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  1. Nothing says down on the farm like Melodyne, amirite
  2. That is definitely way beyond my knowledge of All American Rejects.
  3. I'm not the biggest fan of their tunes, but I give those guys credit for actually being pretty cool and funny. They have been throwing impromptu backyard shows this year at random houses. And the lead singer is starting an OnlyFans for some reason.
  4. Oh man I forgot all about that song.
  5. I think most people are getting hung up on style over substance. Like I said, the first band that really made me stop and notice this was Korn. And one of the hardest all time dudes was Gordon Lightfoot. But to your bigger point, I wasn't speaking about sadness, that is endemic to so much great music. Though I'm not a big Cure stan I must confess. It's an emotional stunting, and I'm not sure passive is exactly the right word. Somewhere between passive and reactive maybe is more accurate. It's the notion of events happening to you as opposed to you being an active player in them, a complete lack of agency. In quote it would be the difference between "Well fuck man, this shit sucks" and "Poor me, life's unfair wahhh". People like to point out all the travails of the millennials, which there are a bunch ( 9/11, 08' crash, etc..) but as I said this predates all that. I think it's suburban boredom and ennui personally. There's obviously too many great songs about shitty things than I can count, but just off the top of my head a song from the early aught's that is the opposite of what I'm saying is Pretty Fucked UP by the SUpersuckers, It's about his girl cheating on him, which is no fun, but the message isn't poor me, it's fuck that bitch. This obviously isn't some super heavy aggressive song, that's not what I mean. It's relating to it's subject in a proactive manner. That's definitely a crime in and of itself.
  6. Haha, good times.
  7. Plus the all timer.
  8. Hell yeah. I got my Koffs sticker on my toolbox and buttons on the grill cloth of my 4 x 12 I use with my BF Bassman.
  9. I love some DBT
  10. Keep you on your toes around here.
  11. I see where you went wrong
  12. What the fuck did I just read
  13. Accurate
  14. Dauphine starts on Sunday folks.
  15. I use neck straps
  16. Wednesday is pretty awesome, I've followed them on IG for quite sometime. I'm glad to see them getting exposure finally.
  17. No, the opposite, Sparta. Jim Ward was his name. I've only just realized I omitted one of the absolute worst offenders. And definitely my generation, Marilyn Manson.
  18. So actually I think this is part of what I'm talking about, while I think it's symptomatic and not a cause, these things are absolutely other markers of what is going on. I would never! As far as At the Drive In, the one guitarist was ok and started a pretty decent band, the singer however is a fucking douche canoe and absolute poster child for this shit. Absolute bitch made pussy with the emotional fortitude of an 8 year old.
  19. Her collaboration with Patrick L was one of the best songwriting runs ever. I was listening to Material Girl earlier.
  20. So yeah, I specifically mentioned that it was style agnostic. In fact, it probably came through in heavier music more than light stuff now that I think about it. I mean Gordon Lightfoot was one of the hardest motherfuckers out. But when people post At the Drive IN, it's literally the thing I'm talking about to a tee. I'll just reiterate some things since some of it is kind of getting glossed over. What I'm really talking about is a larger mass cultural phenomenon and the only real part of this related to music is that obviously culture gets expressed through music, so it shows up there. And I wasn't even specifically talking about lyrics, though they certainly carry a lot of the message. It's more just an entire way of being. I also was not referring to a particular generation, but more a moment in time. If anything, it started with the tail end of my generation, Gen X and disaffected suburban kids who had no real challenges in life other than to complain about their fee fees. But I really don't subscribe to much in the way of generational stereotypes. There's certain commonalities, but they aren't monoliths. Hell I have been fairly out of step with my generation my whole life, yet I embody Gen X stereotypes more than almost anyone I know. It was just a general shift to professional victimhood and letting life happen to you instead of taking ownership of your own life. Proactive vs reactive. It's how a large segment of society related to the world they inhabited. And these people have always existed, hell I have them in my family, but it became very widespread. I also don't think there was no music from this time period that was good. I think I mentioned in this thread actually Social Distortion put out a great album, Supersuckers did a couple good ones, Dropkick Murphys, Bad Religion. Florence and the Machine put out Lungs in this time period I think? MGMT was starting. And funny enough celeryman mentioned Mumford and Sons, I am not a big Mumford stan, but Little Lion Man is like 180 degrees from what I am talking about. A totally self actualized song. My Chemical Romances cover of Desolation Row is one of my top 5 covers ever. But then again it was written by Dylan. And as I mentioned there was a change in the mid teens. Isbell and Stapleton really on the scene. Revivalists have been good. I named Broken by lovelytheband already, but I can't name everything clearly these are just some that spring to mind from that time. Also, the 60s folk guys, And I'm 100% sure @Celery Man is reading my take in early aught bands
  21. Yeah, I get that you are, and I'm sure I'm not adequately describing it. But it's really just passivity/reactive action vs affirmative action, that's all. At the Drive In is definitely one of the poster child bands for this. Screaming and yelling and banging your guitar doesn’t mean you aren't reactive and whiny. It's like a temper tantrum onstage. You know the scene in Dazed and Confused where Newhouse is in the back seat and goes all tearful and yells "I wanna dance!". It's basically that.
  22. I know, fucking jokes on me obviously! My Morning Jacket, that is like exactly the type of band I think of. Did I call them pussies or did I say limp and passive? I can't remember actually, but the latter would be more accurate. And like I said this started in the mid 90s. Korn was the first one that really made me stop and ask wtf was going on, but you have you Linkin Parks, your At the Drive Ins, you name it. It seems like it started to shift mid 2010s. Stuff like lovelytheband's Broken was one of the ones from that era that I noticed a different vibe starting, along with all the stuff like Isbell and Stapleton, through a lot of indie rock like Ryan Hamilton and Kurt Baker. It really isn't genre specific as I said.
  23. If you look at the sentence before the one you quoted you would see.
  24. Man, I knew this was gonna get way off track which is why I was hesitant to even respond. Lyrics are not even really what I'm describing, though they can be a part of it. The only reason I even brought up Modest Mouse in the first place was because it's just one of those bands my drummer was really into with some of our other friends, could be like Band of Horses or whatever, I wouldn't get so hung up on a particular band. My general thought about Modest Mouse is essentially the Don Draper " I don't think of you at all" line.
  25. No, it's really just what I said. The passivity of letting things happen to you versus positive action of controlling events and your own mental/spiritual/whatever condition. As mentioned it was a a broader culture thing that found expression in music as well. The most concise way I've found to express it is it's "oh poor me" vs. "Imma punch you in the fucking face".
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