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TreatyOak

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  1. Thnx. It's a really good one, too.
  2. It's a little early for an organized response since everyone is in mourning and facts are slowly being uncovered, but I find her statement encouraging for the following reason: I have a connection to the Mystic community and they have voiced a fear that the cult would band together and pressure people not to sue for a myriad of reasons, including faith, politics, MAGA, etc. We had it happen here when a member of a nearby church camp drowned on the lake. So I find her willingness to voice criticism a good sign.
  3. From the excellent MSN article. Nice to see that some parents aren't a part of the Camp Mystic cult and are already speaking out in protest. And this one is a lawyer. 'Serena Aldrich, a lawyer from San Antonio whose two girls were rescued from Camp Mystic, said leaders “should have been taking every precaution,” given the risk. “My opinion is that they should have been paying attention to those warnings and evacuated the camp,” she said. “The flooding is not a new thing. I don’t know if it’s ever been to epic proportions like that, but ignoring the warnings doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.”'
  4. I've already quoted this wondrous quote, but it bears repeating: Kerr County Judge Robert Kelly said at a news conference on July 5 that “no one knew this kind of flood was coming.” “This is the most dangerous river valley in the United States, and we deal with floods on a regular basis,” he said. “When it rains, we get water. We had no reason to believe that this was going to be anything like what’s happened here. None whatsoever.” I know what he was trying to say, but it really does make him sound like an idiot.
  5. Good article. If, it is in fact, true, it doesn't bode well for Camp Mystic. If Eastland got the 1am evacuation text, (and didn't begin to evacuate for an hour) he probably got the 1pm text from the previous day. I'm no @South Austin, but it doesn't look like the business will do well in civil suits. Clement, whose daughter is a counselor, said she is reluctant to criticize the staff’s decisions, saying, “I don’t know what could have been done differently, other than the idea of evacuating earlier, and just assuming the worst.” Pretty much the basis of the lawsuits, along with the floodplain stuff.
  6. Seeing quite a number of GoFundMe's set up 'for the families of the Camp Mystic tragedy.' Uh huh. Some of them may be legit. Personally, I wouldn't send money to anyone via GoFraudme.
  7. Wife is who kept me away, hahaha.
  8. Thnx for posting. Maybe the craziest post I've ever seen. We are living in alternative universe. I'm ashamed for myself that I live in the same state as these people.
  9. Maybe I saw Arch Manning's father today at Chaparral stadium. Arch was there, too. After my last misadventures w/ the CMO of Red Bull and Arch, I wasn't allowed to take pics or even get out the car!
  10. Please don’t be @That Guy
  11. I created this to make fun of the governance of Kerrville. However, looking at it, I pray with all my heart that this all comes to pass.
  12. It's terrible what these poor people went through, but again, I would not have stayed on the river after getting the flash flood warning. Not after the Wimberley flood in 2015. The Wimberley people were sleeping high up above the river in cabins and were washed away. I took a tour of the Hornsby Bend part of the Colorado River around 2012. They showed us how high a flood rose on the river and I literally could not believe my eyes. It was around 25 feet.
  13. Please don’t be @That Guy Or @Thatguy
  14. Call me a dick all you want. What more facts do you need? A whole bunch of kids he was personally responsible for on his watch are dead. Camp Mo got the flood warning on Thursday and evacuated their areas at risk. When the flooding came, they weren't there anymore and they all lived. This jackass: Got the flood warning and ignored it. If that happened, that's on him. Or didn't receive it because of cellphone issues, poor communication structure, etc. If that happened, that's on him. Apparently didn't have anyone monitoring the situation, since all the survivors say they woke up in cabins that were filling up with water. That's on him. Regardless of what happened, he was 100% culpable when you are responsible for the lives of hundreds of children and teens and a whole bunch of them die under your watch, oh yeah, on your property, which is improperly built on a flood plane.
  15. I have to give him credit in one respect. He sure knew when to exit the stage. Dying is a highly effective way to rehabilitate your image.
  16. Well said, but please don't be @That Guy or @Thatguy Brilliant.
  17. A lack of sirens wasn’t the problem. A lack of urgency and simple precautionary methods was.
  18. What's the over/under on this conversation taking place last Thursday night? "I've been running this goddamn camp for 52 years and no one knows this goddamn excuse ofr a river better than me. There ain't going to be no goddamn flood. I'm gonna finish this goodamn bottle and hit the bunk."
  19. I'm hearing from trusted sources that things weren't quite as reverent and Godly with the owners of Camp Mystic as their reputation would have us believe. Apparently, there was a major falling out that has split the family into two factions. For the last ten years, they have been spending a fortune in lawsuits against each other. This has quite possibly put a major strain on their finances and may be partly responsible for the shortcomings they experienced when time was critical last week.
  20. 100% this. Makes Camp Mystic's leadership even more culpable.
  21. Dalton Rice, the Kerrville city manager, said he had gone jogging around 3:30 or 4 a.m., but where he was, on the city’s walking trail along the Guadalupe, “there was very light rain” and “we did not see any signs of the river rising.” Apparently, it's still 1885 in Kerrville, where a city official can only react to something he can see with his own two eyes. “This came at night when people were asleep, in bed,” Kerrville’s mayor, Joe Herring Jr., said at a news conference. He later told CNN that he had not received the weather alert and was not awakened until 5:30 a.m. Your local tax dollars at work. The county does have access to a private system known as CodeRED that sends out alerts to residents’ phones, but it is not clear to what extent it was used. At 4:22 a.m., a firefighter asked on an emergency channel if there was “any way we can send a CodeRED out” to residents in the town of Hunt, where Camp Mystic and the Presbyterian camp are located, “asking them to find higher ground or stay home,” according to a report by Texas Public Radio. But it appears that the first CodeRED did not go out for about an hour. Louis Kocurek, a resident of the town of Center Point, told The Times that the CodeRED text message he received had come in at 10:07 a.m. There is a theory that small towns suck because the young, smart people figure out what is going on and GTFO as soon as possible.
  22. @immamac I know this isn’t probably the best time right now and tensions are currently very high on this thread, but I would be remiss if I didn’t mention that the Fyre Brand including the email lists, merchandise, hotel partnerships, social media sites and w everything else are currently on eBay for auction. @South Austin said he would gladly handle the legal work. Or at least that’s something he might have said.
  23. A few of the camps were shut down BEFORE the storm. One called their session early and sent the campers all the way home. Their people were on the ball. The people who ran Camp Mystic - not so much. Mystic was the only camp to lose campers. They died because the wrong people were in charge. As someone wrote, at a minimum, they could have moved the little kids to the big girls cabins on the hill.
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