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  1. I seem to recall JE running out of subs back in the Ashley Shook days when we went 5 and probably shouldn't have. It wasn't quite that bad, but left us in a bit of a spot.
  2. A later thing, I'm quite sure. You're conflating subsequent idealization of Reagan with how it really was at the time. The point, again, being that Americans, particularly lower class ones, did not feel so completely abandoned and misused by the government during the Reagan era. I think the Clinton administration probably started to solidify working class not feeling well-served by the government. Also Obama, but in no small part because he couldn't get anything done other than Obamacare. And I'm not necessarily blaming either one, but corporate control of #bothsides took pretty serious hold post-Reagan. So there weren't cultists calling past Republicans RINOs and shitting on members of their own party who didn't tow the line. The free shit army didn't vote for Reagan. They did for Trump. Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Reagan here. But there are vast differences between America now and America then, including among the electorate. He was popular, yes, but for conventional reasons, not the same kind of thing as Trump.
  3. Elaborating on the above, because it's possibly worthy of discussing, maybe moreso in the Democratic party thread. But when Reagan was elected, he was seen as more progressive than Nixon for example, although some considered him a Goldwater Republican. The latter may be more correct through the lens of history. But it's important to note, I think, that the American people at that point didn't feel broadly let down by their government. The 70s sucked shit economically and Carter got saddled with a lot of that, part rightly and part wrongly. But there absolutely was not the lower classes feeling as completely abandoned as they do now, and by #bothsides, as bozo relentlessly reminds us. We were still at the tail end of the post-war boom and petrodollar economics were just starting to assert themselves as a major issue. Yes, Reagan had a lot to do with letting them further down (trickle down) and with engendering distrust of government, but it wasn't the thing that it is today that has people so wildly voting against their own interest.
  4. Here's some actual footage of the incident. Almost without doubt a political plant. And the student in question is a dumbshit.
  5. Oh fuck off, the above is completely non-responsive to what I posted. Do you ever do anything besides repeat yourself? Gaslighting my ass. I rarely neg but you got one. I was alive and of voting age during the Reagan revolution, and while yes there are some things that trace a direct line, there were about zero of the cultish aspects of the Trump administration present in that era.
  6. All of that is no doubt true. But barring immigration inquiries, arrests, and detention based on ethnicity is really unmanageable because of the nature of immigration. Maybe you could take detention off the table so the inquiries have no "penalty," but that doesn't seem realistic either.
  7. J'Accuse! Fucking narc tattletale.
  8. Give her the kneeshooters? Possibly more seriously, roughly half of this country would seem to go along with a new country with a similar Constitution with a lot of the vagary and experimental shit taken out. The only problem might be wresting the territory from the existing US.
  9. It's ackhuly called legal analysis. Something SCOTUS, as well as surly, is notoriously short on. Maybe we should start to design a new country.
  10. You're right, never said it would. But that's what SHOULD happen with this.
  11. Ie Robert Malone.
  12. For a bit of perspective on this, we've always known there is a lower threshold than probable cause for immigration-related stops as the lawdogs spent hours telling VAPA, years ago. This low? Maybe not. And, the reason ethnicity is prohibited for criminal stops is that ethnicity is an invidious (extremely unfair) indicator of criminality or criminal activity in most cases, the exception being when the suspect has been identified as someone of a particular ethnicity. But, ethnicity is kind of an unavoidable criterion when it comes to immigration. Also, legally, immigration/removal/deportation is not criminal so the protections against unreasonable search and seizure are lower because the prosecution apparatus is not triggered. I think that should be rethought, though, and it's not whether the criminal apparatus is invoked, but whether the government seeks to detain whether civilly, or criminally, or otherwise. THAT is the deprivation of liberty we're concerned with. not whether a criminal proceeding is invoked, because the net result is the same. That's not to say that I agree with any of this shit, but there are a lot of historical SCOTUS, including liberal ones, that would have come to a similar "conclusion."
  13. I think this points up a problem we have as a nation and that is that a lot of MAGAts don't identify as Republicans or Trump as a Republican. They view both Rs and Ds as part of the establishment that has fucked them over. They view Trump as outside the establishment. And until and unless Ds come up with some kind of antidisestablishmentarian candidate, they'll never get MAGAt votes. Then again, the R candidate that follows Trump probably won't get their votes, either.
  14. And young men are no more demonized than white people generally.
  15. Boomers win that in a landslide. If for no other reason than there are so damned many of them. And what boomers did to GenX makes what GenX did to their children pale by comparison.
  16. And that shit's in an industry database anyway.
  17. Being the biggest asshole on a site by and for assholes is an accomplishment.
  18. Yeah, I suspect there's quite a tension in the youth between going with their natural inclination to be accepting and external forces opposing that.
  19. Right, exactly what I was thinking. The "liberality" of higher education is a natural result and not the product of liberal or progressive indoctrination, it's "organic." But whatever the source, be it Turning Point or twatterx or insular retrograde parenting, the current wave of youth ideology and intolerance is intentional and external.
  20. Answering the broader question, the young are always/usually/often idealistic to the point of being ideologues, with the attendant intolerance of the status quo or other notions. Historically, that's taken the form of utopian and other pretty impractical notions that are identified with progressives or liberals. So, it's a bit startling to see these retrograde ideologues cropping up. So it seems that it may be six of one, half a dozen of the other. However, I think the liberal idealism is a more natural result of new autonomy and exposure to new ideas. That is, the reason that higher education is progressive by its very nature, as opposed to the result of some sort of political influence or indoctrination. This retrograde idealism is definitely a product of indoctrination.
  21. So what does Clinton's letter say? A bunch of that shit above is creepy as fuck.
  22. We had come a long way since then.
  23. I will say this, too. When I wrote above, evidently incorrectly, about university administrators not taking official adverse action based on student protest or denunciation, I was basing it on my own observation of mostly "local" meaning in-state events. In keeping with what Texas used to be, I'm thinking the administrations were pretty live-and-let-live about this sort of thing, borne out by what Welsh did even at the highly conservative lapdog eaTme. Whereas it seems the historical sanctions came from more east coast type places (Central Florida, wth?). The futility of student protests and denunciations at local unis was one of the hallmarks of them. Again, see shanty. So much for that.
  24. Ok then. I can clearly recall student protests from the left on various things that never amounted to anything, as well as the ones where student groups sponsoring controversial speakers canceled events. I didn't recall any adverse administration action or certainly the federal government getting involved. But I am old. Shanty out front should have told you. Nonetheless, that report indicates that external pressure from the right recently has accelerated, rather exponentially.
  25. Too late to edit, but the above is, I believe, why Talarico among others is not usually explicitly Christian or biblical in his criticism and attacks on the very unchristian things going on in the lege and elsewhere. Part of the whole deal of real Christianity is the humility not to try to tell others they're doing it wrong because you have your own hands full trying not to do it wrong. As is often said by right-thinking folks around here "I'm not a Christian, but I'm trying." I have, however, made the same complaint about Islam in that it seems that the sane followers do nothing to restrain the insane ones. I assume, but don't know that Islam has the same sort of teachings about personal humility and religious righteousness.
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