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  1. 3 minutes ago, texifornia said:

    Weirder still, Thibodeaux and Elko aren't chumps - they recruit well and usually identify talent well, but both of these dudes scream JAG. Who knows?

    Agreed. I know that c19 has made things esp challenging in terms of evaluations - esp up front. Having said that, I think the talent gap between McClellan and Roberts is pretty fucking clear.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Teamdirtyleg said:

    what does he means by “ramifications on A&M’s end”?  

    he's pacifying his base. this is the same group that buys "the worm is turning" and shit year after year, so he throws out some platitudes (even one that doesn't make sense because "ramification on A&M's end"?) that hint at decisive aggy action (best done in secret, no less) and how they aren't just going to take this lying down and you give the rubes the out that they want and need - delusions of grandeur. 

  3. 12 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

    paywall

    here it is ::

     

     

    Spoiler

    Steve Sarkisian addresses evaluations and the recruiting side of his organization just about every time he gets in front of a microphone.

    As he’s said on a number of occasions, recruiting is the lifeblood of the program, and he’s incredibly hands-on with that process. Before a prospect can be recruited, they must be identified and evaluated. As support staffs have grown in the last decade, more teams are moving toward an NFL model with their player personnel departments.

    Texas has been slowly expanding in that area over the last few years, but Sarkisian wants to make sure they can maximize the ability to identify and recruit talent. When asked about his department structure during his press conference at the THSCA Coaches Convention on Sunday, Sarkisian gave a brief overview of the nuts and bolts.

    “I think at the end of the day, if you looked at an NFL player-personnel department, you’ve got your director or whatever you want to call it and you’ve got your director of player personnel on the side. Then you’ve got your offensive and defensive guys who oversee that department. You have people below them who are basically your area scouts.

    “We’re basically structured the same way in essence. In turn, ultimately the coaches do their evaluation and I end up being the general manager or head coach. We make the call on do we offer or do we not. We rank our board and we do it like a draft. This is to not knock anybody, but we just don’t trust anyone else’s evaluation whether it be an internet site or anybody else. It has to come down to ours because ultimately we are the ones signing the player.”


    So, who are the key players in this structure and what are their functions? Horns247 has been gathering information on the department to break it all down.


    Billy Glasscock – Director of Player Personnel

    Steve Sarkisian sits at the top of the organizational chart, and Glasscock is the person he filters everything through. While Sarkisian tabbed himself as the GM, Glasscock is more of the General Manager in this structure. Recruiting is only part of his job as he also oversees the transfer market, walk-ons and overall roster management. Glasscock oversees the entire department and answers only to Sarkisian. His role is less of a recruiter - though he does his share when players and their families are on campus – and more of an organizer. His priority is to make sure his team is working efficiently, the board is always up to date, and every other department is working toward the overall strategy.


    Brandon Harris – Director of Recruiting

    Harris works with Glasscock to oversee the recruiting department. Harris serves as the chief communicator in a structure where there is a separation between communicators and organizers. His experience as a college athlete and youth makes him a valuable tool for recruiting young athletes. Harris answers directly to Steve Sarkisian, but he also filters things through Glasscock to make sure the flow of information is organized and being sent to the right people. Harris facilitates relationships with key recruits and somewhat serves as the face of the operation. While he isn’t as visible as Bryan Carrington was in the role, Harris works tirelessly behind the scenes to make sure Texas stays top of mind for many of the top prospects on the board.

    Chris Gilbert – Director of High School Relations

    Gilbert has been much different in his role than several of his predecessors. While his top priority is ensuring strong relationships with high school coaches around the state, he’s also been able to assist as a recruiter. Because of his relationships with parents and coaches, Gilbert has been able to augment some recruitments for Texas by stepping in and working on the relationship. It would be fair to consider Gilbert on the same tier as Glasscock as he answers directly to Sarkisian.

    Taylor Searels – Director of On Campus Recruiting

    The next tier includes all of the departments that report up to Glasscock. We will start with Searels who is asked to oversee all aspects of visits. Searels works with Assistant Director of On Campus Recruiting Courtney Helom to oversee a team of interns. This team makes sure all aspects of a visit are as good as they can be for Texas. That includes figuring out travel logistics, making sure the room is stocked with the right snacks, putting together a weekend full of the right events to keep families entertained on official visit weekends and showing off Texas in the best way possible. Think of them as a sort of cruise director who keeps everything moving while families are there.

    JM Jones – Assistant Director of Player Personnel – Offense

    As Sarkisian mentioned, splitting the evaluation process into offense and defense was key for him. Jones is a long-time staffer at Texas going back over the last few staffs. Having started as a student assistant, Jones worked his way up to be an assistant DPP under the last staff. He was retained by Sarkisian and put over the offensive side of the ball. Jones oversees a team of recruiting analysts and interns who work alongside the coaches. Each assistant has some sort of analyst or graduate assistant that works with them and a recruiting analyst or intern on the personnel side. Jones’ team cuts film makes initial evaluations and help when recruits are on campus.


    Cole Moore – Assistant Director of Player Personnel – Defense

    Moore mirrors Jones’ role on the defensive side of the ball. A former Montana State athlete who played for Jeff Choate, Moore got into the coaching side after his college career wrapped up by working at Washington as a GA. Like Jones, Moore’s group assists the defensive coaches in identifying and evaluating prospects. Moore’s background working with Choate and Pete Kwiatkowski gives him a great idea of what they are looking for in potential recruits, and he’s been a big hit with some of the families we spoke with who have been recruited and hosted by Moore.


    Jake Langi – Recruiting Analyst/Special Projects

    Langi’s position is somewhat unclear, but his twitter bio has him tabbed as an analyst who oversees “Special Projects.” In the past, Langi has been heavily involved in the JUCO evaluations and tasked with being the relationship builder on certain recruitments where he has connections. As an elder statesman amongst the analysts there, Langi seems to have an assignment that isn’t attached to the offensive or defensive side. 

     

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  4. 48 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

    The WR recruiting is just bizarre. For awhile Thompson was the only offer out, while Clemson fell behind with Greene and Williams. 

    I think Clemson is moving slower as a whole, in terms of offers and legitimate pursuit. I don't know if it's evals being slowed by c19 or if it's simply not wanting to fill up too quickly. It seems like once they've decided that they move swiftly. It seems like the DB recruiting paints the picture (to me) first you had Pride and Covil once they were in the boat and the class floor was set the focus went to the big fish in Everette and Sabb. 

  5. 42 minutes ago, Fud said:

    No OU? 

    Drumm had an update a week or so that was pretty brutal on Greene, sounds like they got Mack'd.  (*Edit - found it). 

     

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    A week or so ago, I reported that 2022 four-star WR Andre Greene would be likely to take a visit back to Norman on July 31st. Well, that visit and the Sooners' chances with Greene have slipped up quite a bit in the last week or so.

    Now, that doesn't mean that there never will be a visit down the road or that OU has completely moved on, but I can tell you that sources that were once pretty confident in Oklahoma's chances with Greene have now started to feel like OU may need to look in another direction when it comes to getting a third WR in the 2022 class. A source with knowledge told me recently, "It just seems like Greene and his family are looking for something a bit closer to home as a fit," the source said about Greene's recruitment and the Sooners. "It looks like he will be at UNC and Clemson during the time he was originally looking at visiting Oklahoma."

     

     

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  6. 1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

    This right here is why we should leave the Big 12. What’s the point in elevating programs like TCU, Baylor, or Tech and giving them P5 conference revenue so they can use it to negative recruit the shit out of us and try to poach all of our recruits? Would Guilbeau actually be considering TCU if they were in the AAC? 

    SMU says, yes. 

    I don't disagree with your premise for the most part because: fuck Baylor most of all but I will say that NIL creates several changes in the landscape and schools like TCU, UCF, and SMU (even Cougar High if they could unfuck themselves) because of their markets and donor base can punch far above their previously limiting weight class. Yes, the NIL should and will be a massive boon for schools like Texas and USC but there are several G5 schools that stand to provide a much bigger and better return with NIL than bottom-feeding P5 schools. SMU players are going to see a lot more money, esp over the long haul, than guys at Oregon State or Washington State for example. They also stand to benefit from the playoff expansion by giving them a legitimate shot at the brass ring, albeit a very small window. 

    Blue bloods always have and always will be carrying the rest of the conference. You could replace TCU, Baylor, and Tech with Mississippi State, South Carolina, and Missouri and have the same conversation about the SEC. Ditto the B1G, ACC, and the PAC. 

     

  7. 3 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

    if I can nitpick, they overlapped at UW for a couple years but were at SC at different times.  Sounds like you're basing your opinion on conjecture but havent heard anything since Becton got to UT.  Got it.

    I'm not talking about Becton in terms of S&C per se - I'm talking about his impact on recruiting. This entire conversation was specific to the original point that a position coach (Sark and Flood) should be able to point to the NFL draft and say we developed X and make it rain on the recruiting trail. I pointed out that the current messaging is that Texas trying to counter the messaging from everyone that Texas was doing more of the same. Hiring Becton was more of the same, which in turn is not a boon to recruiting. I don't think anything there is shocking. 

    As a S&C coach he's a good coach - he's a good S&C that is getting his team in game shape. Like I said though "No one is choosing OU because of Bennie Wylie and no one is choosing Texas because of Becton."

    There are S&C coaches that do make a recruiting impact and combatting the "more of the same" messaging by hiring one (or multiple) of those coaches away from their current role and into the role at Texas would've helped recruiting as well as perhaps maximizing performance and bringing in new ideas and techniques.  I don't even think that's a controversial opinion.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

     

  8. 12 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

    How do you know Becton isn't doing any of that stuff?

     

    11 minutes ago, Zhorn96 said:

    why is Torre Becton garbage now?  Is he crap cause you hadnt heard of him til he came here?

    Do you guys think S&C happens in a vacuum? Do you honestly think people don't know who different S&C coaches are and what they prefer to do and how they go about their jobs? These guys all speak at events all the time. Giving back to the coaching community is actually part of the requirements of their job and certifications. Torre Becton comes directly from the Ivan Lewis coaching tree - so what he does is known. Do you think if someone is coming from the Mike Leach coaching tree that they are likely to be running the flexbone? Lewis and Becton both worked under Sarkisian previously at USC and UW. It was a comfort hire and I said it when he was hired. This isn't new information. 

    By comparison, when Cochran left Alabama for an on-field role at UGa, Saban went and grabbed David Ballou and Dr. Matt Rhea to replace him. Those guys brought in entirely new approaches to recovery and flexibility and a ton of new analytics and research-driven ideas. He didn't even do more of the same and that "the same" at the time was undefeated seasons and guys that look like fucking cyborgs. Saban went and got more cutting edge and advanced. 

    If you compare what Becton teaches and does with guys like Joey Batson, Mickey Marotti, Tommy Moffit, Edmond and Hill at Kentucky, that assbag Feld at Oregon it's not comparable. It's Jimbo Fisher vs. Lincon Riley as QB coaches and OCs. Both have success on their resume but which guy is teaching new ideas and techniques? Bennie Wylie is in the same boat - he does a bunch of shit that he's always done because that's what people do. He's not a plus for their program, he's just the guy getting the guys in football shape. No one is choosing OU because of Bennie Wylie and no one is choosing Texas because of Becton. 

    If you guys think the S&C guys don't matter in recruiting...  I don't know what to tell you. 

     

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  9. 19 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

    The loss of Jeff Scott is most apparent in WR recruiting, which is interesting because from all reports Tyler Grisham is significantly better than Scott from a coaching perspective.

    Doing it and selling it are often very different animals, for sure and Scott was outstanding on the trail for Clemson. I like Decari Collins a lot, honestly. I think when you look at Collins, Collins, and Randall that they had a defined physical type that they wanted/needed to fill on the roster. Those guys look like they are pressed out of the same mold, while Williams and Thompson bring a completely different build/style and speed. 

     

    26 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

    Not sure any of those three or anyone from 21 or even 20 is a Higgins or Ross, but it will at least be a step back in the right direction. 

    TSRH. 

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  10. 11 hours ago, tokamak said:

    Well thanks a lot for making me feel old today.

    Regarding the draft, Sark can credibly claim that he basically turned a 3-star schlub into the #15 overall pick this year. Matter of fact, our HC/OC/OL coach combo had 5 first round picks this year, plus a high second. It's been beaten to death in this thread how unfortunately "coaching staff X puts players in the league" doesn't resonate as much as "Program Y puts players in the league". But isn't it the job of good recruiters to hammer the shit out of that misconception?

    Part of the issue is that it's not just a position coach that develops the player. 

    The S&C coach (as well as the training staff and the dietician,(s)) is a huge component to long term development and Sark hired a third tier S&C guy. There's not a modern and multi-faceted approach to full body flexibility and explosive power nor any cutting edge analytics that tailor not only the S&C workouts but more importantly full body recovery that is specific to each player and position group, as well as optimum recovery from nagging minor injuries. The gap between where other schools (specifically Bama, Clemson, tOSU, Oregon) are with S&C and Texas is with Torre Becton is a vast chasm. It's a FAR bigger gap than the gap Sark vs. other QB developers on those staffs would have as an advantage. Similarly, Sarkisian hasn't added former HC/OC/DCs to any of the support roles to speak of, much less an army of them. At Texas there aren't former HC/OC/DCs grading each days position group film, looking for things to work on in the next practice/tells that give away assignments, or grading the effort and drills of those position coaches and their army of assistants coaching along (regardless of the rules). Nor are you going against an entire defense of NFL talent for every rep. For 5 years. Even when it's 3s vs 3s. 

    If you ask all of the players, the trainers, the high school and 7v7 coaches if they think the recruit will be developed at Alabama, independent of who their position coach is or will be, they will unequivocally say "yes", because that has proven to be true. No matter the position coach. No matter the position. The system is in place. If you ask even just QBs if they will be developed at Texas under Sarkisian you won't have unanimity and you'll have more than a few tell you that they aren't sure he'll even be the HC by the time this 2022 class finishes. You'll get the same Alabama-type responses at Clemson and tOSU. Beyond those schools it drops to a more position-by-position basis for other schools (like OU, UGa, etc)  and you see the clearly defined gap between the top 3 and everyone else. 

    The reality is that Sarkisian is a mediocre head coach taking over a program mired in mediocrity. He's done nothing but make mediocre choices for his recruiting and support staff. All while ALL the other schools have preached since Sark's hire that this is Texas doing "more of the same" -- being mediocre. You can't counter the "more of the same" messaging from EVERY OTHER SCHOOL with "We did X at Bama and developed Player Y" because all of these recruits/trainers/parents/coaches have seen an army of coaches go from Bama say excatly that and do exactly fuckall at their new jobs. So you have do it by showing them that you have changed not only what you've done in the past that was decidedly mediocre (nope) but how the entire org works from the top down to be on par with those top 3 schools. (nope). 

    It's not as easy as saying I coached Mac Jones or Alex Leatherwood - because ___________ (insert 30 coaches who have come and gone) coached ______________ (insert 70 names from Alabama since 2011 when Saban's recruiting classes started hitting the draft like a fucking hammer). Sarkisian and his staff will have to prove that development travels with them because the messaging has been countered by every single school in the country using the "more of the same" messaging against Texas. 

    Sarksian is going all-in on scheme and preparation. If he succeeds he will be able to quickly sell this staff's ability to scheme, develop, and identify talent and it will resonate. He will be able to flip some guys and really hammer the 2023 class.  If he loses 3 or more games that all-in approach will net him a pink slip before he ever really gets going because the 2022 and 2023 classes will be marginal and we will be doing this dance again in 3-4 years.

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  11. Oregon adding a corner DC to support staff. 
     

    Jimmy Brumbaugh, who most recently served as the co-defensive coordinator and defensive line coach at Tennessee before being let go a few weeks into the 2020 season, is joining the Oregon staff, according to a report this afternoon.

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