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  1. Sark put that on film earlier just to use that now. 4D chess
  2. Did you watch the game last night? Did you see Penix throwing off his back foot all game, missing open wide receivers, and generally struggling when any kind of pressure was on him? What about Bo Nix? Looked a lot like Auburn Bo Nix when facing a little defense. Remember that Quinn threw for 369 on UW. Anyway, Worthy is probably the best receiver in the country with the ball in his hands. That said, he has trouble getting the ball in his hands if there is any contact, or on balls past 20 yards. This has been the case for all his time on the 40, long before Quinn got here. He doesn't track the ball well and he struggles catching with his hands. He likes to basket catch everything. AD is a good receiver, but he isn't shifty or a burner. He catches whats thrown to him but doesn't turn up field and make a play afterwards. That's not partial or agenda driven. That's just the plain truth with no burnt orange tinted shades. TV and draft personality opinions are wrong all the time. That's How Jamarcus Russell goes first and Tom Brady barely gets drafted. Bo Nix has looked like a world beater the second he stepped out of the SEC. Maybe he is that good or maybe they just play a trash schedule. What I do know is that Oergon has stepped out of their conference vs a decent team twice in the last two years vs UNC and Georgia. Bo threw for 205 2tds and 1int vs UNC, and 21-37 177 and 2 ints vs Georgia. Penix got outplayed head to head vs Quinn last year in a bowl game, throwing it 54 times for only 287 yards to Quinn's 369 on 47 tosses. Outside of that they haven't stepped outside the Pac12 vs anyone good. Bottom line, all QBs struggle. This who is the best won't get answered til they all get to the league.
  3. Sec not getting left out. Not after how they've dominated.
  4. No. Had to be Iowa or The Ville. Sec champ gettin in.
  5. Remember this when you guys start bitching about Ewers.
  6. When I said other teams have great receivers too this is what I meant.
  7. Seriously. I would be lying if I said the thought didn't cross my mind to message ole Helobious.
  8. No one is saying that our receivers aren't good. They just aren't as good as you think they are. For example, Troy Franklin at Oregon was the number 2 WR prospect out of Cali AHEAD of Worthy, and sure as shit there he is balling out. These teams with good QBs have talent just like we do. Sometimes more. Also, almost all these QBs have had a mediocre game or 2. Penix just had two very average games the last two weeks. Daniels had a couple bad games this year. The only QB who hasn't had bad games is Nix, and we all saw him at Auburn.
  9. I parsed out YAC because who has that stat to say we are better than any of the other good CFB teams out there? Here is what I do know. Nabors has more yards and as many TDs as Worthy and Mitchell combined on 26 LESS receptions by his damn self! Add in Thomas and Lacy and you get another 1500 yards. I mean Harrison Jr has the same amount of catches as Worthy but 400 more yards and 9 more TDs when EVERYONE and I do mean EVERYONE knows the ball is coming to him. Add in the fact that Ohio State has Egbuka who had 1200 yards receiving and 10 TDs last year but has been knicked up and missed games this year. Still 35-452 and 4 TDs isn't bad. He is averaging roughly the same per catch as Worthy. I would take Ga, and Bama's receivers too. Both of our receivers have flaws. AD has great hands but you can't tell me the last time he got significant YAC. Worthy is awesome after the catch, but drops a lot of balls, loses every 50/50, and you can't tell me the last time he caught a ball through contact. Sanders is a very good TE, and Whittington's talent is his try hard. I think the real issue is that it's been so long since we had truly elite talent at WR that we forgot what it looks like. There are great receivers out there besides ours my man.
  10. Any decent receiver gets open, and I said none of our receivers do anything overly exceptional PRIOR to the ball hitting them in the hands. Running after the catch is after it hits their hands. We have good receivers but we aren't Bama, Georgia, or Ohio State.
  11. There is nothing overly exceptional any of our receivers do prior to the ball hitting them in the hands. Nothing. Worthy runs solid routes but gives that back with suspect hands and literally never winning a 50/50. Any contact is a drop.
  12. MM performed well because he saw 1v1 coverage to start his games and then once the defense dropped their safeties back he folded like a lawn chair. Both times. Quinn sees that defense that MM folded under every week and still delivers.
  13. It is really a good thing you aren't an NFL GM. You would've said the same thing about Mahomes and passed on him in the draft. These dudes are baseball players man. Their feet, arm angles, and platforms are all over the place. It's how they play. For every throw you sit and judge QE throws something other guys just can't or don't do. You pass it up though because you have been hating on him since he got here and just refuse to take a loss. However. Let's take a look shall we? Defenders are taught to read body positioning to determine where the ball is going. So sometimes your body positioning and arm angles can fool defenders and give your guy an advantage or you a throwing window that might not have been there. 1) 8:02 Baxter goes in motion. Quinn turns toward Baxter but throws across his body to Whitt. The free DB takes a couple steps towards Baxter then has to turn and find Whitt allowing him to get 8 yards before contact. It completely froze the defender. 2)8:55 Ewers feet are pointed right where the blitzing defender jumps but he drops his arm angle and throws around him to Worthy. If Worthy didn't run a lazy, rounded-off route its an easy catch. Ewers created that throwing window. You likely didn't notice. 3)26:30 Quick little flick AROUND the head of the blitzer to Whitt that goes for 14 yards. Watch the replay. Body position is pointed right. Defense drifts that way despite all the O-line flowing left. At the last second he sidearms the ball around the head of the free blitzer and the defense is caught on its heels. If you square your body around here the defense will respond to it. 4)35:22 Defender comes free and jumps to block where he thinks the pass is going based on where Quinn's body is pointing. QE sidearms a ball around him to Sanders and picks up 5 yards. These are just a few examples of the little nuances that QE brings to the table that most people gloss over and other QBs don't do. Despite what you think they matter. He has throws like that every game. He throws a nice soft catchable ball. Instead of rocketing balls in there that get dropped. He is accurate. No place on the field is safe from him. Does he miss throws? All the time, but so does every other QB out there.
  14. Point is teams don't default to that defense just simply because we have receivers and an aggressive OC. They ask us to prove we can complete them and when we prove we can then they will back off. Quinn has gotten that respect week after week without having to prove it, because teams know if you single up vs him he WILL hit the receivers and you will have a long night. When teams who do not play the 3-3-5 change their entire scheme for an opponent that is a sign of ultimate respect.
  15. They didn't come out in that when Murph was QB. That's why he had so many 1v1 matchups in his starts. So two different QBs saw two different approaches even though they have the same OC and receivers.
  16. And this is where we have a serious disconnect. You are spouting opinion instead of watching film. Just about everyone on this thread can tell you that team after team tried their best to duplicate their version of the 3-3-5. I know you heard Sark say teams showed looks they never showed on film. That is why. You would know that with a simple rewatch.
  17. What blows me away is that people here see every single running back we have running for 6-7 yards per carry and don't even think to look into why. Could it be that it's because they aren't the opposition's priority? No. Has to be that our 5th string RB is just THAT GOOD. No kudos shall be awarded to Quinn.
  18. You won't answer and that's fine. I am putting this up anyway so other people with your weird opinion can read it too. Quinn does what the boss asks him to do and he does it pretty well. We don't ask QE to throw little 5 yard curls very often but when we do he hits them. What the boss draws up is long developing routes where Quinn has to stand in the pocket and wait. Then our fan base comes in here screaming that Quinn can't read a defense and isn't there yet when he takes a sack instead of throwing risky passes. Tech was conceding the run game to defend against Ewers and the passing game. Imagine a world where you are getting gashed for over 300 yards rushing and you keep lining up like this below. Tech lined up with a safety almost 20 yards off the ball to discourage the passing attack. Quinn isn't running some wide open spread offense like those other QBs you cited. He is running a pro-style offense. So you don't judge based on numbers you judge based on is he doing what the coach is asking him to do. The answer to that is yes, and he is doing that against teams that are determined to take away that part of the offense and live with the running game. You guys thinking our running game is so special are missing the fact that we are seeing honest boxes every week because people are scared of our passing attack. You man up on the outside like Bama did? You get 24-38 346 and 3 TDs. In fact, every team that's tried to get aggressive against the running game has gotten scorched by QE. Bama last year. 370 vs UW. 3 bills and 4 TDs vs OU last year. It's a shame that some of you have to be reminded of that but here we are.
  19. What if they got Jimbo and he won the conference and got into the playoff year one.
  20. We wanted to drag our nuts on everyone we wouldn't be playing anymore on the way out the door which means we needed to see Gundy. In a perfect world we run over Gundy and come into the SEC with the NC trophy just to stick it to aggy.
  21. This is why you need to just lurk here for the most part. What you are seeing is a defense determined to take away QE and the passing game. That's why we ran for over 300 yards today. But of course your eyes are only focused on Quinn amd what he is doing. You are seeing Tech protecting against the pass and allowing themselves to get gashed by all 90 rbs on our roster rather than let Quinn and them kill them through the air.
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