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5 hours ago, utee94 said:

We all know that Texas broke the SEC. Even a year before we joined, just the knowledge that Texas was coming, completely undid the entire conference.

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5 hours ago, utee94 said:

We all know that Texas broke the SEC

and everyone being able up pay athletes in the open

7 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Not even a championship game participant in 3 years for this conference is beyond embarrassing

To whom? It’s hilarious.

On 10/22/2024 at 4:24 PM, Tonesky said:

I've since gotten another similar comment (to my social media post) from another Gator.  I don't think either was rooting for GA to win.  But, both suffer from SEC, SEC, SEC....

I always shake my head a bit at the fans of programs who don’t get the SECSECSEC.

It is the simplest of constructs. The perception that the SEC is a better conference had demonstrable and tangible benefit to SEC programs over the last 20 years. This remained true even in years when the demonstrably superior SEC conference in the 2000s (at least in the top tier where I think we won seven (six?) national championships in a row ) became far less superior with the changes in NIL and portal.

Even a false and incorrect appreciation of SEC programs being better resulted in higher rankings and better bowl matchups. That was good for every conference program. As a Florida fan, I hate Georgia and want them to lose every game. Georgia aside, if the conference being seen as better than other conferences leads to an advantage for Florida, deserved or not, I will always be all in on that. Why? Because I support Florida and always want the best for Florida.

The idea that I would prefer Florida to have lower rankings and less advantageous bowl games simply because some people have a problem with how the SEC attempts to use that narrative to better their individual programs I find astonishing. The sole reason for supporting the ‘SEC is better’ narrative is so that Florida benefits, deserved or not. Because I always want Florida to benefit. I want Florida to benefit from any association with its conference. Just like I want Florida to benefit from bad officiating (Florida usually gets fucked by officiating, but if we got the Bama/Georgia bump, which is real, I would love to have that), I want Florida to benefit from recruits thinking SEC Florida is a better place than non-SEC conferences. I really don’t give a shit if it’s true or not. All I want is for Florida to always be in a better position versus every other SEC team, and to be in a better position than every other non-SEC team.

If the perception of the SEC being inferior benefited Florida, I would be all in on everyone thinking the SEC sucked. Benefiting Florida is the only metric I care about, and in the last two decades, it has benefited Florida that the SEC is viewed favorably. A lot of that has been ESPN stanning SEC bullshit. And intelligent fans realize a lot of that is bullshit. But as long as the bullshit benefits Florida, I am 100% behind the bullshit.

I get why Texas fans do not buy into any of this. That is rational. But during the timeframe that the SEC won 6 or 7 national championships in a row, the Big 12 did not produce two in a row. ESPN was not going on and on about how great the Big 12 was. When Florida squeaked in by the smallest of margins to play Ohio State in January 2007, the SECSECSEC thing had not yet vomited out of ESPN’s corporate mouth. Florida’s demolition of the buckeyes started the SEC is better narrative. Had the vote between Michigan and Florida in 2006 been held in 2010 it would not have been close. The SEC reputation at that point would’ve guaranteed a Florida matchup instead of backing in by 1000 of a point. The SEC reputation had become a demonstrable advantage for Florida at that point. and as a Florida fan, I want what is best for Florida. Period.

As we entered 2026, that SEC superiority thing is gone. Other than people calling into the Paul F’s Bama smooth brain show, everybody knows that it’s bullshit now. That is probably a good thing for college football. To the extent that it’s no longer good for Florida, well, that is too bad, because I only care about what is good for Florida.

I just wanted you to know why one SEC program member put up with the SEC conference loyalty concept - a concept that is foreign to Texas, and apparently rustles a lot of Jimmies.

Tl:DR if the ‘SEC is better’ thing is not deader than disco now, it should be pretty soon. If you are telling me that Texas is too proud to want to get any benefit from conference affiliation, then I respect that. This Florida Gator is far more mercenary, and will take any benefit to my program that I can get, whether deserved or not.

23 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

If you are telling me that Texas is too proud to want to get any benefit from conference affiliation, then I respect that.

I am

13 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I always shake my head a bit at the fans of programs who don’t get the SECSECSEC.

It is the simplest of constructs. The perception that the SEC is a better conference had demonstrable and tangible benefit to SEC programs over the last 20 years. This remained true even in years when the demonstrably superior SEC conference in the 2000s (at least in the top tier where I think we won seven (six?) national championships in a row ) became far less superior with the changes in NIL and portal.

Even a false and incorrect appreciation of SEC programs being better resulted in higher rankings and better bowl matchups. That was good for every conference program. As a Florida fan, I hate Georgia and want them to lose every game. Georgia aside, if the conference being seen as better than other conferences leads to an advantage for Florida, deserved or not, I will always be all in on that. Why? Because I support Florida and always want the best for Florida.

The idea that I would prefer Florida to have lower rankings and less advantageous bowl games simply because some people have a problem with how the SEC attempts to use that narrative to better their individual programs I find astonishing. The sole reason for supporting the ‘SEC is better’ narrative is so that Florida benefits, deserved or not. Because I always want Florida to benefit. I want Florida to benefit from any association with its conference. Just like I want Florida to benefit from bad officiating (Florida usually gets fucked by officiating, but if we got the Bama/Georgia bump, which is real, I would love to have that), I want Florida to benefit from recruits thinking SEC Florida is a better place than non-SEC conferences. I really don’t give a shit if it’s true or not. All I want is for Florida to always be in a better position versus every other SEC team, and to be in a better position than every other non-SEC team.

If the perception of the SEC being inferior benefited Florida, I would be all in on everyone thinking the SEC sucked. Benefiting Florida is the only metric I care about, and in the last two decades, it has benefited Florida that the SEC is viewed favorably. A lot of that has been ESPN stanning SEC bullshit. And intelligent fans realize a lot of that is bullshit. But as long as the bullshit benefits Florida, I am 100% behind the bullshit.

I get why Texas fans do not buy into any of this. That is rational. But during the timeframe that the SEC won 6 or 7 national championships in a row, the Big 12 did not produce two in a row. ESPN was not going on and on about how great the Big 12 was. When Florida squeaked in by the smallest of margins to play Ohio State in January 2007, the SECSECSEC thing had not yet vomited out of ESPN’s corporate mouth. Florida’s demolition of the buckeyes started the SEC is better narrative. Had the vote between Michigan and Florida in 2006 been held in 2010 it would not have been close. The SEC reputation at that point would’ve guaranteed a Florida matchup instead of backing in by 1000 of a point. The SEC reputation had become a demonstrable advantage for Florida at that point. and as a Florida fan, I want what is best for Florida. Period.

As we entered 2026, that SEC superiority thing is gone. Other than people calling into the Paul F’s Bama smooth brain show, everybody knows that it’s bullshit now. That is probably a good thing for college football. To the extent that it’s no longer good for Florida, well, that is too bad, because I only care about what is good for Florida.

I just wanted you to know why one SEC program member put up with the SEC conference loyalty concept - a concept that is foreign to Texas, and apparently rustles a lot of Jimmies.

Tl:DR if the ‘SEC is better’ thing is not deader than disco now, it should be pretty soon. If you are telling me that Texas is too proud to want to get any benefit from conference affiliation, then I respect that. This Florida Gator is far more mercenary, and will take any benefit to my program that I can get, whether deserved or not.

Based.

Some Texas fans still wear the identity of “fuck the SEC” as a badge of honor. The narrative of the SEC always being the best isn’t true, but neither is the SEC is overrated. What many here will refuse to admit is when A&M left for the SEC it was a Trojan horse to Texas in regard to recruiting. When they hit success right out of the gate and other teams like Georgia and LSU rose up with Alabama we were left chasing our tails for a little over a decade. Oklahoma was able to be the prettiest midget but as soon as they faced real competition they were destroyed.

I’m with you on collective narratives being advantageous to your program. The SEC was quickly able to capitalize on being the conference with the most fierce competition and NFL ready players. This opened the flood gates to every blue chip recruit in the nation. Kids in LA that were historically USC locks were all the sudden going to Alabama. Kids that Texas would offer on junior day back in the 2000s that were enamored by the Longhorn logo were all in on Saban or LSU.

Texas had their multi-million dollar network but was stuck in a conference with one true competitor that found itself wandering around blind and crippled losing to tiny Texas private schools and getting dominated by a redneck mullet wearing coach at Oklahoma’s JV program. Staying pat in the Big 12 was killing Texas’ program.

There is not a single other program carrying water for us (see this year’s playoff bullshit), so don’t expect us to carry water for anyone else.

The Big 12 treated us like absolute shit despite us carrying them financially, and the SEC hasn’t been any better (not suggesting we’re carrying the SEC financially). Texas looks out for Texas. Fuck everyone else.

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