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Hank Kingsley

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  1. 1 minute ago, Js1 said:

    Similar ideological lane. Female and experienced. If she gained more traction, maybe. But she hasn’t. 

    All true. Overall Pete's just a much better campaigner and organizer than Klobuchar. 

     

  2. Pete's strategy has been Iowa the entire time, and he's always polled well there. 

    Too many people focus on national polls where he is at 4-6% and think he's not getting anywhere. 

     

  3. 2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    We're talking about Pete because of his sustained attack on M4A and its funding.

    If his position was just, "Their plan is fine, but mine is better" no one would care and we wouldn't be talking about him.

    It's a primary. 

    He wants to clarify his stance is better by people having a choice.  As I'm sure you're very well aware of, "M4A" has been turned into a catch-all phrase with ambiguous meaning outside of Bernie. Pete is trying to clear up any possible confusion with voters and point out the major differences in plans. 

    Re: funding, are you talking about him confronting Warren about middle class taxes? She's been vague. He's not going after Bernie regarding taxes, because he's actually told the truth and has been clear about it. 

  4. I'm not posting this as any sort of "gotcha". I'm pretty sure the person that tweeted the video is really anti-Bernie and I don't condone whatever she does. I'm only interested in the actual video. I'm sure there is some context/nuance missing here but the larger point remains.

    Bernie is the man and M4A is his baby. But he was talking positively about a public option in 2009.  I don't think Pete deserves the hatred for proposing a public option now. 

     

  5. 5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    Yeah, I think one of the Kennedys wrote there’s young too.  Pete has a shot at Iowa but I don’t know how he’s going to convince black folks to support him. 

    No doubt that's his biggest obstacle. He's got to start gaining support from POC. 

  6. 5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    I want to like Pete, I really do.  He would make a better president than any republican and most of the democrats, I would be happy to vote for him. 

    However, he comes off as an entitled techbro douchebag.  Who the fuck writes their own autobiography at age 37?  Pete Buttigieg, that’s who. 

    Coming from a guy that repeatedly defended Jeff Flake and Paul Ryan at some point, I'll take this as a good sign for Buttigieg. 

     

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  7. 2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    Before I do that, can you tell me whether or not you have bothered to actually read Pete's positions? Do you know the answers to those questions and are just being coy or do you not actually know?

    My guess is that you haven't actually read this stuff and don't actually care beyond him being so powerfully personally appealing to you as an individual. I might be wrong.

    But who am I kidding, of course I'm going to go read every word because I can't help myself...

    I have stated before that healthcare is a super complicated subject and I don't have enough knowledge to argue the details/inner workings, let alone be able to predict what can and can't get done. 

    I know this is your #1 issue. It's not for me. I respect yours and Bernie's passion regarding M4A. Morally, I think it's the right way to go. I also believe that the right way to get there is by giving people a choice and letting the market decide. There will be a ton of obstacles, I know. 

    Broadly, IMO it's a very slippery slope for our government to force everyone into M4A. 

  8. 3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    We know he attended a dinner "with the larger imperative of party unity". Maybe someone got on stage and talked shit about Bernie, maybe not. There is absolutely zero proof that Pete was doing anything nefarious. And considering he ran for DNC chair in 2017,  it's completely understandable why he'd be invited. 

    It's such a reach and so conspiratorial that it's just another pathetic Bernie supporter talking point.  Do better. 

     

     

  9. 3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    I don't think Beto and Castro were going to "STOP BERNIE AT ALL COSTS!" dinners with the elites.

    Amazing that you actually buy into this nonsense. 

     

     

  10. A South Bend mayor raised more just in small donations than Beto & Castro's total Q3 numbers combined. Crazy. 

    Yang had an impressive percentage of small-donor money.

    Also interesting that Booker needed to raise 1.7 million in 10 days and was desperately asking everyone for money, and he only ended up with 2.3 million in small-dollar donations. I guess he got a lot of bigger checks in those 10 days.

     

  11. 23 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

    A really big mistake made by too many candidates/campaigns is getting caught up in the Twitter-sphere.  This particular corner of social media is not the general Democrat electorate.

    Letting Twitter, even subconsciously, dictate any of your primary strategy is amateur hour.  Getting in a sick burn, subtweeting other campaigns, or desperately seeking a viral moment doesn't really help.

    To wit: 

     

  12. 25 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

    It's amazing how much of a ghost town this thread is when substantive discussion is offered and how eager its denizens are to go around concern trolling elsewhere.

    Garbage candidate. Pathetic grifter with zero hope for an actual future in his own state openly being bought by the wealthy elites so he can try to meet his personal ambitions.

    So Pete was just a dumb, naive child in February of 2019 and now that he's grown up to be a big boy he realizes that taxation to pay for social welfare is bad and it is a huge coincidence that he has been openly purchased by the wealthiest people?

    Is that what the Peteheads are going with on this?

    He was already proposing Medicare for All Who Want It prior to that Morning Joe clip. He always said he believes in universal healthcare, he just doesn't agree with Bernie that we should do it his way.

    Warren surrogates are freaking out and taking aim at Pete because he called her out on M4A. I have no problem with that, it's politics. But they're trying to distract from her upcoming pivot. She was quoted being for Bernie's M4A at a primary debate and is about to walk it back.  

    Oh wow, he has high end donors? Did you just figure this out? 

    Looking at Q3 numbers, Bernie and Warren had about 60% of their money from small-money donors. Pete's at 45%.  He has the 3rd most unique donors behind those two as well. 

     

  13. 8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    That’s what this is ultimately about. Where do you plan to move the country as president?  You don’t become god when you’re elected president and get to automatically implement everything you want.  

    You are merely given the power and platform to move the U.S.  government and society in a direction towards your vision.  

    I totally agree. 

     

  14. 3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    What a weird take.   You just said that Pete is one of the candidates who coopted the M4A label only to come out with a less-fullsome variant, and that your worry is that Warren will do the same thing.  But he's your #1 candidate.  OK.

    Well, Pete was proposing "Medicare For All Who Want It" in February,  two weeks after he announced his exploratory committee and two months before he officially announced his candidacy.  So as a presidential candidate he's been consistent. He's believed for years that universal healthcare should be the ultimate goal, but offers a different way to get there and not on a specific timeline. 

  15. 2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

    The thing about Warren’s plans is they’re not so much actual bills she’s promising but more about articulating her vision and values for America through her policy ideas.  

    She has articulated where she wants America to be on healthcare and that’s with a single payer system.  The criticism for a lack of details on this issue at this moment in time is really just concern trolling.  As if there aren’t plenty of workable ways to get to a single payer healthcare system. 

    LMAO.

    "She has a vision for that!"

     

  16. 3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

    It sounds to me like Bernie is the right candidate for you.   Warren isn't Bernie.  I'm certain that he will never settle for anything less than what he's proposed and that he would take nothing over a compromise.  I think she'd fight for M4A but ultimately compromise to get something passed.  That's why I prefer her, but I can understand why others might not.   And she could copy and paste Bernie's bill to her website, but it wouldn't change any of that. 

    You're missing my point. Pete is my #1 right now and Warren is #2.  I'm not a person that demands Bernie's M4A plan.

    I just want her to be forthright. That's it. 

     

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