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2 minutes ago, G650 said:

I'll preface this by emphasizing I'm someone who listens to Gentle Giant, Wishbone Ash and the like, the problem with early Genesis and Peter Gabriel is the shit was just half baked. They got a lot better at what they did later. It wasn't really commercial vs non commercial.

I can buy that. They're not like Rush, where they were pretty damn solid from their second album on (depending on how you feel about Caress of Steel... or even their first album). Nor Yes; "Roundabout" was 1971.

 

This sounds more like the kind of jam session I would have in my early college bands than it does something, well, good.

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Dunno, I really enjoyed “Suppers Ready” and I view it as a bit of a masterpiece. Anywho, I know my musical tastes are in the minority, but the ear wants what it wants.

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26 minutes ago, G650 said:

I'll preface this by emphasizing I'm someone who listens to Gentle Giant, Wishbone Ash and the like, the problem with early Genesis and Peter Gabriel is the shit was just half baked. They got a lot better at what they did later. It wasn't really commercial vs non commercial.

GG and Wishbone Ash are seriously underrated.  Gentle Giant “Free Hand” is a fantastic song.

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30 minutes ago, Goredho said:

GG and Wishbone Ash are seriously underrated.  Gentle Giant “Free Hand” is a fantastic song.

 

Yeah GG are my dad's all time favorite, so I got a heavy dose as a kid. 

 

Funny story, one of my best friends text me a couple of years ago, 'hey have you ever heard a band called Wishbone Ash?' My response was some along the lines of oh buddy you done fucked up now, hope you got several days on your hands to discuss lol. I texted my dad as that conversation was going on.

 

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I remember as a young teenager some guy teaching our youth group at church asserting that Genesis was a Satanic band.  I wrote him off for that, and it was the start of my growing suspicion about a lot of things we were being taught.

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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your ass. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and, uh, Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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