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35 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Yeah my bad, I didn't mean to paint every contractor with the same brush.  But also don't want to call out specific, politically connected ones either.  I learned that lesson the hard way in Chicago labor trucking.  

That sounds scary. Did they send Rocko to 'have a chat' with you?

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15 hours ago, wood said:

So, there's a thread about this in the Austin reddit, where COTA threads typically fizzle and die. This one is booming, and there's a guy in there who helped build that drainage system  and more. He just confirmed (again) what I've already been told by a few people - that the ACO drain maintenance was indeed cancelled by COTA (Bobby), against the advice of the engineers and even COTA employees at the time (one of whom I know personally), and that led to these problems. 

Yeah, I believe it. Our local municipality did like zero storm drain maintenance for like ever, then a bunch of the systems failed and it became a big to do. Now storm water here  is basically hysteria and we are all paying the price.

My point though is if the slabs are on piers or pilings, those should be way deeper than any water issues. I suppose the hydraulic force could be floating the slabs off the piles though. Shitty situation all around.

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1 hour ago, G650 said:

Yeah, I believe it. Our local municipality did like zero storm drain maintenance for like ever, then a bunch of the systems failed and it became a big to do. Now storm water here  is basically hysteria and we are all paying the price.

My point though is if the slabs are on piers or pilings, those should be way deeper than any water issues. I suppose the hydraulic force could be floating the slabs off the piles though. Shitty situation all around.

Yeah I remember there was a big article about all the piers they installed. I think it mentioned how deep they went. I'll see if I can find it again. They may have even been floating piers, which seems like a bad idea out there.

I just found this basic article, but I think there's another one out there with more detail. Here they say they don't know if they went to bedrock or used spread footings. I know the guy that wrote this. He's a dipshit.

https://www.theaustingrandprix.com/news/2011/12/22/december-construction-analysis-of-circuit-of-the-americas.html

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3 hours ago, G650 said:

Dude used a lot of words to not say anything lol.

Yeah remember back when we were still getting approvals from the City Council and Will Buxton started interviewing people at bars and restaurants in Montreal about the Austin race? That was my idea. I texted him and his crazy-eyes sister about it beforehand. They didn't reply, so I figured they missed the texts or just didn't wanna do it or whatever. Next thing I see is them on TV with Buxton extolling the virtues of F1 etc. They played it up on the website they were running at the time as if it was all their idea. Never even said thanks.

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So ...

COTA chairman: If there are parts to the F1 track that need to be fixed, we'll do it   ...   https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/motorsports/2023/10/25/cota-track-austin-f1-max-verstappen-circuit-of-the-americas-bobby-epstein/71318358007/

First off, I love how he says "IF"  the track needs fixing, as if there's some doubt. He's said he'd fix it many times before. You've all seen the results of those 'fixes'. 

Then there's this: The author says there that ...

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Circuit of the Americas draws $19 million from the state big events fund to help stage the USGP. Gov. Greg Abbott recently cut COTA's take from roughly $25 million.

Eh, no. Not true. COTA received about $38 Million from the State of Texas for the 2022 USGP. They've asked for about $38 Million more for this year's race. I've looked all the way back to 2012, and the least COTA has received from the State is about $23 Million in 2015 ($19.6M state share). So they did receive under $20M one time, eight years ago, but that's not what they receive every year.

It's only gone up since then, dramatically. COTA has received more than $350 Million so far since 2012. About $300 Million for F1 races, and about $50 Million for MotoGP. And they've received more for smaller races over the years as well. The last 3 annual subsidy payments to COTA for F1 alone have averaged about $33 Million.

There's also been no recent cut by the Governor. He cut it for 2015, and since then it has skyrocketed.

Do reporters ever do their homework any more? Well, no. Not many at least. And this is how Epstein continues to spread his misinformation. He drops nuggets like this, but doesn't allow them to quote him saying it.  He does it over and over and over, because the typical 'journalist' these days is lazy as fuck, probably not all that sharp to begin with, and loves the intoxicating access.

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19 minutes ago, utee94 said:

In the olden days you could report errors like that to the editor.  

It's the Statesman so it wouldn't matter or change anything, but you could at least contact them.

Nowadays, eh..

Yep. They still don't care either way. My buddy shamed Lyttle yesterday on the twitter. Didn't we used to call him Kirk Bohls Jr, or something like that?

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