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Not for the Indigenous peoples in "Texas." The genocide/ethnic cleansing was already underway by the rifle-toting Euro-Christian colonizers/conquerers as they stole the lands that became Texas. To make way for all those supposedly "peaceful" Christians we keep hearing about, at least according to the preachers, propagandists, and true believers.
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What's really sad is the little belief system of religion still exists, in the 21st century universe of NASA, Hubble, evolution, and a vast, awe-inspiring cosmology. What's really sad is the failure of secular education to convey on a wide-scale the scientific universe as a source of wonder, meaning, existential truth, our origins, and the ultimate ground for universal human rights. What's really sad is these fact-free fables and commandments are being shoved down the throats of many Americans. That's the real hostility at play—creating a violent 21st century fascist theocracy. What's really sad is Texas is ground zero for all this madness.
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In 20-25 years on the current timeline, Psycho Jr. will be an officer and triggerman in the CYPB firing squads and militias. Purifying the streets and neighborhoods of the American metropolis. (CYPB = Christian Youth Purity Brigades). They're coming. They're telegraphing it far and wide. Believe them. They don't care how many die to create their Holy America, as we see with the mass shootings. Ultraviolence!
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I've known this for 30+ years. It is pointless to engage in debates over Sky God v. Big Telescope or Spiritual Human v. Evolved Human. Utterly pointless. However well-intentioned (or not), various people, friends, and writers always do the following: Put words in my mouth, or draw invalid inferences from what I said, or conflate concepts, or willfully deny logic and evidence, or offer "but, what about this," or deploy doublethink, or see the Sky God in every tiny gap in a theory or a sentence I utter or write. Meanwhile, no one has ever proved Genesis 1:1. Never. No Sky God in sight, not even in a Hubble Deep Field image. That's in contrast to what's been proven by Big Telescopes. Indeed, Taylor is right in Planet of the Apes, "It's a madhouse" on Planet Earth. So I rarely ever debate all this with anyone, anywhere, not even with girlfriends (no pics) over the years (never had desire to get married and have kids). Yet, I still get drawn in sometimes, as on this thread. My bad. Apologies for any lack of clarity in my posts. Specking of madhouses, when the hell is UT football gonna win anything of significance? As in a National Title?
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I fail to see how turning away from the very evolutionary things that clearly separate humanity from the apes — namely, our science, reason, logic, aesthetics, to name a few things that we developed — is the path away from the apes. How is the belief in an unseen, never seen, never heard from God (who does not a damn thing to improve life on Planet Earth) any better than apes? It's not and history has shown that time and time again. You posted a pic of a chimp, apparently suggesting that grasping our evolution origins is counter to humanity. Lulz. This pic from the original Planet of the Apes (1968) captures the essential attitude and worldview of religion toward science, logic, evidence, or anything that refutes their beliefs. And, to offer the obligatory quote from the astronaut Taylor (played by Charlton Heston): "There has to be something better than man out there. Has to be." The failure of basic science education in this country is astonishing. It's no wonder MAGA-GQP are so powerful. We're in the middle of an epic intellectual/educational collapse and a huge swath of America is literally devolving right before our eyes. Taylor's also right about something else: "It's a madhouse!
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With all due respect: just because you are not informed on the subject does not mean it is "gibberish." Apparently, you know nothing of the revolutionary work of the great Jane Goodall — perhaps the most important primatologist of the 20th century. Here's a quote from Wikipedia: "Then suddenly we found that chimpanzees could be brutal—that they, like us, had a darker side to their nature. .... Her findings revolutionised contemporary knowledge of chimpanzee behaviour and were further evidence of the social similarities between humans and chimpanzees, albeit in a much darker manner." For a more detailed explanation of Goodall's findings, here is a screen capture from Wikipedia. . Note the clear examples of tribalism, violence, dominance, ganging up (feeling superior?) on a solitary monkey and killing it, etc.
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Sorry, but you are conflating, while denying it. Conflating an evidence-and-logic-based critique of religion with the desire/willingness to suppress religion via the state. That's a non sequitur. Just because I embrace a scientific outlook and call out the fascist theocracy emerging right before our eyes, it does not follow that I advocate the state suppress religion or Christianity. I have never said or written that anywhere, here or elsewhere. Never. All I ask is the First Amendment be upheld, which mandates a separation of church and state. It's very simple. MAGA-GQP are ignoring that part of the First Amendment, while shoving their Ten Commandments down the throat of secular America — in the name of religious freedom and unscientific medieval idiocy (Re: overturning Roe). Your accusation is one that has long been popular in conservative and religious circles. It's the old Commie straw-man assertion — godless liberals and commies gonna take my Bible and AR-15. Lulz. You have not refuted anything I said, just hurled insults (the Keaton meme) and hackneyed accusations. This is my final reply to you. Adios.
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Sawbonz, you are probably a nice guy and someone to have a drink with and talk about these topics. I know I have done that zillions of times. But with all due respect, this "both sides" claim is misguided. Sorry, but time's up for the apologia, the denialism, the enabling, the equalizing, etc. Time's up for #bothsides On Negating the Difference Between Religion and Atheism Religion depends on this. That's the attempt to negate the empirical differences between the evidence-free Sky God myth (that's faith) and the galaxies of evidence for Darwin, Hubble, and the sciences of evolutionary biology, genetics, astrophysics, cosmology, etc. Powered by incredible technologies (telescopes, microscopes, etc), all empirical evidence points unequivocally toward humans being one of millions of life forms that emerged and evolved on a tiny planet, orbiting a flaming ball of hydrogen, all in a vast, majestic, awe-inspiring, and expanding universe of two trillion galaxies stretching across 100 billion light years. Every human (and life form) on this planet is made of elements born in exploding stars, an empirical fact discovered in 1957. And every human shares 99..5% of the same DNA. Those are empirical facts. That can only mean we are one species sharing one planet. So far, the human species — in its curiosity and creativity — is the only species on our planet to figure this out about the surrounding universe and life on Earth. And most of the humans on Planet Earth remain in denial, unwittingly clinging to their primate origins which they deny exist! The virulent hatreds and claims to supremacy seen in religion (and society at large) are from our primate origins!. Faith is the total belief in God despite the absence of evidence. Atheism is the total absence of belief in any God. But that does not mean I believe in nothing. Science (along with art, philosophy) provides the foundation for a secular worldview grounded in evidence and our true origins in the universe. As for our destiny, that remains to be seen..... If all humans would accept our evolutionary origins as a single species on a tiny planet, then maybe — just maybe — we could slowly start to get along, live peacefully, share the benefits of our creativity and compassion, and protect the ecosystems of Planet Earth, upon which all life depends. But that ain't happening anytime soon. One key reason is because religion is the fount of Alt-Fact Culture. About State-Imposed Atheism Speaking for myself, I am not advocating state-imposed atheism. You are correct Sawbonz: that will never work, as history has shown. Neither will state-imposed religion, which also happens to ignore the first line of the First Amendment, at least in America. But that fact is denied by MAGA-GQP and all the others in favor state-imposed religion. And state-imposed violent religion is coming to America, far and wide. #TenCommandments. TLDR: Don't conflate a secular worldview (informed by art, science, and secular philosophy) with the fact-free idiocy spewing from MAGA-GQP.
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Looks like the holy New York Times is busy pimping celebrity fascism and theocracy, again. Under the guise of "objective" and "responsible" journalism (#bothsides) for consumption by the liberal elite. Any of y'all think the so-called "liberal" media is gonna save us from fascism and theocracy, y'all better think again. The Times is exactly what Orwell warned us about. Doublethink for the Party Elite.
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That's the million dollar question. How? One thing for certain. It ain't coming from the media, corporations, academia, or the Democrats. Biden? AOC? Too much Catholicism. Too much Christianity. Too much of America is utterly brainwashed into believing religion is a force for good, conveniently cherry-picking from the Bible, while ignoring the horror stories in the Bible and the atrocities committed by religions all over the world. Just read some of the comments above. It's all a bunch of narcissistic delusion in the belief that their personal destiny is ordained by the Creator of a universe with two trillion galaxies stretching across 100 billion light years. Lulz. But how can religion's political takeover be stopped or at least halted? I guess, somehow, the 30-35% of Americans who are non-religious need to organize on local, national, and international scales. And they need to have a platform and manifesto, just for starters. If it is not too late. But maybe the non-religious are too apathetic because consumer society offers endless distractions....
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MAGA-GQP is full-on coming for every group they hate: coming for the women, coming for POC, for LGBTQIA+, for doctors and nurses, for K-12 educators, librarians.... And now they're coming for the professors. And they will come for the scientists, artists, and atheists and non-believers. These idiots would love to bring UT to its knees, bowing before the MAGA Bible thumpers. If you think that is not part of the plan, you ain't paying attention. Hell, they've a got an evangelical running the Civitas Institute with a $6 million budget. Last time I looked, almost everyone on he board has some kind of Christian background. Secular Texas and Secular America are in big fucking trouble. MAGA-GQP are bent upon shoving the Ten Commandments right down everyone's throats. And the media and Democrats are hardly doing a thing to stop them.
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"God" says it's legal. The Bible trumps the Bill of Rights. That's it. That's the entire argument. All the rest is gaslighting and propaganda. From "United We Stand" to the "Tea Party" to MAGA, the GQP goal has always been a fascist theocracy. ALWAYS! They are building it right before our eyes. The Ten Commandments are being shoved down the throats of secular America.
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Nah. More like zero nuance. By any dictionary definition, MAGA-GQP is a fascist theocratic party seeking to rule through violence, intimidation, and Biblical law. They are led by a malevolent, ignorant, orange-faced fascist buffoon, a con man cult leader who tried to overturn an election. MAGA-GQP are openly and brazenly attacking women, Blacks, immigrants, LGTQIA+, BLM protestors, doctors, nurses, educators, librarians, election workers, scientists, vaccines, medicines, and so on. More than 95K are dead from Covid in Texas. There are mass shootings galore. MAGA-GQP is enabling mass death. Given all of the above, Abbott got re-elected easily. There is no f*cking nuance!
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This is true ... plus the non-religious voters. Among GenZ, the non-religious are almost 50% (see circles). That is reason for some hope! Most of GenZ non-religious might already vote D, but it is nowhere enough in Texas. Sadly, "non-religious" could also mean they believe Ancient Aliens are our saviors and all kinds of idiot pseudoscience. The non-religious Texans (and Americans) need to organize politically, around the banner of philosophically fighting fascism and theocracy on all fronts. Plus, fighting for universal human rights grounded in science and human existence, affordable secular education via state schools, and sustainable policies/renewables to counter the climate catastrophe, etc. Front and center needs to be directly challenging religious claims to facts, history, moral supremacy, and ruling America. Citizens and voters need to know about the wall between church and state as stated at the very top of the First Amendment—even before religious freedom! Almost no one knows this. — Of course, all of these will trigger massive MAGA-GQP freakouts and all kinds of faslehoods and propaganda. Plus, the fossil fuel industry will jump in on any challenge to oil/gas by renewables ("Texans will lose jobs!"). One thing is certain, the Beto charismatic nice guy (leaving religion/fascism/theocracy off the table) is a proven losing strategy. Proven twice.
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Lulz this thread. I appreciate the sentiment. I really do. Texas has a blatant fascist theocracy running the state government, some local governments, and seizing power across the state. They are targeting women, POC, LGTQIA+, doctors, librarians, educators, university tenure system, while also attacking facts, knowledge, history, medicines, vaccines, science, and even reality, itself. When anyone believes the Creator of the universe — with two trillion galaxies stretching across 100 billion light years, etc. — has their back and promises eternal destiny for their "good" deeds on Earth, and no one challenges that fact-free claim, there there is no limit to the power they will seek and what they will do with that power. No limit. And this is gonna solved with a list of policy suggestions? Wow? The only "possible" solution is two part. —The 35% of America that is not religious needs to organize on a massive scale, but I do not see that happening. — Launch a philosophical war in which the real nature of MAGA-GQP is identified, critiqued, and blasted in public arenas. That means attacking/critiquing religion/evangelicalism, while defending science, defending overall evidence-based thinking in government and life, and defending universal human rights (as grounded in the science of evolution). That means saying clearly and loudly that local preacher doesn't know jack shit about women's medical rights and has no claims on anything else related to science or morality. And neither does that pompous Joel Osteen or any other megachurch prophet-entertainer. That means getting God is out of government, in accordance with the separation of church and state mandated by the First Amendment. And that wall of separation means God needs to be kicked out of the state universities, too. And none of this is gonna happen. Why. Because God and religion get a 100% free pass all across America. The media in Texas will not take on religion. Neither will any corporations or universities. When the fascist-theocrats seize total power, the university leaders and corporate CEOs may frown, but they will line up to do business and get tax funding and tax breaks. Proto-fascist Elon Musk has shown that. Now y'all can remain in denial, but religion and Christianity are the essential core foundation of MAGA-GQP fascism/theocracy. If that is left standing untouched, there is no way to win the battle. Sooner or later, they will come for the secularists, scientists, atheists, and various others. Just wait till they come for the telescopes and astronomy at the UT McDonald Observatory. It's coming. The seeds have been planted.... TLDR: Texas is being taken over by a fascist theocracy. It's too late for policy debates. Philosophical war is needed.
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I don't know how long Tennessee has been fucked up. But it is at least since the Texas Wishbone fucked up Tennessee 36-13 in the Cotton Bowl (January 1, 1969).
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Elon Musk is not a profound futurist, he's a proto fascist. If anything, Musk is a fascist of the near future—an idiot savant echoing the American intellectual collapse into a violent idiot world.
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Nah. Harlan Crow started out in the owner's box of the stadium he owns for the team he owns in the league he owns, thinking everything he owns is a grand slam.
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jimmyjazz: This is a friendly reply. Thanks for your post. I thought I recalled reading (many years ago) in a JFK assassination book that the Dallas Morning News printed the "Wanted for Treason" ad. I no longer have the book, so I decided to check my memory and look it up. It seems the variety of historical sources I checked are not in agreement on the flyers/ads. Some say the Dallas Morning News ran the "Wanted for Treason" (which apparently also was a flyer); see the attached Getty image. Other sources say the Dallas Morning News ran the "Welcome Mr. Kennedy" ad, which was also a flyer. Apparently, even the CIA noted that a newspaper ran an anti-Kennedy ad an they were investigating it in the wake of the assassination. So, like everything else to do with the JFK assassination, there are conflicting sources. Kinda like the internet! Note the reference to Anti-Christians in Point 6.
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Don't be fooled. The super-elite in Dallas have been resistant to social progress all along. In the shadow of those glistening skyscrapers, in the shadow of those neoclassical monstrosities that make up Highland/University Park, in the shadow of the Cowboys' famed football stadiums, there has long been the specter of sublimated fascism. For decades. The most notorious example: On November 22, 1963, the Dallas Morning News saw no problem with printing a political ad with the headline "Wanted for Treason," with mugshot-like photos of JFK. Theres's a reason Dallas was known as the "City of Hate." Took seven years to even build a Kennedy Memorial. Of course, after the JFK assassination, the city of Dallas loosened up a bit. But, for the Dallas Fascist/Christian elite, the longstanding enemies were commies, atheists, and anyone or anything too "liberal." Always in some conspiratorial plot to take their Bibles, money, guns, and white supremacy. Gotta trust the billionaires and preachers, they know best. Ain't nothing gonna interfere with God-fearing Texans making money (capitalism) and praising the Lord (religious freedom). Nothing.
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I have. Extensively while at UT. You are correct in one sense. The Nazis seized power suddenly and violently. However, the slippery slope in Germany started well before the Nazis came to power. —There were decades of the widespread embrace of Aryan Superiority/Master Race myths proselytized by philosopher Houston Stewart Chamberlain. He authored the highly influential book: The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century (1899). This is just one example, there were others whose names escape me thirty years later. Some of Nietzsche's were also appropriated or misappropriated, depending on one's view. Chamberlain and his disciples later influenced Alfred Rosenberg and other Nazi thinkers. The rabid Nazi racism and anti-Semitism had been building for decades, across the culture in Germany, from philosophy to Wagner to sports to cinema (Leni Riefenstahl). — Also prominent in the era before the Nazi takeover was the rise of anti-science, anti-evolution, anti-Darwin, "Blood and Soil," Social Darwinism, and all kinds of BS science (eugenics) and pseudoscience, along with Aryan pseudo-archaeology (later inspiring Raiders of the Lost Ark). Three-to-four decades of the slippery slope of myth, racism, and idiocy (etc.) paved the way for the sudden Nazi takeover. — When it came for the takeover, the Nazis got support from the industrialists, police, and various security forces who supported Hitler. Then the military obeyed. Slippery Slope America. — The idea of a chosen people in Germany (the Aryan myth) destined to rule is not unlike the current attitude of the Christian fascists/theocrats in America who believe they are ordained to rule by the Bible. Building for decades, since Reagan and Falwell merged religion and Republicans. They own the Supreme Court for decades and much of the Federal Courts. — Anti-science and pseudoscience are all over American culture (Left and Right)—creationism, dinos and humans co-existing, paranormalism, climate denial, astrology, faith-healing, anti-vaxxers, celebs selling miracle cures, all kinds of New Age nonsense, the cult of self-help, belief in conspiracy theories, from Q to Apollo fake moon landings to Ancient Aliens. The list is endless. The entire Ancient Aliens ideology is a a bunch of pseudo-archaeology/chosen people believed by tens of millions in America. — The Leftist intelligentsia turned away from science and atheism in the 1980s and 1990s, advocating relativism (all beliefs are equal) and the notion that science is based in capitalism and has no objective claims to empirical or universe truth. Re the Sokal hoax scandal. MAGA-GQP just one-upped them. I recall this debate clearly happening at UT among some students and faculty. — Add on social media disinformation, mass shootings, ultraviolence (as I have explained in several posts), the attacks on legal precedent by theocrat judges, attacks on women, people of color, LGBTQIA+ and the Trump regime's enabling of mass death via Covid—you can see the intellectual collapse of America is in full force. The sudden violent seizure of power in America? What else was January 6? Nothing less than a violent insurrection. Since none of the ringleaders has been prosecuted, expect it to happen again. People like to think the police and military will remain neutral. I would not count on it. They are no less immune the cultural forces and intellectual collapse then anyone else. — Add on the fact that religion/Christianity gets a free pass, no matter the fascism and obvious theocracy, and big trouble lies ahead. Both sides are now claiming the need to reject the rule of law. Corporations and billionaire oligarchs are waiting it out in the wings.... — In my view, the slippery slope is mostly behind us. The question before us is: — Does America survive the seizure of power coming from MAGA-GQP, with stolen elections via voter suppression, belief in biblical prophecies and conspiracy theories, all backed by millions of AR-15s and perhaps support from police or military. TLDR. The parallels between America and Germany are there. Very clear. Right before our eyes. American democracy is ... on the ledge!
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Sure. It's called the Bible, the sacred scrolls. The Bible overrules all science, all medical expertise, all legal precedent, all FDA rulings, all women's reproductive rights in America. It is as simple at that. Trying to analyze the 67-page ruling is self-gaslighting. The first footnote in the ruling cites an anti-abortion book, followed by 66 pages of smoke screen pretending to be rigorous legal analysis. The Trump-appointed judge is not a conservative, but rather a fascist theocrat. There, that's the legal mechanics. Seriously, that's it.
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In a sane secular legal world, you are 100% correct. But, we left that world a long time ago. We're in medieval madness. In the emerging American theocracy, the Bible has standing above all the sciences and medical expertise. Genesis 1:1 is the evidence-free foundation for all this insanity. Kacsmaryk is another Trump-appointed theocrat. The 67-page ruling is just an attempt to gaslight everyone into believing the ruling was grounded in rigorous science and legal scholarship. The first footnote in the opinion is to Embryo: A Defense of Human Life, the usual Christian anti-abortion nonsense masked as high-minded morality grounded in unscientific bullshit (clump of cells = "unborn human"), authored by two theocrats masking as high-browed legal profs from Princeton and Univ of South Carolina. Same with Alito citing medieval scholars overturning Roe. With the counter ruling in Washington, the abortion pill issue will get to the Supreme Court, where Barrett will author the 6-3 majority opinion. Medical science and women's reproductive rights must obey the sacred scrolls. That's the entire foundational argument. The rest is a smokescreen for theocracy. From the Bible to the Ivy League to Amarillo to the Supreme Court to all across America. Kacsmaryk issuing the ruling on so-called Good Friday is just the cherry on the top.
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The assault on women's rights and the worship of gun rights are deeply related. That's because in a theocracy, words and concepts not only lose their meaning, they become the complete opposite. With facts, evidence, and science under assault, the opposite meanings are operative precisely as the original meaning is still believed. Orwell called it doublethink. Example 1: First Amendment — The right to religious "freedom" protected in the First Amendment now means the right to violently impose and inflict religion upon others. Reproductive health rights are forcibly denied to women, thus religious "freedom" is weaponized to unleash medical violence upon women's bodies. Religious freedom imposes medical violence. Freedom is violence. Example 2. Second Amendment — The right to bear arms is protected, but that right is deployed as way to impose murder and mass shootings. Thus, the "right" to bear arms becomes a tool to unleash violence. To defend gun rights in the face of growing gun violence means only one thing. Gun rights supersede the right of others to live, to not die by gun violence. Rights are violence. Conclusion/Deduction The bodily autonomy of women and school children are giving way to religious "freedom" and gun "rights." Both freedoms/rights are weaponized against the bodies of women and children, precisely in the name of religious freedom and gun rights. With the regard to the First and Second Amendments, the Bill of Rights is becoming the Bill of Violence. That's what happens in a fascist theocracy. TLDR. Religious freedom and gun rights equal the right to impose violence. Orwell was right. Freedom is violence. Ultraviolence.
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