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  1. I told you the same thing the expert did but the difference is you cannot allow yourself to be schooled by someone you feel you are superior than. Even now. Even though you don't even know what you don't know, you are still being dismissive of someone even though you are being outclassed in the conversation.
  2. Ohio State has been winning consistently for seemingly ever. What in the fuck are you even talking about? We haven't been this good since 2009. Ohio State has more than 60 players in the league. They've had one losing season since 1988. 19 fucking 88. Meanwhile we just came off a stretch where we were irrelevant for 14 years Big. Let's not try to make it like the two things are ever comparable.
  3. Dude- Most people are thankful for Quinn because we remember what we had for the last decade or so(besides Sam). No one thinks Quinn did anything by himself, but we just ran the SEC with two 190lb, 3rd down backs, Juan Davis playing significant minutes, and one good wide receiver(Bond was hurt all year).Our roster isn't the monster you think it is. If you don't think so look at our roster vs Ohio State's. We ran back the same level of success after losing Worthy, Mitchell, Sanders, Brooks, Jones, Baxter, Whitt, Sweat, Murphy, Ford, and Williams.....AND transitioning to the SEC. Stability at quarterback has something to do with that.
  4. I do not think you are a dumb ass at all. It is clear you approach the game with experience. I can see that in your posts. I just think that some people are over-reliant on statistics. Even some really good coaches get caught up in the analytics sometimes. I think when you think I am explaining things I am talking to you. I am not. There are 1000's of lurkers on this thread that I am talking to. Some of those people don't understand the game and those are the people I am talking to. Take @Derka for example. He was bashing Quinn on a vertical route because he had no idea how a fade route is supposed to be run or thrown until another poster corrected him. Those are the people that need direction and explaining. You would never do that because you understand the nuances of the game. I respect that about you. I also respect that about @BurntOrange&White, and many other posters that I don't always see eye to eye with. You guys generally make this place a fun place to be and I commend you for that. So don't ever think I don't respect your knowledge because I am talking to the audience. It's a hangover from some professional roles.
  5. Lol. Nobody and I mean nobody thinks Quinn was the sole reason we won games. What I DO THINK is that our quarterback woes since Colt are why we were wandering in the desert and we finally got a solid one who was able to take advantage of the tools we had. What's weird to a lot of us is how quickly this place forgot what our other quarterbacks looked like. We went from excited to be competitive to dumb shit like insert mediocre qb would've been more successful in this offense than Ewers, as if he had nothing to do with us winning games.
  6. NO ONE is going to listen to you if your stance is that the Patriots' offense was based around airing it out. No one. Tom Brady was in the 6th round for two reasons. Lack of mobility and lack of arm strength. A 15 yard out from the opposite hash is a big time, 40 yard, NFL throw, but it still only counts as 15 yards, same as a 15 yard throw straight up the hash mark that you as the QB are standing on. In the stat book they both count the same but on the field they are very different. One is "airing it out". The other is "dink and dunk". Gronk averaged 15 yrds for his career catching balls up the seam. STATS DON'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY.
  7. This is a post that was thrown vertically instead of out in front. You know, the route that I said that Quinn struggles throwing and then @Had Enough said "With no support or context. So we’re to take this as gospel because you said so". Quinn misses this route A LOT. The throw to Worthy in the game at Bama was a post that Quinn threw vertically just Worthy adjusted to it. It's crazy to me that he misses that route to the level he does while being really good at throwing a deep dig which is much harder.
  8. Absolutely. But they had a unique recipe that worked. TEs worked the seams. A small, quick guy working the LOS, and some rando for the intermediate. So let me get this straight. Are you going to come here and tell us that the Patriots, outside of the Moss years, were a downfield passing team? Is that the business you are going to stand on?
  9. Lol. You guys HAVE TO lay off the stats. You know damn well outside of the Moss era Brady made his money in the short to intermediate passing game. There are 1000 ways to get to 8.6 yards per attempt.
  10. Yep. A huge chunk of Ewers missed downfield throws were on the same route combo where the deep guy is running a big post. He threw it vertical every. damn. time. He was very good with true verticals on his right side, and missed quite a few true verticals on his left.
  11. Its a fade. The receiver is supposed get vertical while leaving a few yards to his outside and not allow the DB to walk him to the sideline. QB is supposed to hit the receiver on the outside shoulder, guiding him away from the defender so he cannot break up the pass. Where the defender is determines where the throw should be. If the defender is on top of the receiver then the QB should throw the fade to the back shoulder. If the defender is on his hip you throw it upfield and to the outside shoulder. Literally a perfect throw.
  12. As I said previously. There was nothing magic about it. The more receivers on the field the easier it is to throw the football. Colt was a regular passer his first two years until we decided to start playing primarily 4 wide receivers. That's when his completion percentage went through the roof. Once he got into the pros and went back to passing out of pro sets his passer rating went back down. It was as simple as that. About Quinn's reads its the opposite. He goes through his progressions TOO fast. He needs to slow down and not come off reads so early. Probably because he was worried about the pass rush.
  13. I will not let you dodge the question. You challenged what I said about completion percentages and accuracy. I will not let you dodge the question. In Colt's first two years he was a mid 60's completion percentage passer. His last two years his completion percentage jumped to the 70's. What changed to make that happened and then changed back when he got to the pros? Answer the question.
  14. Also @Derka in that same game they put up a stat that I will post as a screenshot below. Ewers averaging 14 air yards per to start that game. Again, as I said above this happened repeatedly this season. Our base offense was a lot of 12 personnel out of tight or bunch sets. Our passing offense looked most fluid when we spread out with receivers outside the hashes. However, that is not Sark's offense so we never ran full games like that. But again, you are too filled with hate for the guy to see what is right in front of your face.
  15. Okay listen dumb ass. Sometimes you need to leave the conversation to people that understand football. If you are in 12 personnel. You know double tight ends on the field, and most of the time running some type of play action where one of them stays in to block, you are going to be looking at 3 receivers out in routes vs your opponent dropping 7. Now I know this is hard for you to grasp but 3 receivers vs 7 dropping is more difficult than 5 receivers vs 7 dropping. Why? Because your opponent has the ability to double team all three, vs with 5 3 of them are single covered. PLUS 5 wide makes the defense have to declare their coverage. That is not an excuse. That is simple football 101. The NFL used to have completion percentages in the 50's back before they realized 3 and 4 receivers was a good idea. Now, there are examples of this in multiple games this year where Sark would open it up for a quarter or two and inexplicably start calling heavy runs sets and grind the offense to a halt. Go look at the second Georgia game. Watch the first quarter and change where Ewers was 11-15 for 169. We were playing fast and pretty open. Now, since you don't seem to see logic in what I am telling you, explain why Colt's completion percentage jumped from the 60's to the 70's his first two years to his last two years. Then explain why his NFL career percentage was back down to 62%. What did we do differently? I will wait patiently for your answer.
  16. Your completion percentage is going to be lower throwing out of heavy run sets all the time. Less targets on the field equal tighter throwing windows. For an example of this see the jump in Colt McCoy's completion percentage when they made the switch to 4 wide his junior year, and then back down to earth once he got in the pros and running pro sets again. There is no magic elixir.
  17. I don't think it's that hard to evaluate. Teams just get caught up with measurables. From there its "we spent this much on this kid so we have to give him time" and "we didn't spend much on this kid so we need to move on as quickly as possible if it looks shaky".
  18. Yeah. How we responded dictated how the world responded as well. Us throwing our hands up instead of coming up with solution as to how to keep the world going didn't help at all.
  19. Who said Quinn threw 80 yards? Or that he was in middle school?
  20. Advanced stats are only semi useful because they don't tell you things like what kind of routes was the guy inaccurate on or what sets he was throwing out of. I said this before but it needs repeating. Some guys spend their whole college careers throwing to stationary receivers or pass friendly sets which makes them look more accurate. Hitting a deep dig or a flattened post is a lot harder than hitting a skinny post or vertical. Advanced metrics don't account for that. This simple truth is why so many NFL evaluators miss so wildly on quarterbacks.
  21. 14 is high school. My daughter was 14 in high school. She will just have turned 18 a week before she graduates.
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