility for Russia's space corporation, Roscosmos. Key facts about the center: Purpose: The facility is a critical hub for the testing and validation of Russian rocket engines, propulsion systems, and spacecraft before launch. History: The test center was established after a 1948 government decree ordered the construction of a rocket test station. It was built in a wooded area with deep ravines, which provided a natural flame trench for testing rocket engines. Past projects: The facility was used for testing major components of the new Angara rocket family in the late 2000s, including test firings of the URM-1 rocket booster." "The Federal State Unitary Enterprise Scientific Research Center of the Russian Space Agency (FKP NIC RKP) reports a release of Heptyl, an extremely toxic and poisonous rocket fuel." I found this picture on Google Earth: That's a big mo-fo. Accident or Intentional?
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Thanks guys. I forgot I already knew this. One of earliest memories as a toddler/youngling was touching a radiator in an Air Force hospital. Only happened once. I imagine every refinery has a distillation column similar to this. Additional columns may include operating at a vacuum to enhance separation, or use a catalyst or extreme heat to "crack" the long chain heavy hydrocarbons into lighter, short chain hydrocarbons. A refinery will make 100+ gallons of products from 100 gallons of crude oil. In simple terms, jet fuel is a combination of gasoline and kerosine and other substances. Refining 101 - Distillation "Much like a simple still, in a distillation column, liquid is heated to a vapor and lifted upward to be distilled again into separate substances. This is the beginning of the refining process. Distilling exploits the characteristic of the chemicals in crude oil to boil at different temperatures. Unlike a still, a distilling column contains a set of trays that allow heated vapors to rise and collect at different levels, separating out the various liquids derived from crude oil. The top of the column is cooler than the bottom, so as liquids vaporize and rise, they condense again, collecting onto their respective trays. Butane and other light products rise to the top of the column, while straight-run gasoline, naphtha, kerosene, diesel, and heavy gas oil gather on the trays, leaving straight run residue at the base of the column. Liquids are considered βheavyβ or βlightβ based on their specific gravity, which is determined based on its weight and density compared to that of water. " The bottom of the barrel really is the bottom of the barrel. FIFY Like anything you read, there is some fiction based on fact. You decide how much of which is which. Using an orbiting satellite to identify a specific weld in a large processing plant "for weakness" is Bruce Willis level kind of fiction. (99.9% of welds in a process plant are stronger than the pipes that are welded together, because they are thicker than the pipes.) Now Russian steel might include melted fenders and hood ornaments, so ... In a large power plant or smaller gas plants & NGL fractionation plants that make steam, you will probably have and/or use different levels of steam; ~1,800 PSI (#) steam - to drive a very large turbine-generator sets (~ 10,000+ HP?) 600 # steam - to drive smaller pumps and equipment 80 # steam - the heat medium for heating the process towers Low level steam - auxiliary heating for buildings, etc. The resulting low level steam that is not used in all of the above (condensate) is condensed from steam back to water by using cooling water and/or cooling towers. The less you have to do this, the higher the plant efficiency. That is why nuclear and other large power plants are near oceans, rivers and lakes. As a young District Engineer in the 80's, I got one of my plants licensed as a FERC certified co-generation plant, that had a 90+ % thermal efficiency (~ 93% ?). The water used to make steam is cleaner and purer than distilled water. It is normal for smaller steam turbines to go 10+ years without having to open the case to inspect it. The large turbines are inspected on a more frequent basis as a precautionary measure.
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Why does Russia call them "Thermal Power Plants"? Do they also generate electricity by freezing things? I must of missed forgot most of those lectures. I remember as you approach Absolute Zero, theoretically the coldest possible temperature, molecular motion essentially stops and a system reaches its lowest energy state. Kind of how I felt after watching the Florida game. The Klintsy Power Plant is actually in Bryansk Oblast, not Belgorod Oblast. Bryansk is adjacent to Ukraine and Belarus, further to the northwest. The Belgorod "Luch substation" includes a smallish gas fired power plant, along with the necessary electrical switchgear to connect to the grid. This would be the definition of a surgical strike in the middle of the city. Somebody had good intel to know the places where to hit them that would black-out the whole city, or they got lucky. Belgorod is kind of the logistics hub of the wagon wheel for Russia fucking around with Kharkiv and supplying Luhansk and Donetsk. The more damage Ukraine causes in Belgorod, the better. Thanks! Atomheartbevo, you get the Gold Star. My earlier posts were not 100% accurate. The Socar Antipinsky Refinery near Tyumen, actually had in accident in January 2022, before Russia invaded Ukraine. As it was prewar, is was a big "who cares?" It is the icon on the screenshot below, about halfway of the red line. Shit happens fast around here. That's a bad ass paint job on the helmet. The tanks in yellow in the post above are what is burning now. Nausea, Headaches and Coughing: Locals Complain Amid Crimean Oil Refinery Fire Caused By Ukrainian Strike A major fire at an oil refinery [terminal/depot] n Russian-annexed Crimea has sparked complaints from local residents, raising concerns over safety and environmental impact. Kyiv's forces reported a βsuccessful strikeβ on an offshore oil terminal near the Black Sea port town of Feodosia on Monday, sparking a fire that prompted local authorities to evacuate over 1,100 people. But while local officials claimed that βno harmful substances were detected in repeated air samples,β residents continue to complain about air quality. βNausea, headaches, coughing in the morning β was that all just a dream? Only the rain helped us today,β Irina Kapeka, a resident of Feodosia, posted on Thursday in the local VKontakte group Podslushano Feodosia, referring to the authorities' assurances that the air was safe to breathe. Another woman, Inna Radchenko, commented on VKontakte: βItβs strange they [the authorities] havenβt declared this air to be beneficial.β The town has implemented a municipal-level state of emergency. As of Wednesday, traffic around the oil depot was restricted, with vehicles being diverted to alternate routes, the state-run RIA Novosti news agency said. I'm glad I played Risk. Russia is fucking Huge?Screenshot of Russian refineries, 21 have been hit (orange) and 3 have not been hit (yellow), yet. The red line is 2,700 miles, about the distance from Los Angeles to New York, or from Ukraine to the Rosneft Angarsk Refinery, north of central Mongolia. My guess is Ukraine smuggled troops and drones into eastern Russia and attacked from there, their "Doolittle '30 seconds over Tokyo' Raid." There was a story on the Kerch Bridge attack after it happened; Ukraine routing a truck with fake manifests, full of explosives, through multiple countries, timed to be on the bridge at the same time as a Unit Train of oil tank cars, and boom! The combination of Ukraine targeting and hitting specific process towers within the refinery, and the lack of Russian air defences proximate to the refineries, my guess is it would not take that many drones and missiles to cripple the motor fuel capabilities. I mean this in the nicest possible way, but Ukraine has flipped the switch ... destroying the invaders capacity to make war. The Blue and Yellow in kind of symbolic, don't you think? Ukraine has been very deliberate, and systematic in their approach to attacking refineries the past few months. I really enjoy seeing smart people thinking, and analyzing, and extrapolating outcomes, before they do something. Ukraine's ingenuity has been pegging the meter for a long time.
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Kudo's to this guy for trying to keep track of all this. Most of the first hand information is suspect, and trying to compile it and process the information and boil it down into something useful is difficult at best. Even then, that summary would probably only get you a C+ or a B-. The screenshot tells you all you need to know. "Chicks dig the long ball big fires." Not unlike the Japanese carriers on fire at Midway, and we know how that turned out. Ukraine's systematic targeting of Russian refining capacity is mind boggling. The refining capacity of the 3rd largest oil producer in the world is on life support, and Russia is now importing refined products for the first time in 20+ years. Of Russia's 28 largest refineries (over 50,000 bbl/day) , Ukraine has hit 20 of them in 2025, and all but the 3 refineries in far eastern Russia have been hit since 2022/ The recent strikes targeted the specific refining towers that are the most critical pieces of equipment, and it appears they have destroyed those targets, in a way that those units would not be repaired or replaced for at least a year, if not longer. The blast from the initial explosion, and the resulting fire and heat would melt most of the wiring and cables, and the measurement, instrumentation and control equipment necessary to operate the facility. They probably couldn't get replacement parts, and don't have the money for the newer and better equipment, if anybody would sell it to them (they would). Replacing the Chevron's refinery in California would probably take 2+ years, without the impacts from sanctions on critical equipment. There are multiple layers of skilled labor required for the many tasks required, and most of the Russian skilled labor Russia had are probably dead, or gone. My summary below. Everything in red damaged in the last 3 years, the green damaged in 2025. The yellow are the 3 undamaged refineries. The 4th undamaged refinery (Orsk) just got hit this week.
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Join Bluesky The open social network. MAKS 25 ππΊπ¦ βͺπ¦ π₯ Uralkhim Azot. A local resident claims to have seen 5 UAVs flying, 3 of which hit the factory, 1 was shot down, and another allegedly hit a house. "Their are a number of potash mines in the area (general term for potassium compounds), used for fertilizers, many household products, fuels and explosives, including potassium nitrate. While modern explosives use other compounds, potassium nitrate is a key component in classic black powder, fireworks, and solid rocket propellants. The Azot Branch of Uralchem is the only Russian producer of higher aliphatic amines, sodium nitrate, and crystalline sodium nitrite. The main products of Azot are ammonium nitrate, ammonia aqueous solution, ammonia water, urea, nitric acid, and nitrite/nitrate salts." Ammonium nitrate was used in the Oklahoma City bombing. Ukraine is targeting the refineries, pipelines, and related O&G facilities that generate revenue and fuel their economy, and cars and trucks. The strike on the plant making electrical connectors and products and this strike on the Azot specialty chemical plant is pretty muy bueno. Ukraine is not only blowing up the finished weapons, they are blowing up the primary components on the weapons.
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Late to the party, and nowhere else to post this. There used to be listing in the Austin phone book in the 70's for "Henador Titzoff", which actually was the number for a Sorority House. Henador Titzoff = He gnawed her tits off. "... brought fajita's to central Texas?" I beg to differ. My dad's family was from Manor, raised crops and animals, brought fresh food to the Guajardo store in Austin, Paw-paw had a bar at 3rd & Congress, El Galindo (chips) was dad's uncle. Austin food; Schlotzky's - "There is no substitute-skys" Shakey's Pizza, before Mr. Gattis, Bergstrom AFB Bowling Alley hamburgers, Del Valle schools (subsidized by BAFB), fresh cinnamon rolls in the morning, The Jet Drive-in, Saigon egg rolls on the Drag, Cisco's breakfast, The Stallion, T-Bones & Peach Cobbler at Texas Tumbleweed on 2222, Coupland Inn used to have all-you-can-eat-BBQ, Casita Jorge's margaritas before a game, The Bucket $.15/beers, Armadillo nachos, Les Amis. -
A: Ukraine took the gloves off. Similar to Refineries, what exactly Ukraine damaged is important, and very difficult to tell. Refineries >> Pipelines >> Compressor & Pump Stations >> Storage Tanks. The pipelines themselves are buried, and in the pump & compressor stations, most of the lines are buried, so it is difficult to know what was damaged without an idea what was there to begin with. Fluids move through pipes like a water hose, high pressure at one end, low pressure on the other. To fully utilize a long haul pipeline, you add booster stations along the pipeline to boost the pressures and increase the capacity. Gas is compressible, and a compressor is used to increase the pressure in the pipe. Liquids are not compressible, and a pump is used to increase the pressure in the pipeline. The functions between the two are similar in that both pipelines have friction losses (pressure drops), but the mechanics are very different. "Hydraulics" for the lay person, "Fluid Mechanics" for the enlightened ones. The Urengoy Pipeline transports gas from Siberia to Ukraine to Slovakia, some 2800 miles, with 42 compressor stations along the way. They are spaced 60-80 miles apart, depending on the topography, among other things. Blowing up the pipeline is more damaging than blowing up a single booster station. When Ukraine "invaded" Russia earlier this year (last year?), they damaged a gas measurement facility on this pipeline, which caused a bigger accounting issue than an operational one. The pipeline itself has a maximum operating pressure, and the higher the pressure, the higher the volumes moved (throughput). A single midpoint booster station (pumps or compressors) basically doubles the throughput of a pipeline, by increasing the pressure to offset the pressure drop. With the multiple booster stations on a pipeline, you end up with a "saw tooth" pressure profile along the pipeline, with each station boosting the pressure to set point, (MAOP). In the diagram below, with only Station "A" at the beginning of the pipeline, the volumes transported to the Terminal are "X". Adding a midpoint booster at Station "C" would increase the throughput to "2X". Adding Stations "B", "C" and "D" would would increase the throughput to "4X". Any capacity reduction at any one station could be minimized by changing the operating conditions at the stations before and after the affected station, with a minimal decrease in the throughput. Most of Russia's pipelines are operating at much lower volumes due to sanctions, so any longer term interruptions from any one station would be minimal. If the mainlines were also damaged at a station, that is a much different scenario. Large diameter pipeline explosions make nice pictures. A huge fireball that goes full throttle until the pipeline fuel is consumed, with the dynamic effect similar to a large jet engine on afterburner, with a 50 mile long mile tank feeding it. Urengoy Pipeline Explosion Careful, you could put an eye out if you get too close. Crazy eyes. Let me get on, and turn her loose. I can last for 8 seconds. Oh, wait.
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GOD DAMMIT TO HELL!!!! I was typing a long response, did a quick search in the wrong window, bounced out of Surly, OH, SHIT!!! I hit the back button, and nothing was there!
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Most welcome. I was hired into a Management Development Program to find engineers that could run a company that was 100 years old, in 1975. It was all about training and development. My tangent was facilities planning and commercial development. Believe it or not, the opportunity to share information about O&G to some sweet thing you come across doesn't happen as often as you would think. When it does, don't. I learned that right out of the gate. I graduated 3 months after 3 Mile Island and at the start of Iranian Revolution, and went to work for a regulated piece of the oil industry that was in danger of making too much money. They damn sure weren't going to stop making it. Hard for a new hire to justify the 300% bump in gasoline prices while I'm buying you drinks. "You don't save the company money on your expense account, you save them money by doing a good job." Jack Issel: Exactly what is our side of the Allenville story? Max Landsberger: Were losing money hand over fist. Jack Issel: That's not true. Max Landsberger: No, but it's our side of the story. Lesson No.55: there are no truths, only stories. I did find a better line. "I've got coc..."
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@PTINS one of those areas, this is apparently the second time in a few days so Iβm guessing they have solid intel on what damage they did the first time and then did a follow-up. I preface my comments with the realization that drones and drone warfare, and Ukrainian ingenuity, are light years ahead of where they were just 3 years ago. With that said, the very recent strategic strikes on the critical nodes within the Russian Oil & Gas are far much damaging to Russia, their economy, and their ability to make war, than lighting up the random fuel depots and terminals scattered across a big ass country. On a short term basis, hitting those depots has value, as it delays Russian offensive movements in theatre, and saves Ukrainian lives. The Pump Station they hit in atomheart's quoted post was a good one to hit. First, it burns. Like always, it is hard to tell what they actually hit. It is a mainline Pump Station on a big oil pipeline, with the priorities being the pipeline itself, the pumping facilities, and the storage tanks. Tanks are not my favorites, but these are big tanks, ~240' diameter, ~ 240,000 bbl each (10,00,000 gallons). They have had 6 of them, which were probably full, ~ 1,500,000 million bbl, 60,000,000 gallons, ~ $500,000,000 in oil. If the storage is all they hit, that alone is a damn good payout. If they hit the pumps and pipeline, just more gravy on top. Yes, "I see ample evidence of a misspent youth." Opps, Sorry. (The comment my GM at Amoco said when he saw me playing pool in a bar in Eunice, Louisiana.) I see ample evidence that Ukraine has opened the file cabinets in the basements and pulled drawings of Russian Oil & Gas infrastructure (most of which was probably designed by Ukraine); Refinery process and flow diagrams, facility plot plans, pipeline alignment sheets, pump & compressor station locations, and ... Gas Processing Plants. Ukraine hit the same Astrakhan Gas Processing plant in February. (I will attach my earlier comments in a separate post.) As mentioned before, refineries have many distinct process units, including upgraded versions of similar processes that have improved over time, spread out over a 1,000+ acre footprint. It would be very difficult to knock it out 100%. Gas Processing Plants are very linear, a series of sequential processes that process natural gas into finished, usable, end use products. First the impurities are removed (oil, water, carbon dioxide, various sulfur compounds), the Natural Gas Liquids are removed from the gas stream, making the residue gas into a saleable product, and the NGLs are fractionated into 5 distinct commercial products that each have various uses, including as feedstocks to refineries and petrochemical plants, to make other finished products, including propane, gasoline and diesel. Disrupting any link in the process basically shuts down the process. The closer to the beginning, the more serious the disruption. Strike on the Astrakhan gas processing plant "The General Staff also confirmed the outcome of an earlier operation: on September 22, the Defense Forcesβ long-range weapons struck the Astrakhan gas processing plant, causing damage to production areas and the suspension of part of the technological cycle. This GPP is one of the largest gas-chemical complexes in the world and a major producer of sulphur for Russiaβs industrial needs." Astrakhan Gas Plant in Russia has ceased operations "Three industry sources have confirmed that the Astrakhan Gas Processing Plant, owned by energy giant Gazprom in Russia, stopped producing motor fuel after an attack by drones caused a fire on September 22, according to three sources. The fire was said to have engulfed an entire condensate unit that had a production capacity of three million metric tonnes per year. It produces diesel and gasoline. The plant near the Caspian sea, about 1,675 km [It is only ~ 700 km, 400 miles] from the Ukrainian border could only resume production within a few weeks or months. Gazprom didn't immediately respond to a comment request. Igor Babushkin said in a message sent via Telegram on Monday, that drones had targeted an industrial enterprise. He did not mention the company. As of Monday, the St Petersburg commodity exchange has ceased selling wholesale fuel parcels produced by Astrakhan. Early in February, drones also struck the plant and halted fuel production. According to industry sources, the damaged unit resumed operation at the end August. According to industry sources, in 2024 the plant will process 1.8 million tonnes of stable condensate and produce 800,000 metric tons of gasoline, 600,00 metric tons of diesel, and 300,000 metric tons of fuel oil." Reporting and Editing by Alison Williams, September 23, 2025 - source: Reuters Whatever Ukraine damaged in February, it took Russia 6 months to get the plant back online. With Ukraine's bigger and better drones and targeting accuracy, this may have been a haymaker. All it takes is a spark, or combing your hair, and ...
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Sunday morning I listened to part of a Youtube video with Wiltfong on it. I was doing other stuff, but he said a number of times that these Florida guys, both Texas commits and commits to other schools, were in Austin to see Texas v. Sam Houston State, when they could have stayed home and visited Florida & Miami, or the schools they were committed to. He is not a Texas pumper, but he seemed somewhat intrigued with how Texas sits in the recruiting world these days. -
FIFY Pure speculation on my part. It is like a big machine with lots of moving parts that needs constant attention, along with periodic predictive and preventative maintenance. When you start postponing, delaying and canceling the maintenance, the machine gradually starts slowing down, until it seizes up, and stops. Battle of the Bulge stuff. The more infrastructure Ukraine damages, the more critical the remaining infrastructure becomes. Refining is not something you can just throw more people at. I don't think those Russian refineries are "coming back" until the sanctions are lifted. You cannot build world class OIL & GAS facilities during a war. If the local people can't get gasoline and diesel, it won't be long until the trains can't get it, and they stop moving, which is absolutely critical in Russia. If they can't move what little they make, then what? No money, no jobs, no food, no heat and no friends. Extreme Theory? What is the worst that could happen? When Russia is facing the same existential crisis they forced upon Ukraine, then what? That is a dark hole to wonder down. TLDR Ukraine has targeted most of Russia's refineries to some degree, with the exception of those in far eastern Russian. To what degree they were damaged? No idea. Ukraines more recent attacks, where they have targeted specific process towers, tells me they are not just lobbing grenades any more, but more likely, they have access to the refineries Process Flow Diagrams and plot plans, that detail the critical process towers and equipment, and the specific locations of the equipment. Ukraine has been hitting moving targets at will, hitting a static refinery process tower that has a John Hancock like infrared signature, is easier than shooting fish in a barrel. Both Biden & Trump, and most of the EU, have had a heavy thumb on Ukraines targeting of certain Russian O&G facilities and operations, those mostly likely to impact gasoline and diesel prices at home. After 3 years of Russian fuckery, Ukraine has taken the gloves off. Oil prices have decreased from $100+ BBL to $60, because so much "sanctioned" Russian oil is still coming into the market. This reinforces the obvious; blowing shit up works a lot better than repeated hollow diplomatic threats. Refineries are more critical as they make what is needed domestically, they are also well defined choke points on crude oil production. They are literally are the fuel that drives the domestic economy, with the excess crude feeding the export market. Some of the internet threads and posts have alluded to a "product ring" around Moscow, inferring there is a series of product pipelines surrounding the Moscow region, with access to multiple refineries feeding it from different directions. As long as Moscow is happy, nobody gives a shit. More recently Ukraine has targeted everything; refining, product pipelines, pump stations and domestic oil depots (refined products), and export terminals for both products and crude exports. The cumulative effect of all of that will be more critical as time passes. Replacing the refinery process towers takes a long time. The towers themselves are custom, fit for purpose, long delivery time items. They are big, ~10-15 ft in diameter, 100+ ft tall, with a special metallurgy suitable for operating at high temperatures and pressures, in a very corrosive, and toxic environment. Cook up and smelt all the right ingredients into thick steel plates, roll the plates into cylinders, weld all the cylinders together, cut multiple openings into the cylinders, weld custom flanges and fittings into the holes, heat treat and stress relieve the finished product, load it on a special rail car and move it (without anybody finding out), erect a big ass crane, stand it up and bolt it down. Then connect all the receipt and delivery piping to the myriad of pumps, compressors, coolers, condensers, heaters, and heat exchangers, and all the valves and instrumentation and wires and cables, all of which are also special ordered equipment. And then paint it, weatherize it for winter (Real winter, not Texas winter), and insulate everything. The probability that the skilled labor required to do all these things is sitting around waiting for something to do is about 0.0%; they are probably pushing up sunflowers in Ukraine. Bottom line, reduced Russian refining is going to impact Russia immediately, and for a long time. Not just the war effort, but much more. The one thing Russia had going for it was the world needed Russia's oil production. Oil prices are down to half of what they were a few years ago. That doesn't mean we don't need Russia's oil; we just don't need it right now. It is almost funny to see Trump trying to strong arm China & India into stop buying Russian oil. Where are they supposed to get it from?
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"According to preliminary information, the drones hit the ELOU-AVT-4 unit - the heart of the plant. It first cleans oil from water and salts, and then converts it into gasoline, diesel, kerosene, and fuel oil. A strong fire and a black column of smoke are observed on the plant's territory," the source said. The fact of damage to the refinery was also confirmed by representatives of the Bashkortostan authorities. That is the way to do it. A++ (Sorry, A+. I've been reading the recruiting pages too much) A surgical strike at the main process tower that removes the impurities and separates the crude oil into the various transportation fuels. The entire vertical column is enveloped in flames, with a single column of thick black smoke (fuel burning >> oxygen supply) rising high into the sky. The longer it burns, the hotter the oil gets, the faster it vaporizes, the easier it burns, the bigger the fire and the hotter it gets. Too hot of a fire to put out with water, you have to remove the fuel source, which means shutting off valves. The instrumentation and automated control systems, if they had any to begin with, and if they survived the initial explosion, probably melted within the first few minutes, meaning the valves would have to be closed manually. "disco inferno (Burn, baby, burn) burn that mother down (Burn, baby, burn) disco inferno, yeah (Burn, baby, burn) burn that mother down (burnin'!)"
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They can decrease the purchases from Russia. They won't decrease the purchases entirely, at least not willingly. This comes up a lot. Worldwide Oil Production ~ 100,000,000 Barrels/day (BPD). The US, Saudi Arabia, and Russia eash produce over 10,000,000 BPD. Nobody else is anywhere close, few even produce half that amount. In a balanced market, cutting off 10+% of the supply affects 100% of the market. The US is probably the only market where people bitch about gasoline & diesel prices. Everybody else knows they import crude oil and refined products, and understands they are pawns in the market place. The US is also a pawn, but everybody in the US believes it is their birthright to always have cheap gas. Oh, and the collective mindset of the US, it what you would expect from a bunch of idiots. The US leads the world in oil production, and also leads the world in oil consumption, by a significant amount. A large portion of the "US consumption" is actually crude oil used to make refined transportation fuels that are exported and actually consumed by the importing countries. The US produced and imported oil is refined in the US, the gasoline mostly stays here, and the excess diesel is exported. With Russia as a pariah, and the US watching/endorsing Israel bombing Qatar, I would expect the Middle East-US mindset to be neutral at best, meaning the US would be in a bidding war for crude oil; Exxon, Chevron & Conoco bidding against Europe, China, India, Japan, S. Korea, etc. To replace 1,000,000 BPD of "lost" oil production would take ~ 300 new wells in the permian. Each well 10,000 feet down, another 10,000 foot "lateral, at a cost of $10,000,000/well, or $3 Billion total, with a "B". Nobody in the US is drilling based on $60 oil. Prices have to move up first. Stopping Russian exports is the first domino. Yes, any fireball on the horizon in Russia is a good thing. Mostly, it is just shut-in in place underground. Russia could earn some "good will" by paying it forward to Turkey & China and others, but producing and giving it away has a chance of future benefits, whereas the shut-in gas is worth nothing. Hitting any Russian Refinery. anywhere is good. just for the optics. But not all attacks are equal. The new Saratov Refinery attack caused a fire in the red polygon. That appears to be proximate to some manifolds and some above ground piping. Nothing that seems to be critical and out of commission for very long period. A google screen shot shows the fire location relative to the refinery footprint. IMO, hitting anything in the yellow polygons was probably a much better target than what they hit. Recently, Ukraine has targeted, and hit, specific process towers. Those are among the highest value targets in Russia, because they reduce fuel production, reduce export revenue, and are very difficult to replace, given sanctions and difficulties Russia will have in getting replacement parts, controls and instrumentation. Hitting storage tanks makes big fireballs, but 2 or 3 of the larger tanks is only ~ 1 days/ worth of production. Knocking out the main process towers means a 40% reduction in total refining capacity for ~ 6 months, or longer. Seeing Ukraine specify vessel names and numbers, and hitting them, makes my heart go pitter patter.
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Any pass play that loses 5 yard needs to be shit canned and never to be seen again. Nothing kills a drive like throwing a pass 20 yards to loose 5 yards on 1st down. Most of Sarks scripted plays to start the game are dog shit. -
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