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  1. I don't know about how sophisticated they are. Our defense just plays dumb. Constantly giving up inside leverage, whether at the corner or safety level. Cannot figure out how to pass off routes. Simple curls aren't recognized. Late to react to RBs releasing to the flat. However, the biggest issue is not being able to generate any pass rush without bringing the house. Penix isn't some machine. The second he got pressured, like a lot of QBs, he became errant and his clock sped up. We saw that out of him all year when facing a solid pass rush. We just didn't have one.
  2. TCU last year presented a different challenge with a running QB. Duggan ran for 64 and two scores. Totallt different scenario.
  3. BurntOrange is correct. No matter where the DB is you have to force him to move his feet so you can create separation. Otherwise he will get a great jump on the ball as soon as its thrown. AD runs a soft, rounded off route here and the DB immediately breaks on it. It wouldn't have matter if he threw the ball high or low the DB was never fooled and no matter where the ball was he was going to run through AD to get it anyway. We don't need to know what the call was. No matter what AD still ran a shit route. You never do what he does here under any circumstances as a receiver. Ever. Here is a fade run vs off man with inside leverage. Just like above the route stem is run to stress the DBs inside leverage and then a quick adjustment back to the outside. It doesn't matter what scenario you are always taught to manipulate the DB so you can create sep on the break. That is literally 101 receiver training. Also, @MrBig the post about going down with the ship was for Derka. I didn't mean to quote you on it. Ignore all that. Derka called his shot on QE early and ever since Quinn turned the corner he has refused to eat crow on it.
  4. Very true, I mentally blocked out that it was a Mark Sanchez.
  5. What the hell are you talking about Derka? So you think Quinn is supposed to throw a route AD isn't running because he SEES something else they could've done that would've worked out better even though AD doesn't? How stupid a take is that? AD is the guy who has to recognize that and Quinn is the guy who has to throw it. Otherwise the ball gets airmailed out of bounds at the pylon with AD still running the original route. The fade was called. You can tell the fade was called because of the route AD is running. As a QB you throw the ball WHERE the receiver is, not where you think he should be. The ball is moving 3 times as fast as the receiver is moving. You throw it somewhere other than where he is going/expecting it and no one will be there to catch it. No one said it was the right play. I said that is WHERE you throw the ball if its a fade and your receiver is 6 inches taller than the DB. As I said above, if you are AD your route stem needs to attack the inside leverage which will give you more room to work. Then AD should've come back and got that ball at its highest point. He did none of that. This is what you do. You jumped on the "Quinn Is Trash" bandwagon early and so you are doubling down and like a good captain, going down with the ship. Since you are new to football this is how you run an end zone fade, or a fade in general. Notice the guy talking keeps talking about attacking inside leverage and not allowing yourself to drift outside because the DB will close on you, which is exactly what AD did. You will find these exact talking points on every video explaining how to run a fade no matter if its goalline, vs man, or vs zone. So you can argue with coaches now about whether or not AD ran a solid route. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong.
  6. You put up over 300 and no turnovers its time to look elsewhere. Linemen are supposed to put a guy on his back as soon as he disengages to jump up and tip a ball. Its clear they watched film and saw opportunities to tip but so has everyone else all season. QE didn't just all the sudden change the way he throws. As someone said above, their guys outplayed our guys. 1) Our D-line was once again stout against the run but horrible getting pressure. Their D-line gave up chunks of yardage but came up with 2 opportunistic strips to negate the rush yardage given up. In pass rush they consistently got pressure and didn't allow QE to hold onto the ball all day long. 2) Their secondary made plays on balls in the air a few times during the game and we made none. 3) Their receivers consistently won their 1 on 1 battles. Ours were inconsistent in that regard
  7. Close the got-damned thread!!!! Lulz
  8. The pressure rate stat is bs because it accounts for pressures as an each and not per play. What your eyes see is the truth. We have sucked at edge play for seemingly ever, and it was a big big problem all season. We had a couple plays where we got close, and a LOT of plays where he was standing back there for seemingly ever. Literally the worst guy on the planet to give time to. It was the one thing we COULD NO do. They want time. Time gives them separation. Time clears up the passing picture and lets you throw outside the hashes where balls don't get intercepted. We played right into their hands and literally played defense exactly how they would want a team to if they could draw it up for us. We compounded the problem by not playing the ball well in the air. Guy after guy panicked. No one kept their cool and used any technique to time up ball arrival. Some of the throws were down right perfect, but we also had a chance to do something a couple times and did the opposite. You can't let a QB like that play 7 on 7.
  9. If he has a brother who ends up playing there it will be even better. Announcer one-"Knigga with the tackle". Announcer two-"Which Knigga was that John?"
  10. Every announcer doing WVU games the next 4 years will be black.
  11. When you think you know something you create a whole argument on the basis of something you know but in reality is complete bullshit. For example, your description of the route AD ran. The route stem should be driven into the DB to get him to react, and then you break to the outside giving you the space you need to operate. That is receiver 101. Instead AD is drifting toward the sideline LEADING the DB to him. The DB had no guess work because AD's lazy route running told him where the throw was going to go. You see, you come on here and blame that on the QB when that is entirely on AD for picking the game winning/losing play not to put forth effort. He was playing like he didn't expect the ball to come to him. It's lazy, and its what he has been doing on and off all season so no surprise that it showed up here. Everyone has a job to do on this play. Quinn needs to throw the ball high and to the outside. AD is supposed to create separation with proper route running, and then go get the ball thrown where he has the advantage. The DB is supposed to protect against inside breaking routes by sitting with inside leverage and break on anything going outside. Guess which two did their jobs and who didn't? Now go find me any expert that says the way AD ran his route there from 13 yards out was correct. I will hang up and wait.
  12. You get to the spot and jump vertically. He got to the spot and went for the lean and pose. Look at his feet. He jumps vertically and he has plenty of room to come down in bounds. Anyone who doesn't think that has never had any decent athletic ability. AD is a player who plays hard exactly 3 or 4 plays a game and soft the rest. Lazy route running, allowing himself to physically get overwhelmed vs smaller DBs. Par for the fucking course for him and Worthy. There was nothing wrong with that throw. He simply lost the physical battle with a DB 6 inches shorter than him. Want to.
  13. You guys are some clowns clinging on to the one player who played pretty well. Nevermind the fumbling of the football. Nevermind Worthy, once again, not being able to track a ball in the air. Look at J-Whitt for an example of how to attack a 50/50 ball. Nevermind all the got-damned penalties in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Nevermind anybody on that defense being able to make a play on the damn ball in the air. Nevermind no pass rush all damn game and one of the best QBs in the game getting 4 fucking seconds to scan the field. The call was a fucking fade. You drop back and put the ball where you are supposed to and your receiver is supposed to jump up, shield out the DB, and catch the damn ball. AD didn't jump for the ball at all. Instead he tried to be cute and high point the ball while keeping a toe on the ground for the look at how ready I am for the NFL pose. Go get the damn ball bro. He is 6'4. Play like it.
  14. See you kept your mouth shut until you felt like he played bad to come on here with your bullshit. The difference between Penix and QE is we gave Penix all day to throw. Washington actually brought pressure and got home. We didn't sack Penix all day. If you want to shit on QE do it about his sidearm delivery that got batted down. Outside of that the loss is on two RBs not holding onto the football and the defense not doing a damn thing correctly on passing downs. The last throw was high and outside away from the DB. Had AD gone up for it instead of keeping his feet on the ground we are all here chest bumping. AD and Worthy have struggled all year fighting for 50/50 balls. It figures that it would be the way we went down.
  15. Or you know, your receiver can elevate and catch the ball. Like he did on the last TD, and like Ewers probably expected him to.
  16. The problem with sports nowadays is that once they get to the high school level if they want to keep playing they are likely to be forced into playing travel club sports. The other kids at the school are also playing that level so they will need that experience just to make the team. At my daughter's school freshman, JV, and Varsity kids all play club. If you don't play club you won't even make the team. Not all sports are like that but most of them are so you have a decision to make.
  17. I know a lot of the guys who are on here frown on this but considering the snail's pace this thread has moved over the years maybe we should be more open here. We have only 60 pages here despite most guys here being fathers. Some of the younger dads could learn a thing or two as well as the dads that went through it being a helpful ear. I am lucky to have had a guy who is a couple years older than me who just had his kid recruited and signed to help me along my journey. I would say speak up.
  18. I swear I am not trying to play the one up game but I have to say this. My daughter and this other kid played the same position. My kid is a big enough threat that if she is given the same opportunities she could possibly supplant this kid as a kid to watch for the MVP race. However, she did the aforementioned crap to make sure that wasn't the case. Some days the stats would go in 15 minutes after the game was over and sometimes they wouldn't get updated until the next day. Took me awhile, but I eventually realized that the days they got updated the next day were days that the other girl didn't have a good game and she didn't want the press writing about another kid leading the team to victory. My kid had 40 kills vs a pretty solid team while also hitting .400. She came home excited to see what the papers said and nothing. The papers get their info from MaxPreps/the coaches, and none of it had been updated. The game was at home so no excuses. The issue was the other girl hit under .100. Anyway, I appreciate the offer for beach. I wish my kid would play beach but she doesn't like it. It would help her game tremendously. She could use the finesse.
  19. You are damn nails on about indoor volleyball being pretty ugly, especially at schools. I know I said it upstream but we were ranked like between 6 and 10 in the state at various points of the season. As such we molly-whop just about every team we play, losing zero district games. We have 4 Outside Hitters, 2 Middle Blockers, two Right Sides, and so on. We are good enough that we can beat anyone in our district save one team with backups. So coach pulls the starters when we play them, which is good to get your loyal backups some pt. However, since she had an agenda to get one of our OH's the MVP she let her play against those softer teams to pad her stats while everyone else had to sit. The end result was her getting a ton more swings than the next kid. My daughter and her were the two rotating at OH. They played the same minutes otherwise but this kid had 485 more swings than my daughter did, all to win her an award. Meanwhile, when you funnel a ball through a single player that much when she has an off game you are out, which is what happened. We are already seeing a therapist. We were seeing one over the summer but then the schedule got weird but we are back on track now, and we couldn't agree more. Hopefully as time goes on she gets to be more like your daughter and things smooth out.
  20. You try to do the right thing as a parent. It's impossible to see the future. You can only make the best call and hope it works out. What an area was like for us and what its like now is hard to predict. These are different times with different issues. Though my daughter is seen as Black, she is actually Chinese, Black, and White. She would like to be accepted in all those communities and not just pushed into one because society says so. One of her grandpas looks like me. Her other grandpa looks almost exactly like Mr Miyagi(Pat Morita). We wish people would just accept her for who she is, and not cause her so much mental anguish because she is different.On the WC people thought she was an islander until they met her parents. Its been mainly Texas where the issues came into the picture. I know you probably won't have the same experiences, and that's a good thing. Growing up is hard enough on its own. Hope he has a wide road to navigate.
  21. 2016 is when it became acceptable again to be outwardly racist, misogynistic, and homophobic. It's an interesting conundrum that you find yourself in as a black person in Texas. You work hard to get to a place in life where you can afford to put your children everywhere that a White American can. Then the question remains should you? On one hand you want them to get the highest level of education they can as well as live in an environment that is relatively safe. On the other you are made to feel unwelcome and your child is missing out on some of the cultural foundation that they would get in a relatively black community. What we've seen is that a lot of black people start out trying the area we live in out only to move somewhere else around the age they are heading into high school. Well, we've decided we weren't running which has been rough on the kid. Here is a conversation I had with another volleyball dad friend of mine who's kid plays at the same club, but also for the school that we played at our gym. Apparently someone in the student section was calling players on the other team the N-word. Pretty embarrassing for me to have my friends being treated like that when they come to play us. We were also in the news this year for a middle school kid getting bullied through text messages by being called racial slurs. NAACP ended up getting involved. It was ugly.
  22. I used to live in Cary when I worked in the research triangle but that was before kids. You are correct that it is more mixed out there. I remember that standing out when I was there.
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